The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[Obamerican]

It is convoluted but the fake reflection only functioned as the gun for Zapruder. The real gun was lower, near his shoulder. This is proven accurate by looking at the frames immediately after the reflection falls off the passenger's head. Frame 318 is the fake reflection which I think they allowed to distract from the bleached gun that followed in 319. Notice in 320 that there's still a smidgen of white.

You're just going to keep saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what anyone says to contradict your argument.

For the record, numnutz: What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to be using?

He will repeat "itself" repeatedly. The funny part is the fact that the stupid shit he says he STOLE from other people. He should be BANNED for stealing stupid thoughts from other idiots.

 

[Crackerjack]

It is convoluted but the fake reflection only functioned as the gun for Zapruder. The real gun was lower, near his shoulder. This is proven accurate by looking at the frames immediately after the reflection falls off the passenger's head. Frame 318 is the fake reflection which I think they allowed to distract from the bleached gun that followed in 319. Notice in 320 that there's still a smidgen of white.

You're just going to keep saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what anyone says to contradict your argument.

For the record, numnutz: What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to be using?

He will repeat "itself" repeatedly. The funny part is the fact that the stupid shit he says he STOLE from other people. He should be BANNED for stealing stupid thoughts from other idiots.

I guess there's not enough stupid to go around, surprisingly.

 

[7forever]

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot Kennedy.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.

Connally turned towards Greer in his reaction to Greer braking during his second turn to shoot jfk. He may have seen the gun discharged but definitely saw it before Greer pulled it down out of sight.

 

[7forever]

The closest witnesses saw the right rear exit as does every person viewing in it frame 313.
Clint describes a massive exit that could have only been caused by that goon, Greer.

Clint Hill saw the massive hole on the right rear portion of his head.

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.
Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car. She turned toward me and I grabbed her and put her back in the back seat, crawled up on top of the back seat and lay there.


Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

The back of his head opens up at the moment of the front right impact.

FRAME 337

 

[7forever]

Clint Hill and Jackie were the closest witnesses to the exit wound immeditately after Greer shot jfk. They both saw the gaping hole on the rear.

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Warren Commission Suppressed Jackie's
Testimony On JFK's Head Wound

Court Reporter's Tape Shows
Additional Description Withheld


Dallas, TX -- August 5, 2001 -- JFK Lancer, an historical research firm reports that the Court Reporter's tape shows Jacqueline Kennedy's testimony before the Warren Commission had additional descriptions which were withheld.
Mrs. Kennedy testified in a short private session held at her home in Washington, D.C., with Chief Justice Earl Warren, Commission General Council J. Lee Rankin, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, and a court reporter in attendance. Testimony of witnesses before the Warren Commission was made public in the fall of 1964. Jacqueline Kennedy's testimony was also released containing her description of her husbands wounds which read :

"And just as I turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull and I remember it was flesh colored. I remember thinking he just looked as if he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No blood or anything."

But a second section in which she described the wounds she saw carried only the notation: (Reference to Wounds Deleted).
Although very few Americans actually read those transcripts, historians and researchers who did read them were outraged, and waged a legal battle to have the omitted testimony released. In the early 1970s, a court decision required the United States Government to disclose to the public the contents of the still classified section of Mrs. Kennedy's 1964 Warren Commission testimony. Her previously withheld statement read: Edited, link to the rest of article

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The driver shot Kennedy square in the right forehead with the bullet logically exiting the right rear. That exit wound is corroborated by 40 witnesses and my recent work showing that jfk's rear skull gaped open at the moment of front right impact. Notice the right rear missing in the autopsy pic and compare that to frame 313.

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[Crackerjack]

blah blah blah

Does posting post-mortem photos of JFK give you a chubby?

 

[7forever]

The proof was found by a youtuber who gave me the link that showed Greer's left arm crossing in the nix film. That was September, 2010. The jfk case was solved when I got this footage. The only defense was saying that his left arm didn't extend over his right shoulder but it clearly does in nix and muchmore, both being filmed across the street from Zapruder, exposing Greer's left arm. Advance to 1:09 and see the blurry footage that was enhanced a few months later. It was witnessed by several people that were posted in this thread.

jfk assassination films-orville nix - Video Dailymotion

 

[7forever]

You are clearly trolling because you lie because it is YOU who keeps making up b.s that he had a headshot from the back of the head when all the doctors said otherwise and you clearly know nothing at all about the laws of physics.The CIA had and has high powered handguns capable of that kind of force,the brain matter went back toward the limo,thats what Jackie is retrieving and landed on one of the motorcycle officers riding behind jackie.The only one ignoring things is you,you keep ignoring the FACT that the zapruder film was altered and everytime he asks you to explain why if his act was so innocent in turning around backwards pointing his left arm back towards kennedy in the unaltered nix film,you run away with your tail between your legs and refuse to comment.

As far as CIA agents toting high-powered handguns in 1963, I am not aware of it, nor is it relevant. Greer was Secret Service, not CIA. What I am aware of is the fact that Secret Service Agents do not typically carry such exotic weapons, especially those agents who drive the presidential limo.

In conclusion, I do not care a whit if Greer had his arm up his ass, the shot which hit JFK in the head was a high-powered round, fired from a high-powered rifle, and it hit JFK in the back of the head. It was DEFINITELY not fired from a handgun. I challenge you to find any ballistics expert to say that it was.


Just so we are on the same page, Greer would have had to been packing something like this in order to achieve the sort of kinetic energy presented in the Zapruder film:


http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kel[/QUOTE]according to 7 whatever there was a fake hand fake blood.
that hand cannon would be impossible to hide.[/QUOTE]

[quote="Robin, post: 735532"]I'm sorry, but this doesn't address my concern.

Your question or concerns have nothing to do with him shooting jfk, as [B]the films clearly prove that his arm movments [/B]and the obvious fakery to hide those movements [B]were responsible for the President being shot[/B]. A crime does not have to make sense for it to be true. It's true and factual because three films prove that it's true.

[B]Greer performed exactly like someone who shot a man [/B]because he passed the gun, then turned the first time to see where his target was, turned back forward, and then quickly turned back a second time to shoot the wounded President. [B]Greer's actions were indefensible and completely prove he was jfk's real assassin[/B].

 

[daws101]

blah blah blah

Does posting post-mortem photos of JFK give you a chubby?

I think you're on to something.

 

[daws101]

As far as CIA agents toting high-powered handguns in 1963, I am not aware of it, nor is it relevant. Greer was Secret Service, not CIA. What I am aware of is the fact that Secret Service Agents do not typically carry such exotic weapons, especially those agents who drive the presidential limo.

In conclusion, I do not care a whit if Greer had his arm up his ass, the shot which hit JFK in the head was a high-powered round, fired from a high-powered rifle, and it hit JFK in the back of the head. It was DEFINITELY not fired from a handgun. I challenge you to find any ballistics expert to say that it was.


Just so we are on the same page, Greer would have had to been packing something like this in order to achieve the sort of kinetic energy presented in the Zapruder film:


http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/kel[/quote]according to 7 whatever there was a fake hand fake blood.
that hand cannon would be impossible to hide.[/QUOTE]

[quote="Robin, post: 735532"]I'm sorry, but this doesn't address my concern.

Your question or concerns have nothing to do with him shooting jfk, as [B]the films clearly prove that his arm movments [/B]and the obvious fakery to hide those movements [B]were responsible for the President being shot[/B]. A crime does not have to make sense for it to be true. It's true and factual because three films prove that it's true.

[B]Greer performed exactly like someone who shot a man [/B]because he passed the gun, then turned the first time to see where his target was, turned back forward, and then quickly turned back a second time to shoot the wounded President. [B]Greer's actions were indefensible and completely prove he was jfk's real assassin[/B].[/quote][IMG]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Dawson_026/bj.gif

 

[7forever]

JOHN F. KENNEDY'S FATAL WOUNDS:
THE WITNESSES AND THE INTERPRETATIONS
FROM 1963 TO THE PRESENT
by
Gary L. Aguilar, MD
San Francisco, California, August, 1994

17) JOHN EBERSOLE, MD: was Assistant Chief of Radiology and head of the Radiology Division at Bethesda, and was the radiologist who evaluated the X-rays in close cooperation with the autopsists on the night of the autopsy. He was not called to testify before the Warren Commission. However he was called to testify by the HSCA on March 11, 1978. Ebersole's deposition was not published by the HSCA causing it to be sealed for 50 years under congressional rules. (Due to pressure, however, the transcript of his interview was released in October, 1993.) A brief wire service account appeared regarding his appearance before the HSCA claiming that he agreed with the Warren Commissions' conclusions. However, in an interview with reporter Gil Dulaney published two days before his HSCA appearance Ebersole said of the head wound, "When the body was removed from the casket there was a very obvious horrible gaping wound to the back of the head (BE:543).", and "The front of the body, except for a very slight bruise above the right eye on the forehead, was absolutely intact. It was the back of the head that was blown off." (BE:546)

In HSCA testimony recently released, Ebersole claimed, "The back of the head was missing..."(HSCA interview with Ebersole, 3-11-78, p.3), and when shown the autopsy photograph with the back of the scalp intact, Ebersole commented, "You know, my recollection is more of a gaping occipital wound than this but I can certainly not state that this is the way it looked. Again we are relying on a 15 year old recollection. But had you asked me without seeing these or seeing the pictures, you know, I would have put the wound here rather than more forward." (HSCA interview with Ebersole, 3-11-78, p. 62). Ebersole, faced with the photographs before the HSCA, said JFK's skull defect was, "More lateral. Much more lateral and superior than I remembered." (HSCA interview with Ebersole, 3-11-63, p. 63) Yet Ebersole claimed that "I had the opportunity (to examine the back of JFK's head while positioning the head for X-rays) (HSCA Ebersole interview, 3-11-78, p. 64). Later Ebersole said, "...perhaps about 12:30 (am) a large fragment of the occipital bone was received from Dallas and at Dr. Finck's request I X-rayed these (sic)...". As Lifton observed about Ebersole's HSCA enlightenment, "When Ebersole met with Art Smith on March 28, and of course after his HSCA interview, he said: 'The back portion of the head...the back part of the head, was reasonably intact.' Ebersole claimed that Dulaney had misquoted him. Smith asked: "That was a misquote?" Ebersole: "Yes, Misquoted. I, really, ah, I may have said that--what I meant was, the side." David Lifton had Dulaney read a verbatim transcript of the Ebersole interview. Dulaney again quoted Ebersole describing the head wound as "a very obvious horrible gaping wound at the back of the head..." (BE:546) (Emphasis added.) Ebersole's reliability has also been questioned as he also claimed that the neck wound upon arrival at Bethesda was sutured closed. Ebersole told this to both Dulaney and to Art Smith (BE:543).

If, as has been argued, the error rate in the determination of entrance from exit in single, perforating wounds is 37% among emergency physicians (Randall T. Clinicians' forensic interpretations of fatal gunshot wounds often miss the mark. JAMA. 1993; 269:2058- 2061), and, accepting for the sake of argument that the determining of the location of a skull defect is as troublesome as determining entrance from exit in perforating bullet wounds (it should not be, of course), the likelihood of error by 44 witnesses from two facilities is 1 divided by 2 to the 44th power, or 1 in 4,294,967,296. The likelihood that 44 of 44 erroneous witnesses would agree (excepting Giesecke and Salyer) among themselves to the same "wrong" location is considerably less than 1 divided by 2 to the 44th power. Critics of the Warren Commission's conclusions are chary to embrace such odds and are troubled that loyalists seem to be unaware of this problem.

JFK Wound Witnesses - (ag6)

 

[daws101]

You're just going to keep saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what anyone says to contradict your argument.

For the record, numnutz: What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to be using?

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE...

in the real world you 7 whatever would have to stop plagiarizing

and have acual proof of your delusions ,as of now you have zero proof of anything.

 

[7forever]

You're just going to keep saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what anyone says to contradict your argument.

For the record, numnutz: What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to be using?

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

 

[7forever]

You're just going to keep saying the same thing over and over, regardless of what anyone says to contradict your argument.

For the record, numnutz: What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to be using?

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE...

in the real world you 7 whatever would have to stop plagiarizing

and have acual proof of your delusions ,as of now you have zero proof of anything.

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

 

[daws101]

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE...

in the real world you 7 whatever would have to stop plagiarizing

and have acual proof of your delusions ,as of now you have zero proof of anything.

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

the objects you claim to see are reflections and hot spots, because it's an 8mm camera with a slow frame rate and an aperture on the wrong setting for those lighting conditions,
as to the alleged fake blood, hand and other illusionary objects how were they done?
prosthetic makeup? double exposure? Matt painting? or a multiple exposer re shoot?

it's not enough to claim those things are fake, you have to have actual evidence.
debunked or made up eye/ ear witness testimony without any hard evidence to back it up is meaningless.

 

[SigTurner]

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered?

That is not what I asked you.

Now, pull yourself together and answer the question:

What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to have used to shoot JFK in the head?

I am not interested in "bleached objects in the Zapruder film" or any other evasive responses.

Either answer the question or get lost.

 

[7forever]

in the real world you 7 whatever would have to stop plagiarizing

and have acual proof of your delusions ,as of now you have zero proof of anything.

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered? THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

the objects you claim to see are reflections and hot spots, because it's an 8mm camera with a slow frame rate and an aperture on the wrong setting for those lighting conditions,
as to the alleged fake blood, hand and other illusionary objects how were they done?
prosthetic makeup? double exposure? Matt painting? or a multiple exposer re shoot?

it's not enough to claim those things are fake, you have to have actual evidence.
debunked or made up eye/ ear witness testimony without any hard evidence to back it up is meaningless.

Nah. 319 is the same bleached object that Greer passed before shoot Kennedy. That was the gun that could not be taken out, apparently.

 

[7forever]

In the real world you'd have to explain why there's a bleached object in frame 319. If it wasn't a gun then why was it covered?

That is not what I asked you.

Now, pull yourself together and answer the question:

What sort of weapon do you believe Greer to have used to shoot JFK in the head?

I am not interested in "bleached objects in the Zapruder film" or any other evasive responses.

Either answer the question or get lost.

That is what I asked you.

Now, pull yourself together and answer the question:

If Greer didn't shoot jfk then why did he pass a covered object before the shot and that same object was seen magically going to floor after the shot?

I am interested in "bleached objects in the Zapruder film" but not interested in your blabbering nonsense.

Either answer the evidence or fuckoff.

 

[7forever]

I saw it the first time I viewed the old blurry clip because I knew what to look for. The enhanced version makes it very clear. Greer's right shoulder rotates to the right in both other films when he shot jfk. That proves Zapruder was altered to hide those movements. The WWW solved this case, and more directly, youtube. The untruthers simply ignored that Greer had both hands off the wheel and skipped to the fake hand excuse.

1:09
jfk assassination films-orville nix - Video Dailymotion

 

[candycorn]

Any word yet on why no one in the car was deafened by the shot happening inches away from their ears? Hell, any word yet on why nobody in the car saw it?

No?

Carry on.