The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[PredFan]

If the driver shot Kennedy and Connally, why doesn't any of the films show him shooting Connally?

 

[PredFan]

Even if I believed you that Connally was kept quiet by threats and payment, there was Jackie Kennedy and two others in the car as well. It isn't credible that all of th would have been kept quiet all this time.

And you haven't shown an ounce of the "tons" of evidence. All you have shown is a few seconds if a tape that is easily debunked. Sorry, you have not made your case.

I proved Greer's shot over four years ago by showing the nix film close-up. You have no challenge to any facts I've posted and will never pose one. I only show a few seconds of tape because that's all it takes to show Greer shooting jfk. Don't forget the nix and muchmore films which contradict that Greer's left arm was not motioning back during the shooting sequence.

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

 

[7forever]

I proved Greer's shot over four years ago by showing the nix film close-up. You have no challenge to any facts I've posted and will never pose one. I only show a few seconds of tape because that's all it takes to show Greer shooting jfk. Don't forget the nix and muchmore films which contradict that Greer's left arm was not motioning back during the shooting sequence.

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.
2. I've challenged everything, I'm challenging you now.
3. No, they don't. I've shown you why they don't. I challenged them and proved otherwise.
4. Greer's arm might be moving back. It's hard to tell. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. So it was moving back? So what?

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

4. Greer's left arm was moving back, but not in the Zapruder film. It's not hard to tell at all. Why would be it be altered in the most popular film?

Wait what? Aren't you talking about the Zapruder film? That's the clip you showed. What makes you think that the other one wasn't faked? Likely, the Zapruder film is the accurate one and the other one is fake.
That makes a lot more sense than to believe that the driver shot Kennedy and Connally without anyone in the car seeing it.

Some of the films were altered and that's probably the best argument for deniers, but many eyewitnesses talk about a shot in the limo. Why was Greer passing a mystery object? Why did the government make the object a white blob?

 

[PredFan]

If you look closely at Kennedy, his head is tilted down and turned slightly toward Jackie. That would leave an exit wound out of the right front if he was shot from behind.

I'm not sure what you're getting at? His face was clear according to all the evidence, except the x-rays.

The back of his head was blown off. Penn and idiot had jfk's face wiped out. Real evidence must always be ignored to push a false conclusion.

Look at the autopsy photo you just provided. There is the exit wound exactly where I said it would be. JFK's head was down and to the left toward Jackie. It would leave the exit wound exactly there. That is where the "red blob" came from.

The red blob is fake and was on the right forehead. I drew a line on the right rear where the exit wound was and always will be.

It's fake is it? They had that kind of technology back in the early sixties did they? Did they also fake the exit wound on the right upper forehead in the autopsy?

The rear exit wound isn't faked in frame 313, but it doesn't appear in many other frames. There was an entrance wound in the area of the red blob, no large exit. The AR is consistent with no exit there.

Actually the opposite is true. The coroner testified that the bullet traveled from back to front.

 

[7forever]

I proved Greer's shot over four years ago by showing the nix film close-up. You have no challenge to any facts I've posted and will never pose one. I only show a few seconds of tape because that's all it takes to show Greer shooting jfk. Don't forget the nix and muchmore films which contradict that Greer's left arm was not motioning back during the shooting sequence.

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

 

[7forever]

I'm not sure what you're getting at? His face was clear according to all the evidence, except the x-rays.

The back of his head was blown off. Penn and idiot had jfk's face wiped out. Real evidence must always be ignored to push a false conclusion.

Look at the autopsy photo you just provided. There is the exit wound exactly where I said it would be. JFK's head was down and to the left toward Jackie. It would leave the exit wound exactly there. That is where the "red blob" came from.

The red blob is fake and was on the right forehead. I drew a line on the right rear where the exit wound was and always will be.

It's fake is it? They had that kind of technology back in the early sixties did they? Did they also fake the exit wound on the right upper forehead in the autopsy?

The rear exit wound isn't faked in frame 313, but it doesn't appear in many other frames. There was an entrance wound in the area of the red blob, no large exit. The AR is consistent with no exit there.

Actually the opposite is true. The coroner testified that the bullet traveled from back to front.

There is no sustainable evidence of that. That's your problem. You have to make the case because those guys are dead.

 

[PredFan]

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.
2. I've challenged everything, I'm challenging you now.
3. No, they don't. I've shown you why they don't. I challenged them and proved otherwise.
4. Greer's arm might be moving back. It's hard to tell. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. So it was moving back? So what?

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

4. Greer's left arm was moving back, but not in the Zapruder film. It's not hard to tell at all. Why would be it be altered in the most popular film?

Wait what? Aren't you talking about the Zapruder film? That's the clip you showed. What makes you think that the other one wasn't faked? Likely, the Zapruder film is the accurate one and the other one is fake.
That makes a lot more sense than to believe that the driver shot Kennedy and Connally without anyone in the car seeing it.

Some of the films were altered and that's probably the best argument for deniers, but many eyewitnesses talk about a shot in the limo. Why was Greer passing a mystery object? Why did the government make the object a white blob?

It doesn't matter what eyewitnesses say. Other than the driver and Kennedy, the four other people in the car did not witness the shot coming from the car.

Why do the films not show the driver shooting Connaly? Who shot Connally and why?

 

[7forever]

I'm not sure what you're getting at? His face was clear according to all the evidence, except the x-rays.

The back of his head was blown off. Penn and idiot had jfk's face wiped out. Real evidence must always be ignored to push a false conclusion.

Look at the autopsy photo you just provided. There is the exit wound exactly where I said it would be. JFK's head was down and to the left toward Jackie. It would leave the exit wound exactly there. That is where the "red blob" came from.

The red blob is fake and was on the right forehead. I drew a line on the right rear where the exit wound was and always will be.

It's fake is it? They had that kind of technology back in the early sixties did they? Did they also fake the exit wound on the right upper forehead in the autopsy?

The rear exit wound isn't faked in frame 313, but it doesn't appear in many other frames. There was an entrance wound in the area of the red blob, no large exit. The AR is consistent with no exit there.

Actually the opposite is true. The coroner testified that the bullet traveled from back to front.

Are you claiming that you can show a bullet's entry into the rear in frames 312-313?

 

[7forever]

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.
2. I've challenged everything, I'm challenging you now.
3. No, they don't. I've shown you why they don't. I challenged them and proved otherwise.
4. Greer's arm might be moving back. It's hard to tell. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. So it was moving back? So what?

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

4. Greer's left arm was moving back, but not in the Zapruder film. It's not hard to tell at all. Why would be it be altered in the most popular film?

Wait what? Aren't you talking about the Zapruder film? That's the clip you showed. What makes you think that the other one wasn't faked? Likely, the Zapruder film is the accurate one and the other one is fake.
That makes a lot more sense than to believe that the driver shot Kennedy and Connally without anyone in the car seeing it.

Some of the films were altered and that's probably the best argument for deniers, but many eyewitnesses talk about a shot in the limo. Why was Greer passing a mystery object? Why did the government make the object a white blob?

It doesn't matter what eyewitnesses say. Other than the driver and Kennedy, the four other people in the car did not witness the shot coming from the car.

Why do the films not show the driver shooting Connaly? Who shot Connally and why?

Says a liar and denier of simple facts. What matters if that you can't refute anything I'm posting. You are simply lying and avoiding the issues. Because he shot jfk one time and that's it.

 

[PredFan]

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

I am not claiming anything. I'm asking so what? What makes you think he was passing anything?

 

[7forever]

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

I am not claiming anything. I'm asking so what? What makes you think he was passing anything?

So, you don't care that the driver was passing an object right before the shot and some eyewitnesses claimed a shot was fired the limo? Is that what you're saying?

 

[PredFan]

Look at the autopsy photo you just provided. There is the exit wound exactly where I said it would be. JFK's head was down and to the left toward Jackie. It would leave the exit wound exactly there. That is where the "red blob" came from.

The red blob is fake and was on the right forehead. I drew a line on the right rear where the exit wound was and always will be.

It's fake is it? They had that kind of technology back in the early sixties did they? Did they also fake the exit wound on the right upper forehead in the autopsy?

The rear exit wound isn't faked in frame 313, but it doesn't appear in many other frames. There was an entrance wound in the area of the red blob, no large exit. The AR is consistent with no exit there.

Actually the opposite is true. The coroner testified that the bullet traveled from back to front.

There is no sustainable evidence of that. That's your problem. You have to make the case because those guys are dead.

Are you saying that the coroner wasn't interviewed? That he didn't testify? I don't have the details but I'm pretty sure the investigators questioned him under oath.

 

[PredFan]

1. Your link proved nothing.
2. I've challenged everything, I'm challenging you now.
3. No, they don't. I've shown you why they don't. I challenged them and proved otherwise.
4. Greer's arm might be moving back. It's hard to tell. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. So it was moving back? So what?

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

4. Greer's left arm was moving back, but not in the Zapruder film. It's not hard to tell at all. Why would be it be altered in the most popular film?

Wait what? Aren't you talking about the Zapruder film? That's the clip you showed. What makes you think that the other one wasn't faked? Likely, the Zapruder film is the accurate one and the other one is fake.
That makes a lot more sense than to believe that the driver shot Kennedy and Connally without anyone in the car seeing it.

Some of the films were altered and that's probably the best argument for deniers, but many eyewitnesses talk about a shot in the limo. Why was Greer passing a mystery object? Why did the government make the object a white blob?

It doesn't matter what eyewitnesses say. Other than the driver and Kennedy, the four other people in the car did not witness the shot coming from the car.

Why do the films not show the driver shooting Connaly? Who shot Connally and why?

Says a liar and denier of simple facts. What matters if that you can't refute anything I'm posting. You are simply lying and avoiding the issues. Because he shot jfk one time and that's it.

Ok, I'm done. You cannot discuss without insulting me. Probably because you are getting your ass handed to you. Good bye, I'm done.

 

[7forever]

4. Greer's left arm was moving back, but not in the Zapruder film. It's not hard to tell at all. Why would be it be altered in the most popular film?

Wait what? Aren't you talking about the Zapruder film? That's the clip you showed. What makes you think that the other one wasn't faked? Likely, the Zapruder film is the accurate one and the other one is fake.
That makes a lot more sense than to believe that the driver shot Kennedy and Connally without anyone in the car seeing it.

Some of the films were altered and that's probably the best argument for deniers, but many eyewitnesses talk about a shot in the limo. Why was Greer passing a mystery object? Why did the government make the object a white blob?

It doesn't matter what eyewitnesses say. Other than the driver and Kennedy, the four other people in the car did not witness the shot coming from the car.

Why do the films not show the driver shooting Connaly? Who shot Connally and why?

Says a liar and denier of simple facts. What matters if that you can't refute anything I'm posting. You are simply lying and avoiding the issues. Because he shot jfk one time and that's it.

Ok, I'm done. You cannot discuss without insulting me. Probably because you are getting your ass handed to you. Good bye, I'm done.

You would agree that the stink of gunpowder near the car would indicate a shot was fired near jfk, correct?

According to Gary Mack the wind was blowing about 15 mph (west to the east) into the motorcade. Greer's close range shot completely supports these awesome accounts of gunpowder right near the limo and debunks the fatal shot from being 265 feet behind (east of) the limo.

From "Murder From Within" on the gunpowder "nose witnesses:" The Smell of Gunpowder in Dealey Plaza - from "Murder From Within" Wind Speed & Direction - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum

***Motorcycle escort officer Billy J. Martin, riding one-half car length from the left rear fender of the Presidential limousine, recalled, “You could smell the gunpowder… you knew he wasn’t far away. When you’re that close, you can smell the powder burning. Why you—you’ve got to be pretty close to them… you could smell the gunpowder… right there in the street.”63 (Figure 3-7) “Nose” witnesses Sen. Ralph Yarborough rode in the second car behind the limousine. He smelled gunpowder in the street64 and said it clung to the car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital.65 He later commented, “. . . you don’t smell gunpowder unless you’re shooting at something up wind and it blows it back in your face…”65-a As noted, the motorcade headed into a breeze—photographs show bystanders’ skirts billowing in the wind. At Parkland Hospital Yarborough told reporters “the third shot may have been a Secret Service man returning fire”.65-b

 

[daws101]

Look, I'm attempting to have a civil discussion here, remember that when I say this:

You are trying to convince us that the driver shot Kennedy and Connelly, and then put fake red stuff (paint or ink) on his face, all without Jackie Kennedy, or anyone else in the car witnessing it. Are you really trying to make us believe that?

I'm just posting evidence, not really trying to convince anyone of anything. The hole on the rear is visible in the infamous frame 313. I first noticed that over four years ago. What does the red blob represent to you, if you believe it's authentic?

Blood and tissue.

That's vague, at best. It is supposed to represent an exit wound. I will repeat it a second time, if you didn't get it the first. The blob had to start there because the bullet's impact was in that location. The blob then moved to the right side and changed size, color, and shape. In other words, if the official story were correct the exit wound would not have been in the right front as is clearly the case in Zapruder.

If you look closely at Kennedy, his head is tilted down and turned slightly toward Jackie. That would leave an exit wound out of the right front if he was shot from behind.

I'm not sure what you're getting at? His face was clear according to all the evidence, except the x-rays.

The back of his head was blown off. Penn and idiot had jfk's face wiped out. Real evidence must always be ignored to push a false conclusion.

Hey shit head they' also debunked all the silly shit you've posted.

 

[daws101]

Calm down. Let's keep this civil.

1. You never proved Greet's shit and you still haven't. You are trying, but you haven't yet.
2. I have chlenged the only fact you have presented.
3. Your tape does not show Greer shooting JFK. All it shows is an impact with Kennedy's head. Nothing more.
4. Who says that Greer's arm wasn't moving back? So what if it was? That doesn't mean he shot JFK.

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

No he was not it's a fact not a claim.
your shit is all speculation it's the same shit you've been doing forever.

 

[7forever]

1. I didn't have to try. I was given the nix link years ago and that proved it.
2. You have challenged nothing. Show one example.
3. Three films assist in proving Greer's. Go back through this thread and quote and challenge anything you wish.
4. Are you claiming that Greer's arm is motioning back in Zapruder?

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

No he was not it's a fact not a claim.
your shit is all speculation it's the same shit you've been doing forever.

I made conclusions throughout and none of it has been challenged. You can make excuses, but that's for losers who are trying. You don't even rise to that level. You are a jackass.

 

[daws101]

1. Your link proved nothing.

Also, the "shit" comment in that previous response from me was a typo.

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

No he was not it's a fact not a claim.
your shit is all speculation it's the same shit you've been doing forever.

I made conclusions throughout and none of it has been challenged. You can make excuses, but that's for losers who are trying. You don't even rise to that level. You are a jackass.

You made false conclusions , based on a intentional misrepresentation of the evidence. Why? Because you are mentally unstable.
asshole.

 

[7forever]

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

No he was not it's a fact not a claim.
your shit is all speculation it's the same shit you've been doing forever.

I made conclusions throughout and none of it has been challenged. You can make excuses, but that's for losers who are trying. You don't even rise to that level. You are a jackass.

You made false conclusions , based on a intentional misrepresentation of the evidence. .

Provide one example you pathetic ****.

 

[7forever]

Why would Greer be passing an object with BOTH hands off the wheel four seconds before the shot?

I don't know why. What makes you think he was passing anything?

Are you claiming that Greer was NOT passing anything around frames 241? Are you claiming that his hands were on the wheel?

No he was not it's a fact not a claim.
your shit is all speculation it's the same shit you've been doing forever.

I made conclusions throughout and none of it has been challenged. You can make excuses, but that's for losers who are trying. You don't even rise to that level. You are a jackass.

You made false conclusions , based on a intentional misrepresentation of the evidence. Why? Because you are mentally unstable.
asshole.

You made false conclusions, based on a intentional misrepresentation of the evidence. Why? Because you are a POS. Everyone knows that Oswald didn't shoot jfk in the head, you coward.