Hi 9/11: I think it hurts the credibility of arguments to argue "absolute YES to all that one side says and absolutely NOT to anything otherwise." Especially when sides ATTACK each other's motives which clouds the arguments on both sides where it looks all political.
Has there even been a coming together of ALL advocates on both sides who WERE willing to form a consensus (and leave out people who just want to EXCLUDE the other side).
If all those historians with CREDIBLE intent and NOT just political got together from both sides, and sorted through the material to distinguish fact, fiction and possible fabrication,
then I might believe THOSE results.
Oswald Innocence Campaign: Home
If you are willing to read through Vincent Bugliosi's book and work with other historians to pick apart arguments on both sides, discarding or categorizing everything as either "agree fact, agreed opinion, disputed fact, disputed opinion, agreed as false, disputed as fabrication" etc. I would support that for JFK/Oswald's case and also for 9/11.
But it cannot be twisted or tainted by anyone with onesided agenda, to exclude others while excusing their own unproven information.
It would have to be based on including all viewpoints, then assessing all points and agreeing what is established or not universally.
That other website lists a lot of historians.
If they are willing to meet with Vincent Bugliosi, and work out all conflicts to reach a consensus, I would trust that among people whose intent is to resolve the issues regardless what the end conclusion is or isn't; it cannot be based on political motive, but all people can participate provided the established agreed truth is the deciding criteria.
I am happy to order and send you the book, you can consider this, and I will support you in writing a petition to Bugliosi and all historians to form a consortium for the purpose of consensus; people with only objections or one-sided agenda can give input, but only people who are consensus-based and commit to resolving all objections should be in the decision.
If this could be agreed upon, I would ask leaders of the Green party to facilitate using their consensus model, with the rule that anyone making objections must be open to resolving or correcting
the issue causing the objection; there cannot be just insistence on objection or exclusion without correcting the problem to keep the process based on inclusion and consensus of all people and points,
or else the process fails every time.
Thanks, I have never been able to shake the gut feeling
that other people were involved besides Oswald.
Maybe it's just my disbelief that a single person can pull that off.
I've seen what it takes to get things done less complicated than this,
and it takes more than one person.
Sorry for this thread, I went back and reviewed the photos and film footage.
It just breaks my heart, and I pray that people who grieve for our nation
and govt can find healing and unity and we can move forward to a better stage.
These stages we have to go through, I just have to remember that all nations
and generations suffer war and violence until we can rise to a higher level that
no longer requires that.
Just heartbreaking and grievous to me.
Not only is there DOZENS of evidence that there wwre multuple shooters,but there is ZERO evidence oswald was involved as well. see the people that say there was a conspiracy,they dont have to try and prove it,there is way too many facts like the ones i mentioned that prove it.Its the job of the magic bulle theorists to try and prove oswald did it and they have zero evidence to prove it.In an honest court of law,he would have been aqquited in a heartbeat. Here is why.1..nobody has ever been able to duplicate his miracolous feat of running clear across the 6th floor and down the steps in under 90 seconds.Investigaters tried it,none of them could do it.
2.the first rifle they found was a mauser which looks NOTHING like a mannlicher carcano rifle.the mauser disapearred and was never seen again.
3.no marksmen has ever been able to duplicte oswalds feat.when they tried to duplicate it in 1967,they opened the window up the entire way not patially open as seen in the photos.they also cut down the tress as well because it was blocking the view of their shots and they practiced on NON MOVING TARGETS.
4.nitrate tests on oswalds cheeks tested negative proving he never could have fired the rifle.
5.oswalds palm print did not show up on the rifle until two days later after the FBI had custody of the rifle,enough time to easily lift the print.
6.photos ttaken seconds before,during,and after the shooting show nobody in the window.
7.people say he would have been back a ways from the window to take the shot but if that was so,you would see a puff of smoke in the phtoe like witnesses saw behind the picket fence and you would see some kind of figure as well and a muzzle flash that witnesses ALSO saw behind the picket fence,you dont see ANY of those things in the photo.
8.oswald is innocent.there is zero evidence he was involved.
