Zone1 The issue of abortion for the Christian regarding politics

[Chuz Life]

That’s what we are disagreeing on. Punishment.

Then we are back to me wanting our laws to be consistent.

 

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Then we are back to me wanting our laws to be consistent.

We are back to you wanting an eye for an eye.

 

[Foxfyre]

I think that many think they are Christians, but in reality, they are democrats before they are Christians.

They simply believe the democrat party more than they do the Bible or the church, but never surrender their "get into heaven free" card by staying a member of their church in which they probably never attend.

But we will see what God has to say about all that.

I do not find anything in the Bible that specifically addresses abortion. Only passages that confirm my belief that the human being developing in the womb is no less human or no less precious than the ones who live and breathe outside the womb.

While I do believe leftists probably are more often less into honest reality than those on the right, those on the right can be just as indifferent to actual truth and facts if it is something they really want to believe.

That doesn't affect anybody's Christian status in my opinion. Just their ability and willingness to seek truth over sociopolitics and propaganda.

 

[Chuz Life]

We are back to you wanting an eye for an eye.

Is that how you see our current laws and punishment for homicides, manslaughter, murder? As "eye for an eye?"

 

[Votto]

I do not find anything in the Bible that specifically addresses abortion. Only passages that confirm my belief that the human being developing in the womb is no less human or no less precious than the ones who live and breath outside the womb.

While I do believe leftists probably are more often less into honest reality than those on the right, those on the right can be just as indifferent to actual truth and facts if it is something they really want to believe.

That doesn't affect anybody's Christian status in my opinion. Just their ability and willingness to seek truth over sociopolitics and propaganda.

It is infinitely difficult to justify abortion from a religious perspective than it is a secular one.

Secular types just think human beings are glorified animals, and you see how human beings treat and value animals. They lock them in zoos, use them as beasts of burden, or kill and eat them.

But the Bible says human beings are different. They alone are made in the image of God.

Psalm 139:13-14​

“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.” – Psalm 139:13-14

Sometimes I don't know what is worse. Is it worse watching the Left murder innocent human life or watching them mutilate the genitals of children?

Is it mental illness or just flat-out wickedness?

 

[Votto]

Is that how you see our current laws and punishment for homicides, manslaughter, murder? As "eye for an eye?"

No, it's more like if you are a MAGA type you belong in jail for life.

Everybody else should be set free.

 

[rightwinger]

I recently started a thread about how Christians could support the DNC since the DNC, not only supports abortion, but wants taxpayers to pay for it.

Democrats support availability of abortion while Christians look to ban it as well as punishing any mother who wants prenatal care, birth care, child support

 

[Votto]

Democrats support availability of abortion while Christians look to ban it as well as punishing any mother who wants prenatal care, birth care, child support

The whole issue is the sanctity of human life

Democrats don't care.

In fact, the majority have abortions for financial reasons.

And as we all know, the root of all evil is from the love of money.

It is no different than when Canaanites sacrificed their babies to the god Molech for such things as better crops or victory at war.

Then the Hebrews gradually adopted their ways as they disregarded their God, much like Christians voting for democrats today.

People don't change.

 

[rightwinger]

The whole issue is the sanctity of human life

Democrats don't care.

If Conservaties value the sanctity of human life then value children who are born

Don’t punish mothers who keep their children

Embrace Welfare

 

[Votto]

If Conservaties value the sanctity of human life then value children who are born

Don’t punish mothers who keep their children

Embrace Welfare

Why then have there been more black abortions than births in New York City where the black mothers have access to welfare?

Not sure what your point is.

 

[rightwinger]

Why then have there been more black abortions than births in New York City where the black mothers have access to welfare?

Not sure what your point is.

Don’t tell me that bullshit that you value black children while you call black women ….Welfare Queens

 

[Votto]

Don’t tell me that bullshit that you value black children while you call black women ….Welfare Queens

So, you can't answer the question

As I thought.

 

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Is that how you see our current laws and punishment for homicides, manslaughter, murder? As "eye for an eye?"

Again… never before has abortion been adjudicated as murder. Why do you suppose that is?

But hey, if that’s your position then that’s your position.

 

[Votto]

Again… never before has abortion been adjudicated as murder. Why do you suppose that is?

But hey, if that’s your position then that’s your position.

Sure there has been

Legal expert weighs in on manslaughter charge in Hoover shooting that killed unborn child​

Legal expert weighs in on manslaughter charge in Hoover shooting that killed unborn child

In cases like this, there is a legal gray area between intent and negligence—and that difference can significantly impact the outcome at trial.

www.wbrc.com

 

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Sure there has been

Legal expert weighs in on manslaughter charge in Hoover shooting that killed unborn child​

Legal expert weighs in on manslaughter charge in Hoover shooting that killed unborn child

In cases like this, there is a legal gray area between intent and negligence—and that difference can significantly impact the outcome at trial.

www.wbrc.com

Not exactly apples to apples to abortion.

 

[Votto]

Not exactly apples to apples to abortion.

The state also at one time said that a black person also does not have the same rights as a white person. You could murder your slaves, and it would be Ok.

And I care why again what the state has to say about such things again?

The state can't even tell me what a woman is, so why would I care what they have to say about when a human being becomes human after conception?

 

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The state also at one time said that a black person also does not have the same rights as a white person. You could murder your slaves, and it would be Ok.

And I care why again what the state has to say about such things again?

The state can't even tell me what a woman is, so why would I care what they have to say about when a human being becomes human after conception?

I’m quite familiar with Dred Scott and I’m quite aware that at conception a new genetically distinct human being has come into existence. One that has never existed before and will never exist again. Just as I am quite aware that abortion ends a human life.

I am also aware that in this country abortion has never been punished like murder.

 

[Chuz Life]

Again… never before has abortion been adjudicated as murder. Why do you suppose that is?

But hey, if that’s your position then that’s your position.

Do you agree that an abortion is a homicide of a child?

 

[Chuz Life]

I’m quite familiar with Dred Scott and I’m quite aware that at conception a new genetically distinct human being has come into existence. One that has never existed before and will never exist again. Just as I am quite aware that abortion ends a human life.

I am also aware that in this country abortion has never been punished like murder.

Slavery was never punished either. Until it became punishable.

 

[rightwinger]

So, you can't answer the question

As I thought.

You got your answer
You just do t like it