The irony of the abortion issue.

[HeyNorm]

The human fetus is availed the same rights as a born human until the right is superseded by the only person in nature who must assume the risks of giving birth.

If a pregnant woman decides to not give birth by terminating her own pregnancy, society has no interest in preventing her from doing so. When she decides to terminate it is none of societies’ business.

And blacks should not have rights unless the master gives them to them, right Jim Crow?

 

[HeyNorm]

So how many women dying because of these draconian anti-abortion laws is acceptable?

Once we have draconian laws we will let you know.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Are you saying people can't be wrong?

jbander clxix reply to 168: Jesus in no way would be a MAGA. jbndr 241008 VtoNtr00169

Frankenstein clxxi reply to 169: Really would Jesus support the satanic sacrament of abortion, frnknstn 241009 tpNtr00171

Jesus was Jewish so I can accept as Truth that Jesus walked upon Earth as a man who believed that His Father breathes spiritual life into the Human Fetus sliding out of the birth canal at the moment of birth or first breath.

 

[Frankenstein]

jbander clxix reply to 168: Jesus in no way would be a MAGA. jbndr 241008 VtoNtr00169

Frankenstein clxxi reply to 169: Really would Jesus support the satanic sacrament of abortion, frnknstn 241009 tpNtr00171

Jesus was Jewish so I can accept as Truth that Jesus walked upon Earth as a man who believed that His Father breathes spiritual life into the Human Fetus sliding out of the birth canal at the moment of birth or first breath.

Then you know nothing!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

And blacks should not have rights unless the master gives them to them, right Jim Crow?

No, you are a liar, Blacks right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness are endowed by our Creator; same as Whites,

 

[Lesh]

I would think you would support a man's right to choose. To have freedom over his body and for his reproductive rights.....

That’s about as backwards an argument as you could make

But you’re a troll so

 

[Lesh]

Does it have to be abortion on demand for any reason whatsoever or no abortion at all or can we have a nuanced law that accounts for a very complicated issue. If we have to choose one or the other it would seem to me that no abortion saves exponentially more people so that would be the logical choice. But I know it's a religious decision for you so...

How about you just mind your own damn business and let women and their doctors figure it out.

Leave big government out of it

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Then you know nothing!

Are you an Evangelical Christian?

This is coming from Christianity not that long ago:

if you truly want an answer to your question that is based on truth See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202. for more of the following:

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.​

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ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.​

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x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)​

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xi. That assessment informs that even evangelical leaders were still reading their “Holy Bible” and attempting to follow the teachings of their “unerring god” prior to becoming agents of the Catholic Church in America.​

 

[Arlette]

The abortion issue is a political liability for the conholes. The conhole position on abortion tells America that the GOP doesn't belong in the 21st century. It's a party that's stuck in the past. A party that can't keep up gets voted out.

 

[Frankenstein]

Are you an Evangelical Christian?

This is coming from Christianity not that long ago:

if you truly want an answer to your question that is based on truth See nfbw 241018 Vrftma01202. for more of the following:

viii. According to the Christian’s “Holy Bible,” and the unerring word of the Christian’s almighty god, there is no “living being” until it takes “the breath of life.” That concept is repeated throughout the Christian bible. And, prior to the Heritage Foundation’s embrace of the Vatican encyclical on regulating women, one of the “most famous Christian fundamentalists of the 20th Century” followed the immutable word of his biblical god on when life begins. It was never at the moment of conception. It was and still is after a fetus leaves the womb and breathes of its own accord.​

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ix. The Southern Baptist Convention’s president at the time of the Roe ruling, Dallas First Baptist Church preacher W. A. Criswell, celebrated the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling by taking the time to write that he was pleased.​

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x. “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.” (author bold)​

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xi. That assessment informs that even evangelical leaders were still reading their “Holy Bible” and attempting to follow the teachings of their “unerring god” prior to becoming agents of the Catholic Church in America.​

Science tells us that human life begins at the time of conception. From the moment fertilization takes place, the child’s genetic makeup is already complete. Its gender has already been determined, along with its height and hair, eye and skin color. The only thing the embryo needs to become a fully-functioning being is the time to grow and develop.

More importantly, God reveals to us in His Word that not only does life begin at conception, but He knows who we are even before then (Jeremiah 1:5). King David said this about God’s role in our conception: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb . . . your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13, 16).

Society continually seeks to devalue the lives of the unborn, creating its own definitions of humanity based on distorted views of morality. But the undeniable fact is that life begins at creation, and a human is created as soon as he or she is conceived. God is present at our creation; He is, in fact, our Creator. Our value as human beings created in His image is conceived even before we are.

 

[HeyNorm]

No, you are a liar, Blacks right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness are endowed by our Creator; same as Whites,

And fetuses

 

[HeyNorm]

Science tells us that human life begins at the time of conception. From the moment fertilization takes place, the child’s genetic makeup is already complete. Its gender has already been determined, along with its height and hair, eye and skin color. The only thing the embryo needs to become a fully-functioning being is the time to grow and develop.

More importantly, God reveals to us in His Word that not only does life begin at conception, but He knows who we are even before then (Jeremiah 1:5). King David said this about God’s role in our conception: "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb . . . your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13, 16).

Society continually seeks to devalue the lives of the unborn, creating its own definitions of humanity based on distorted views of morality. But the undeniable fact is that life begins at creation, and a human is created as soon as he or she is conceived. God is present at our creation; He is, in fact, our Creator. Our value as human beings created in His image is conceived even before we are.

This is nothing new. Throughout history we have seen a group of people who, for various reasons feel the need to make others look as though they are subhuman.

The pro abortion crowd is just another in a long line of these barbarians. But have faith, they may have short term victories, but history tells us that they always lose in the end and are shown to be the evil people they are.

 

[Lesh]

This is nothing new. Throughout history we have seen a group of people who, for various reasons feel the need to make others look as though they are subhuman.

The pro abortion crowd is just another in a long line of these barbarians. But have faith, they may have short term victories, but history tells us that they always lose in the end and are shown to be the evil people they are.

As usual… you have it backwards

 

[Lesh]

Women trumpet their right to exercise control of their own bodies regarding reproduction. However, abortion is needed when a woman loses control of her reproductive cycle and gets pregnant unintentionally. A woman who is in control of her reproductive life knows when she is likely to get pregnant and has little need for abortion.

This said by a guy who has admitted leaving a trail of abandoned children

 

[Lesh]

This is nothing new. Throughout history we have seen a group of people who, for various reasons feel the need to make others look as though they are subhuman.

The pro abortion crowd is just another in a long line of these barbarians. But have faith, they may have short term victories, but history tells us that they always lose in the end and are shown to be the evil people they are.

Hey Norm

are you ever going to have your life or health risked by being pregnant?

No?

Oh

 

[Woodznutz]

This said by a guy who has admitted leaving a trail of abandoned children

True, nonetheless.

 

[Lesh]

True, nonetheless.

Pretty much nothing regarding this issue

 

[Woodznutz]

Pretty much nothing regarding this issue

My statement was made in context of a man and woman having casual unprotected sex and who is most responsible for avoiding pregnancy. A man is fertile all the time, a woman a few days during the month. Do the math.

 

[Couchpotato]

How about you just mind your own damn business and let women and their doctors figure it out.

Leave big government out of it

So I’m good to murder my neighbor and can tell the police to mind their own business? All our laws put the Government “in our business”. You’re fine with that though. The only time it applies is abortion. Try to make better arguments.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

And fetuses

yes, and fetuses; unless the pregnant woman decides to exercise her God-given, right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, and is chooses not to take the risk of giving birth to her fetus.

you said you understand Saint Norm that man can’t take away a person’s god given natural rights. That applies to the pregnant woman. You and your white Christian nationalist Republicans do not have a right to pass laws that deprive a pregnant woman of her God right to have control over what happens inside her body.