The irony of the abortion issue.

[talksalot]

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HeyNorm said: Democrats: hate the fetus,

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The right to call a fetus a kid comes with the woman alone who must assume the risk of delivering a fetus to live birth.

You have no right to impose your self important authoritarian religious belief that a “kid” begins to exist at conception on any law abiding citizen.

FYI:

RWAS • Right Wing Authoritarian Scale • Vachyz00698. (e.g., in Theodorp Adorno et al’s 1950 classic "The Authoritarian Personality"), PRRI developed a Right-Wing Authoritarianism Scale (RWAS) based on agreement with four highly correlated measures of authoritarian attitudes. PRRI finds that 43% of Americans score high or very high on the RWAS, compared with 37% who score low or very low; two in ten Americans qualify as having mixed opinions (20%). nfbw 240926 Vachyz00700​

43% is about at Trump’s approval rating ceiling. More from the same Vachyz00698

The PRRI study clearly shows how these authoritarian orientations — so pronounced among Republicans and their white evangelical Protestant base—translate into concrete attitudes and support for actions that undermine our democracy. Just two examples. First, nearly half of white evangelical Protestants (48%) and nearly four in ten Republicans (39%) agree with the theocratic vision of Christian dominionism, that “God wants Christians to take control of the ‘seven mountains’ of society, including the government, education, media and others.” Second, nearly half of Republicans (49%) — and a majority of Republicans with a favorable view of Trump (55%) — agree that “Because things have gotten so far off track in this country, we need a leader who is willing to break some rules if that's what it takes to set things right.” Four in ten white evangelicals (40%) also support rule-breaking by a strong leader. Vachyz00698​

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Why are you voting “authoritarian” adv005 Saint Marvinmartian? More from the same Vachyz00698:

White evangelical Protestants (64%) are the religious group most likely to score high on the RWAS, followed by slim majorities of Hispanic Protestants (54%) and white Catholics (54%). As a reminder, each of these groups also strongly supported Donald Trump in the 2020 election: 84% of white evangelical Protestants; 56% of other non-white/non-Black Protestants, and 57% of white Catholics. No other religious groups have majorities scoring high on the RWAS. Vachyz00698:​

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So, certain people, Democrats/liberals want unrestricted, irresponsible sex with no consequences, including ending the lives of innocent humans for convenience and they also want everyone who knows this is evil to shut up about it.

They even did a study to show that it's all the fault of people who point out their shitty behavior. Murder to solve problems should be allowed.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Democrats/liberals want unrestricted, irresponsible sex with no consequences, including ending the lives of innocent humans for convenience

Its not just Democrats/libersls. It is any American who opposes the six week abortion ban as too restrictive. That is it’s Don Trump and every American who votes for Don Trump wants unrestricted, irresponsible sex with no consequences, including ending the lives of innocent humans for convenience.

I’m sure that includes every Republican who did not vote for DeSantis and his six week abortion ban in Florida in the 2024 GOP Primary. I suspect that includes you Saint Talksalot.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

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i. el midgetron ADV553 cdx wrote: A woman’s free will begins with autonomy over her body. She can’t have that if she isn’t in control of her behavior and actions. lmdgtrn 240329 Swcbtw00409

ii. NotfooledbyW dlxxxiii reply to 409: As American women are to be regarded in law and societal moral norms to be exact and perfectly equals to men, do you Saint Elmidgetron agree that your post in (paragraph i. above) does not consider the fact that the male involved in the results of out of control sexual behavior faces no equal punishment nor really can there be practical “real” punishment for the male when your “ideal” of forcing full term pregnancy on all women who sexually misbehave in ways you so explicitly describe is so appalling and unsettling to you?

Do you agree both genders must be treated “Equally” under American Law?

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[Arlette]

It takes a woman who is ovulating at the time.

Not true.

Neither is true.

You're a deadbeat

 

[Frankenstein]

As usual… you have it backwards

Explain!

 

[Frankenstein]

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i. el midgetron ADV553 cdx wrote: A woman’s free will begins with autonomy over her body. She can’t have that if she isn’t in control of her behavior and actions. lmdgtrn 240329 Swcbtw00409

ii. NotfooledbyW dlxxxiii reply to 409: As American women are to be regarded in law and societal moral norms to be exact and perfectly equals to men, do you Saint Elmidgetron agree that your post in (paragraph i. above) does not consider the fact that the male involved in the results of out of control sexual behavior faces no equal punishment nor really can there be practical “real” punishment for the male when your “ideal” of forcing full term pregnancy on all women who sexually misbehave in ways you so explicitly describe is so appalling and unsettling to you?

Do you agree both genders must be treated “Equally” under American Law?

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Sweet give men equal protection when it comes to their offspring in the womb!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Sweet give men equal protection when it comes to their offspring in the womb!

When you cease and desist applying state governments for forcing full-term gestation on women can there be equal protection for American citizens who intentionally engage in unprotected sex not wanting to have a child nine months later.

 

[Frankenstein]

When you cease and desist applying state governments for forcing full-term gestation on women can there be equal protection for American citizens who intentionally engage in unprotected sex not wanting to have a child nine months later.

Both engage in unprotected sex, no rights for half of those who engaged. No one forced her to get pregnant and that child may have more of the fathers dna and may have his blood type.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Both engage in unprotected sex

Then why are the states punishing only the women potentially under the penalty of death or grievous harm to the body when the unprotected sex produces a conception that makes it past natural miscarriage? and the man goes Scot free

 

[Woodznutz]

What consequence did you face when you abandoned all those women and children?

None, as none chose to take action against me.

 

[Lesh]

None, as none chose to take action against me.

So you suffered NO consequences for that string of abandoned pregnancies
But you are an anti-abortion type

 

[Woodznutz]

That’s the WORST that can happen.

Move out of state and … nothing

How did you avoid responsibility

What often happens is that the woman takes a job out of state or in a different city while making arrangements for adopting out the child, that is if she doesn't opt for abortion. They do this to spare everyone the embarrassment of the situation. The father in these cases is left out of the loop entirely. Many times, the man is unaware that the woman is even pregnant if the affair was casual and fleeting.

 

[Woodznutz]

So you suffered NO consequences for that string of abandoned pregnancies
But you are an anti-abortion type

Abandoned suggests that I knew about the pregnancies, which I didn't until much later; in one case nearly 60 years later.

Her choice, but I favor adoption of my unintended offspring.

 

[Frankenstein]

Then why are the states punishing only the women potentially under the penalty of death or grievous harm to the body when the unprotected sex produces a conception that makes it past natural miscarriage? and the man goes Scot free

Since that is a bogus argument I will not even entertain it!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Since that is a bogus argument I will not even entertain it!

four women have suffered the punishment of death because of abortion bans in Georgia and Texas. You are a stuck woman punishing MAGA and you do not know how to respond. Very well.

 

[Frankenstein]

four women have suffered the punishment of death because of abortion bans in Georgia and Texas. You are a stuck woman punishing MAGA and you do not know how to respond. Very well.

Cite your source! And give me the four women! It changes nothing about men getting no say in their equal child!

 

[gmeyers1944]

It's not normal for peo

You've been busted for this before. You know you're lying. You just think god blesses your lies. That's not the case. God would never tell you to lie like that. You're following the orders of the other guy.

Anyways, it's supremely weird and creepy for someone to spend their life obsessing abourt whether other people are having sex in a manner you approve of, as pro-lifers do.

Women have the right to control their bodies. Making choices is an important part of life, especially when it comes to having children. Most of the time, an unwanted pregnancy occurs when a bad choice was made. Agreeing to unprotected sex is a bad choice if she doesn't want to become pregnant. She could also consider not engaging in sex. Bottom line: The baby is not part of the woman's body. He (she) is inside the woman's body and is dependent upon her body for survival but is a separate person.

 

[gmeyers1944]

We know why you tell these really stupid lies.

You're a hate-perv. You get a sick thrill from hating, and you're addicted to that sick thrill.

That is a typical leftist response. You can't refute the message so you attack the messenger.

 

[Woodznutz]

Abandoned suggests that I knew about the pregnancies, which I didn't until much later; in one case nearly 60 years later.

Her choice, but I favor adoption of my unintended offspring.

In any case the father rarely has any say in the matter.

 

[Frankenstein]

We know why you tell these really stupid lies.

You're a hate-perv. You get a sick thrill from hating, and you're addicted to that sick thrill.

So you aren't killing kids?