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The Impossibility of the Democrat Fantasy Electric World

Jarlaxle

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Yea, I guess that is true. I don't go out that way so I don't know. I thought all of them went around the mountains.

Uhh...how do you figure that works?

I-40 and I-10 are 'less' mountainy.

I-40 goes to 7300'. (Higher than I-90, only 1300' lower than I-80.) I-10 tops out just over 5000'. (I-40 and I-10 top out in Arizona.)
 

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Trump had one plan, to make money off the presidency for himself and his family.
Agreed. That is why he rushed the vaccine development against the recommendation of fauci.

He jeopardized America for votes in the upcoming election.
 

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Funny. The right with their polluting petroleum pumping out articles about how bad electricity is. But are the right going to give up electricity? Nope.
No more than the left is going to give up fossil fuel when they realize that alternative energy is not enough
 
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You don't understand...it isn't a nightmare, it is the plan.

The democrat party does not want cheap, plentiful, reliable energy......anyone who thinks that they want those things hasn't paid attention to the democrat party.

The democrats know that solar and wind will never generate enough energy, and that is their goal. They believe that humans are overpopulating the planet, damaging the planet, and that too many people are too hard to control.

So...in order to reduce the population, stop the damage and make people easier to control....you limit how much energy people have....this limits family size, property ownership, location of populations, mobility of those populations....

So the goal is to make energy massively expensive, limit access to it, and make it unreliable.......

That is the goal. If you understand that, then what they do makes complete sense.
You’re preaching the the choir.
The term nightmare is used creatively.
 

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I think if the greenies would reduce the charging rate the danger of fire goes down too

But who wants to wait 3 days to use their mower?
 

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would take these "Green Energy" charlatans more seriously is they built 50 new nuclear plants in the U.S. IMMEDIATELY.
That’s hilarious. We already have the biggest fusion nuclear reactor pumping out more energy every hour to earth, then we can use an entire year. Why would you want to make dirty overpriced fission reactors when one is available now. The sun is the most reliable nuclear reactor there is.
 

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If the whole vehicle 'fleet' went hybrid it would easily double gas mileage.
Yup. For many, easing into EVs with hybrids is the way to go.
It will be a while till batteries have the energy density of a gallon of gasoline.
 

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I think if the greenies would reduce the charging rate the danger of fire goes down too

But who wants to wait 3 days to use their mower?
Fire ? How many people have died because of battery fires compared to gasoline fires ? Tell us.
 

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Alternatives, Renewables, Green, Clean energy is a complete failure.

Wall st likes it, building giant failing solar and wind farms equals giant profits selling mire sand, copper, tungsten, iron, hydrogen, coal, oil, etc., all that stuff it takes to nake the failed green dream
 

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Alternatives, Renewables, Green, Clean energy is a complete failure.

Wall st likes it, building giant failing solar and wind farms equals giant profits selling mire sand, copper, tungsten, iron, hydrogen, coal, oil, etc., all that stuff it takes to nake the failed green dream

And yet, every new commercial project around here gets solar panel because it's deemed cost effective. The Law does not say it has to be done like in CA. It's done because the heating and cooling of the building a net zero. Businesses do what is good for themselves.
 

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And yet, every new commercial project around here gets solar panel because it's deemed cost effective. The Law does not say it has to be done like in CA. It's done because the heating and cooling of the building a net zero. Businesses do what is good for themselves.
If you wish to call the government paying for the solar panels cost effective.

If you like the govetnment dictating how much the price of electricity is, how much utilities have to pay.

If you think it is right that the government mandates the price of solar will be 10xs the going rate of electricity

And as long as you realize we must build an equal amount of fossil fuel plants ti make up for the lack of efficiency of solar

And if you like the extreme cost of food
 

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Alternatives, Renewables, Green, Clean energy is a complete failure.

Wall st likes it, building giant failing solar and wind farms equals giant profits selling mire sand, copper, tungsten, iron, hydrogen, coal, oil, etc., all that stuff it takes to nake the failed green dream
Regardless of the source of energy, we're putting money into "a bag with holes in it".
 

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And yet, every new commercial project around here gets solar panel because it's deemed cost effective. The Law does not say it has to be done like in CA. It's done because the heating and cooling of the building a net zero. Businesses do what is good for themselves.
It's cost-effective because the taxpayers are subsidizing it.
 

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It's cost-effective because the taxpayers are subsidizing it.

Subsidized is just another factor in the economics of it. Even the VA is getting it. They built an overhead ceiling for their parking area. It didn't cost that much more to replace the normal roof covering with solar sales. Before the early 1970s, the VA Hospital provided their own Coal fired electricity. 30 years later, they are now providing their own Electricity while selling the excess back to the Power company. This was done without being subsidized by the State. Even it there were subsidizing, it just made good sense.

BTW, we don't use anything other than completely renewable energy for electricity around here. We have shut down the coal fired plants all except one. The way it's done for shutdown, an alternate electricity source must be present before the shutdown. Right now, the Craig Coal Fired has 3 turbines with only one running. And that is progged to be shut down by 2025. Colorado has been working in this direction for the last 50 years. It's not done over night and it's still ongoing.

Either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
 

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