The Humanitarian Gaza Flotillas Saga

[Dante]

After Bebe came to America in a fit of disrespect for diplomatic codes and to spit in the face of our elected President I say -- screw Israel....go fight your war with the Arabs and whoever is left standing we recognize

 

[Kondor3]

...There is no need to dislodge Israel be force of arms. By abandoning the two-state solution, demographics will determine the fate of Israel as a Jewish state.

Not if the Israelis keep squeezing them off the few postage-stamp -sized slivers of land that they still have, and as Israel settlers continue to rush to fill the vacuum.

 

[Kondor3]

After Bebe came to America in a fit of disrespect for diplomatic codes and to spit in the face of our elected President I say -- screw Israel....go fight your war with the Arabs and whoever is left standing we recognize

Nahhhhhh... Bibi came here at the invitation of the US Speaker of the House of Representatives, which, itself, does not trust the present President, in matters of foreign policy.

It was a way for the elected representatives of the People of the United States to reassure a good friend and ally that regardless of what the rather hostile sitting President says or does, that the State of Israel has a friend in the American People, and its House of Representatives, as well as the newly Republican-dominated US Senate.

 

[Dante]

Kondor3

...The Mandate did not give Zionists the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights or East Jerusalem.

True.

The Jews gave themselves the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem.

Either way, they hold the pink-slip, now.

And much of the world is content that it be so.

Well... that part that counts, anyway.

There is no Arab Cavalry coming over the hill to change that.

There will be no sortie by 'the world' to change that.

So, sit back and enjoy the next few decades, as Israel consolidates and firms-up that ownership, and nudges out those Arabs who are dumb enough to hang around.

It is a fait accompli.

Really?

 

[flacaltenn]

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They are correct. It is not trolling, its just nota legal thread when when its been diverted this far.
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[flacaltenn]

Bump. Round 2.

 

[Billo_Really]

Bump. Round 2.

Awe man, now what am I going to do with all the malt liquor I just drank?

 

[Daniyel]

Bump. Round 2.

Awe man, now what am I going to do with all the malt liquor I just drank?

Throw up a fresh start.

 

[flacaltenn]

Bump. Round 2.

Awe man, now what am I going to do with all the malt liquor I just drank?

Throw up a fresh start.

It wasnt ALL off topic. Some good themes were there. I just cant get all irate about inspecting incoming cargo to a government run by Iranian proxy terrorists. If it was any other tiny sliver of humanity, there would be a full out embargo in place.

Having a responsible government that WANTS ports and sovereign unfettered commerce would solve the problem.. Electing Hamas and destroying the democratic process is a bad move IF you value ports and commerce. Its really that simple. Give Billo an hour to sober up --- or maybe not -- before the thread is at warp speed again..

 

[montelatici]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

 

[Daniyel]

Bump. Round 2.

Awe man, now what am I going to do with all the malt liquor I just drank?

Throw up a fresh start.

It wasnt ALL off topic. Some good themes were there. I just cant get all irate about inspecting incoming cargo to a government run by Iranian proxy terrorists. If it was any other tiny sliver of humanity, there would be a full out embargo in place.

Having a responsible government that WANTS ports and sovereign unfettered commerce would solve the problem.. Electing Hamas and destroying the democratic process is a bad move IF you value ports and commerce. Its really that simple. Give Billo an hour to sober up --- or maybe not -- before the thread is at warp speed again..

Thing is they do value ports, Israel realized that which is why there is a blockade in the first place, the flotillas attempt falls apart because of their controversial nature. I made a second thread that conjugates from this point regarding Hamas and their intentions, would be nice to see a sober (and fresh) opinion about the use of the ports Hamas values and Hamas intentions.

 

[Roudy]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

 

[Roudy]

When there is less value placed on hospitals, ports, and stable honest governing than there is on ancient vendettas and tribal wars --- it's as tho you put our smartest leaders (if we have any of those) 2 centuries into the future and see how they deal with problems and issues they never imagined. Indigenous people can't afford to ignore the calendar and the pace of the world around them..

THESE poor folks -- the Palestinians --- would be a trail mix snack for an ISIS invasion of their new "palestine" if they didn't have the will to adapt, build, make friends and thrive..

If the tribal hatreds are so strong we should the rest of us stay out of it. Keep it contained, but stay out of it.

Yeah I agree stay out of it, and stop the double standards towards Israel, and stop telling them how to deal with terrorist savages.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

Look at the definition of terrorist and you will see that it describes hamas perfectly

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

Look at the definition of terrorist and you will see that it describes hamas perfectly

And Israel much better.

Israel calling Hamas terrorists is like the coal mine calling the kettle black.

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

Look at the definition of terrorist and you will see that it describes hamas perfectly

And Israel much better.

Israel calling Hamas terrorists is like the coal mine calling the kettle black.

 

[Phoenall]

No evidence of Israeli terrorism outside of your fantasy, but plenty of recorded cases of Palestinian terrorism

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

Hamas is "only" a political party? Do you see Republicans in the U.S. shooting rockets? Democrats building tunnels?

 

[Roudy]

Hamas was elected democratically because the PLO was considered corrupt.

And Hamas are angels walking around with halos on their heads, that's why they are designated as a terrorist organization by the U.S. And the West.

In Palestine, where Hamas was elected, Hamas is a constitutionally protected political party.

They are only terrorists to Israel and their name calling lackeys in the west.

So you think all of Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, and the U.S. Are "name calling lackeys" of Isrsel?

Tell that to the judge.