The Height of Ridiculous

Yurt has been beat for the stupid sentence of the day: "The death penalty in the 20th and 21st centuries is a classic illustration of Liberalism in action."

If you mean the World's general rejection of capital punishment, then put it into context, please.
 
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He's unconscious. He can't suffer mental torture because he's not aware.

The mental torture of being walked, or dragged kicking and screaming, into the chamber of death...then being tied up, then stuck with the needle of death for extermination...after being on death row for ten years, waiting for the day the govt man will arrive for the kill.
Sure looks like torture to me.

Same deal as in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand etc.

You do realize they drug them before they even get started right?

It's all barbaric.
Might as well do experiments on them without anaesthetic and be totally like Japan and Germany of the 1940s.
 
The mental torture of being walked, or dragged kicking and screaming, into the chamber of death...then being tied up, then stuck with the needle of death for extermination...after being on death row for ten years, waiting for the day the govt man will arrive for the kill.
Sure looks like torture to me.

Same deal as in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand etc.

You do realize they drug them before they even get started right?

It's all barbaric.
Might as well do experiments on them without anaesthetic and be totally like Japan and Germany of the 1940s.

Barbarism is better displayed by someone who would rape and murder a young girl.
Or killing someone for their wallet or car.
Now thats barbaric.
Killing someone for doing those things is justice. Dont want to get the needle? Dont kill anyone.
 
Anyone who believes that what he did and what the state did to him are even comparable is an idiot. The product of American public schools, no doubt.

The 8th Amendment prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment. Consider that the guillotine was considered quite progressive in its day for its quick and humane killing, was in existence at the time of the passage of the 8th amendment, and would have been perfectly fine for the Founding Fathers, had anyone asked them. And BTW, we have yet to invent anything better for quick, painless executions.

The death penalty in the 20th and 21st centuries is a classic illustration of Liberalism in action.

Throughout the life of this Republic, the majority of citizens have strongly supported the death penalty, as a final and definitive punishment for those who commit the most heinous crimes. Furthermore, the Constitution specifically condones the death penalty in at least two places, where it refers to citizens being deprived of life legitimately by the state.

But Liberals (and Progressives, if there is any difference) don't like the Constitution when it disagrees with their own omnipotent wisdom, and couldn't care less about the Will of the Majority, whom they hold in perpetual contempt. Nor do they give a fig about the laws of the United States and/or the 50 individual states, when those laws are offensive to Them.

Knowing that they could never in a Brazillion years gather up the public support to abolish the DP by Constitutional Amendment, either at the federal level or in more than a few queer, unusual states, they have mounted a decades long campaign to thwart the DP in the Courts, where you don't need a majority, and don't require - unfortunately - either the laws or the Constitution to back you. You just make your fucking ruling and take 50 or a 100 pages writing an "opinion" that justifies turning the laws, the constitution, the decision of the trial court, and the will of the people on their respective ears.

The infamous and idious justices Brennan and Marshal frequently wrote in their opinions that if they had their choice they would simply abolish the DP by judicial fiat! Fuck the Constitution. Fuck the laws. Fuck the judges and juries who put their hearts and souls into reaching the conclusion they did.

WE DON'T LIKE IT, therefore, we will do whatever it takes to prevent it.

What was the great State of Ohio doing experimenting with a new execution drug? Trying to work around the liberal assholes who had placed countless obstacles in front of the state, trying to prevent it from doing what it is legally, constitutionally, morally, ethically, and by popular will entitled to do!

And if the survivors of this human piece of excrement can find a Liberal judge to present their civil case to, they can suck a few million more from the taxpayers of Ohio, making this even more of a cluster fuck than it already is.

Liberals.

There ought to be a "season" on 'em, like deer and blackbears.

God Bless the Liberals!
They can see the horrors of the death penalty system and death chambers.

It might be in the Constitution, and be law...but it sure ain't moral and ethical.
So it must be stopped.
 
Yeah, well he should of thought of that before he raped and murdered that poor woman.
He ignored her rights so I really don't have too much sympathy for him.


It's not about him...it's about what the state is doing.

He killed her...the state killed him.
Makes the state the same as him...many people believe.

Well isnt that a simplistic view.

It is...both killers of living human beings.
 
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The mental torture of being walked, or dragged kicking and screaming, into the chamber of death...then being tied up, then stuck with the needle of death for extermination...after being on death row for ten years, waiting for the day the govt man will arrive for the kill.
Sure looks like torture to me.

Same deal as in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand etc.


Yeah, well he should of thought of that before he raped and murdered that poor woman.
He ignored her rights so I really don't have too much sympathy for him.


It's not about him...it's about what the state is doing.

He killed her...the state killed him.
Makes the state the same as him...many people believe.






Those people are wrong.
 
Anyone who believes that what he did and what the state did to him are even comparable is an idiot. The product of American public schools, no doubt.

The 8th Amendment prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment. Consider that the guillotine was considered quite progressive in its day for its quick and humane killing, was in existence at the time of the passage of the 8th amendment, and would have been perfectly fine for the Founding Fathers, had anyone asked them. And BTW, we have yet to invent anything better for quick, painless executions.

The death penalty in the 20th and 21st centuries is a classic illustration of Liberalism in action.

Throughout the life of this Republic, the majority of citizens have strongly supported the death penalty, as a final and definitive punishment for those who commit the most heinous crimes. Furthermore, the Constitution specifically condones the death penalty in at least two places, where it refers to citizens being deprived of life legitimately by the state.

But Liberals (and Progressives, if there is any difference) don't like the Constitution when it disagrees with their own omnipotent wisdom, and couldn't care less about the Will of the Majority, whom they hold in perpetual contempt. Nor do they give a fig about the laws of the United States and/or the 50 individual states, when those laws are offensive to Them.

Knowing that they could never in a Brazillion years gather up the public support to abolish the DP by Constitutional Amendment, either at the federal level or in more than a few queer, unusual states, they have mounted a decades long campaign to thwart the DP in the Courts, where you don't need a majority, and don't require - unfortunately - either the laws or the Constitution to back you. You just make your fucking ruling and take 50 or a 100 pages writing an "opinion" that justifies turning the laws, the constitution, the decision of the trial court, and the will of the people on their respective ears.

The infamous and idious justices Brennan and Marshal frequently wrote in their opinions that if they had their choice they would simply abolish the DP by judicial fiat! Fuck the Constitution. Fuck the laws. Fuck the judges and juries who put their hearts and souls into reaching the conclusion they did.

WE DON'T LIKE IT, therefore, we will do whatever it takes to prevent it.

What was the great State of Ohio doing experimenting with a new execution drug? Trying to work around the liberal assholes who had placed countless obstacles in front of the state, trying to prevent it from doing what it is legally, constitutionally, morally, ethically, and by popular will entitled to do!

And if the survivors of this human piece of excrement can find a Liberal judge to present their civil case to, they can suck a few million more from the taxpayers of Ohio, making this even more of a cluster fuck than it already is.

Liberals.

There ought to be a "season" on 'em, like deer and blackbears.

God Bless the Liberals!
They can see the horrors of the death penalty system and death chambers.

It might be in the Constitution, and be law...but it sure ain't moral and ethical.
So it must be stopped.






Actually, it is ethical to kill murderers.
 
It's not about him...it's about what the state is doing.

He killed her...the state killed him.
Makes the state the same as him...many people believe.

Well isnt that a simplistic view.

It is...both killers of living human beings.






I'll debate you on whether they are indeed human beings. The Green River Killer is certainly humanoid, but is he human? I don't think so. He exhibits no human qualities other than the ability to speak. He is a predator of women. He hunts them down and rapes and kills them for pleasure.

Do you really consider him human?
 
Let's bring back the firing squad or the electric chair or public hanging. So they want a “humane execution”? Get it over quick – and in public.

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It took him 26 minutes to die. How long did it take 22-year old Joy Stewart to die? :evil:

Joy Stewart was not killed by a state government. You are comparing apples and elephants.
 
Joy Stewart was not killed by a state government. You are comparing apples and elephants.

Do you think he should have gotten a nice "I Participated" award for raping an murdering her?

Rational people think he should have been put down like a rabid dog - which he was.

Rational people also are able to compare death by being murdered and death by an orchestrated, state procedure. If a rational person thinks about it, the former would probably be far preferable, regardless of the manner of death involved. Hint: It has to do with time.
 
Joy Stewart was not killed by a state government. You are comparing apples and elephants.

Do you think he should have gotten a nice "I Participated" award for raping an murdering her?

Rational people think he should have been put down like a rabid dog - which he was.

Rational people also are able to compare death by being murdered and death by an orchestrated, state procedure. If a rational person thinks about it, the former would probably be far preferable, regardless of the manner of death involved. Hint: It has to do with time.





George, if I were you I would seriously reconsider your position on that. Some murder victims endured days of torture before they were finally killed.
 
Do you think he should have gotten a nice "I Participated" award for raping an murdering her?

Rational people think he should have been put down like a rabid dog - which he was.

Rational people also are able to compare death by being murdered and death by an orchestrated, state procedure. If a rational person thinks about it, the former would probably be far preferable, regardless of the manner of death involved. Hint: It has to do with time.





George, if I were you I would seriously reconsider your position on that. Some murder victims endured days of torture before they were finally killed.

It takes years for the government to kill someone, not days.
 
Yes, it is simple.
The govt kills living human beings in its chambers of death.

Premeditated, planned killing.
Human beings turn into corpses in the govt's death chambers.

Counting corpses with the cool dedication of a trained bookkeeper, he went home each night to the loving embrace of his own family. An affectionate husband who kissed his wife morning and night, and tucked his children into bed.
 

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