The gun lobby has politicized the American Senate, and many Right Wing POLS

[Big Bend Texas]

How would penalizing someone for a “straw purchase“ after a mass shooting prevent that shooting?

Thar be the problem. Laws punish crime, they don't prevent them. Yes there is a deterrent effect but that doesn't stop people who simply don't care what the law is.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Responsible gun owners shoudnt have a problem with checking if a person is crazy before selling them a gun because honestly it makes you look bad.

Prior restraint and preconditions on the exercise of a right eliminate the right entirely rendering it nothing but a privilege that may be denied for any arbitrary reason.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Nope. I'm a gun owner. I don't want to restrict law abiding criminals from owning guns.

Damn, that's priceless.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Giving it more time and the odds he ends up in the ER for a 5150 Review as well.

There's a lot of crazy, mentally unbalanced people running around the country with very few of them ever committing even a single murder much less a mass shooting.

Yup. Hopefully he gets flagged before we allow him to buy an AR-15.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Yup. Hopefully he gets flagged before we allow him to buy an AR-15.

Yet this guy obviously wasn't.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Don't the schools and police have an obligation here?

If he's demonstrating such behaviors don't you think they have an obligation to start the process rolling?

He wasn’t going to school. And the police never caught him doing anything because he wasn’t reported.

Give it more time like I said and he’s more likely to get flagged.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Why do you feel such a need to lie?

Nobody is advocating for psychotic 18yo's to be able to lawfully buy firearms. NOBODY.

What do you propose to keep guys like this from legally purchasing an AR-15 rifle?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Horse shit all you need to do to find someone to sell you a gun illegally is find the local drug dealer who can always point you in the right direction. Many of them will themselves as they are not opposed to bartering dope for stolen guns.

He didn’t have friends. He didn’t have connections. Deterrents are better than handing him a weapon of death on a silver platter.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yet this guy obviously wasn't.

Obviously. Raising the minimum age might have bought enough time to flag him.

 

[Nostra]

Obviously. Raising the minimum age might have bought enough time to flag him.

Obviously….maybe.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Obviously….maybe.

If you have a better plan, I’m listening.

 

[Nostra]

If you have a better plan, I’m listening.

Sorry, I have no plan on how to keep criminals from committing crimes. Kinda why we call them criminals.

Laws are there to punish people after the fact. The deterrence factor has never been high, and in this age of Woke Cult bullshit no bail, no charges, let’s get rid of cops there is no deterrence factor at all.

 

[Lurchadams]

SOO RIN KIM
Tue, May 31, 2022, 2:04 AM


Texas Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, who represent the state where an 18-year-old gunman carried out one of the nation's deadliest school shootings last week, are among Congress' top recipients of contributions from pro-gun donors, campaign finance records show.
Cruz, in particular, has taken in the most money from pro-gun individuals and groups of anyone in the current Congress, amassing $442,000 over the course of his career, according to an analysis of disclosure reports by the nonpartisan campaign finance research group OpenSecrets.
Cornyn ranks third among current U.S. senators and representatives, receiving a total of $340,000 in contributions from pro-gun donors over his career, after Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., who has amassed $396,000, according to the analysis.

In Texas and beyond, many politicians receive mega donations from pro-gun supporters and lobbyists, and their dollars keep them in office. ​

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In fact, our elections are flooded with emoluments given to Members of Congress, and that was made possible by a 5-4 decision in the Supreme Court.​

Citizens United Explained

The 2010 Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence toward wealthy donors and corporations.

www.brennancenter.org

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A 5–4 majority of the Supreme Court sided with Citizens United, ruling that corporations and other outside groups can spend unlimited money on elections.

What was the rationale for the ruling?​

In the court’s opinion, Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that limiting “independent political spending” from corporations and other groups violates the First Amendment right to free speech. The justices who voted with the majority assumed that independent spending cannot be corrupt and that the spending would be transparent, but both assumptions have proven to be incorrect.

Ted Cruz is the US Senator who has taken the most gun lobby money. He is such an evil little weasel.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Sorry, I have no plan on how to keep criminals from committing crimes. Kinda why we call them criminals.

Laws are there to punish people after the fact. The deterrence factor has never been high, and in this age of Woke Cult bullshit no bail, no charges, let’s get rid of cops there is no deterrence factor at all.

So do nothing. Got it.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Obviously. Raising the minimum age might have bought enough time to flag him.

All that would have accomplished is for him to find a way to acquire one illegally or choose something else.

Laws don't stop anyone hell bent on committing murder or mass murder.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Ted Cruz is the US Senator who has taken the most gun lobby money. He is such an evil little weasel.

So what? A big part of why we elected him to begin with and continue reelecting him is that we know he'll be a staunch defender of our gun rights.

He's doing exactly what Texas wants him to do.

 

[XponentialChaos]

All that would have accomplished is for him to find a way to acquire one illegally or choose something else.

Laws don't stop anyone hell bent on committing murder or mass murder.

We don’t know if he would have been able to acquire one or not. Simple as that.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

So do nothing. Got it.

As if gun bans and "nothing" are the only two available options.

Such thinking is the product of a diseased and damaged mind.

 

[Lurchadams]

So what? A big part of why we elected him to begin with and continue reelecting him is that we know he'll be a staunch defender of our gun rights.

He's doing exactly what Texas wants him to do.

Yes. You lying hypocrites are such defenders of babies. Those babies being laid to rest in Uvalde needed you last week! Where were you you evil, redneck bitch?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

We don’t know if he would have been able to acquire one or not. Simple as that.

Of course we do just like millions of other criminals do every year in this country he would have found a way to lay hands on one.