The General Who Died Twice

[PoliticalChic]

9. It is horrifying to note the cost to America that FDR accepted by following Stalin's demand that only unconditional surrender be accepted.



The Roosevelt apologists regularly try to shield the 32nd President from well deserved contumely.....
To get an idea of the cost of the extended war...."....over one hundred thirty-five thousand American GIs died – a startling figure today – between D day[june 6, 1944] and V-E day,[May 8, 1945]...."
So did the Red Army really singlehandedly defeat the Third Reich Stuff I Done Wrote - The Michael A. Charles Online Presence

Get that?

135,000 brave American boys whose lives were offered up as a gift to Stalin....to make certain that communism survived.


Based on the ration of deaths to wounded, that would suggest almost an additional 200,000 wounded, just between Normandy and Germany's surrender.

Totally attributed to 'unconditional surrender.'





a. had the opportunity to end the war years earlier, thereby saving 100,000-200,000 American soldiers' lives.....

b. that there war numerous anti-Nazi, anti-Hitler, anti-communist Germans in both the political realm, and in the military who were desirous of ending the war via surrender to the Allies.

c. that the only explanation for Roosevelt's actions....or, lack of same,....is that he embraced Stalin and his regime to the exclusion of rationality.


None of the above are deniable.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now.....about Canaris "dying twice".....


10. Why did Roosevelt refuse the contact anti-Nazi Germans attempted?

"Archival evidence indicates that the Soviet’s wanted the war to continue long enough for them to conquer Eastern Europe and in order for Germany to be utterly destroyed or “pastoralized” which was called for in the Morgenthau Plan which was actually written by Soviet spy Harry Dexter White. The Soviets were also clamoring for a “second front” in France in order to deflect the allies out of Italy and the Balkans which was too close to Russia."
Chuck Morse Speaks: The Canaris Cover-up



"Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris


"Wilhelm Franz Canaris (1 January 1887 – 9 April 1945) was a German admiral, and chief of the Abwehr, the German military intelligence service, from 1935 to 1944. During the Second World War, he was among the military officers involved in the clandestine opposition to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime.... "
Wilhelm Canaris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




A few weeks before the war ended, Canaris was hanged by he Nazis. Hanged twice: They hung him...then revived him, and hung him again,,,, "once to show him what death tasted like."
“Canaris Hanging Related,” New York Times, October 11, 1952.

 

[Decus]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

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[surada]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

.

Okay.. What was Hitler's brand of socialism? He also purged clergy, lawyers, doctors, professors .. anyone with an education who might oppose him. He loved the uneducated.

 

[Decus]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

.

Okay.. What was Hitler's brand of socialism? He also purged clergy, lawyers, doctors, professors .. anyone with an education who might oppose him. He loved the uneducated.

You're on to something. Could it be that Hitler was muslim? He was also racist which is a trait found in muslims.

.

 

[Decus]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

.

Okay.. What was Hitler's brand of socialism? He also purged clergy, lawyers, doctors, professors .. anyone with an education who might oppose him. He loved the uneducated.

You're on to something. Could it be that Hitler was muslim? He was also racist which is a trait found in muslims.

.

Hitler did go to great lengths to praise islam:

"Some leading Nazis, particularly Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, repeatedly expressed their respect for Islam. Whenever denouncing the Catholic Church, Hitler routinely contrasted it with Islam. While he denounced Catholicism as a weak, effeminate religion, he praised Islam as a strong, aggressive, martial religion."

How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII – DW – 11/13/2017

Tens of thousands of Muslims fought for the Nazis in World War Two. DW spoke with historian David Motadel about whether pragmatism or anti-Semitism drove Adolf Hitler's overtures and why some Muslim leaders backed him.

www.dw.com

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[PoliticalChic]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

.

Okay.. What was Hitler's brand of socialism? He also purged clergy, lawyers, doctors, professors .. anyone with an education who might oppose him. He loved the uneducated.

You're on to something. Could it be that Hitler was muslim? He was also racist which is a trait found in muslims.

.

Hitler did go to great lengths to praise islam:

"Some leading Nazis, particularly Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, repeatedly expressed their respect for Islam. Whenever denouncing the Catholic Church, Hitler routinely contrasted it with Islam. While he denounced Catholicism as a weak, effeminate religion, he praised Islam as a strong, aggressive, martial religion."

How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII – DW – 11/13/2017

Tens of thousands of Muslims fought for the Nazis in World War Two. DW spoke with historian David Motadel about whether pragmatism or anti-Semitism drove Adolf Hitler's overtures and why some Muslim leaders backed him.

www.dw.com

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Perhaps you've read Berman's

He explains the spread of European totalitarianism to the Middle East....

1. Communism was the first of the new mass movements in Europe, and the first to flourish in the Middle East as well. Europe’s Fascist and fascist-style movements began in the years after World War One. The major difference was that Communists and Marxists, aimed to show how similar they were in every country…the Fascists’ aims were to show how local and parochial, how ‘nationalist’ and ancient its interests were.
   1. Baath Socialism had its myth of man and history, the Arab nation was it’s people of God, corrupted and polluted by forces within and forces without.
   2. From Michel Aflaq, the founder and greatest of the Baathi theoreticians: The philosophies and teachings that come from the West invade the Arab mind and steal his loyalty.”
   3. And the people of evil who corrupted the nation of God, were, of course, the Jews. Pan-Arabists of one kind or another were responsible for the anti-Semitic outbreaks of the ‘40’s and ‘60’s.
   4. The Arabs, in this projection, would return to their “pure, original nature” by revering the revolutionary Leader who embodied the “Arab Spirit,” the spirit one embodied in the Prophet Muhammad himself. This meant unlimited mass obedience, and this implied following the political organization, or the state. This view was not only totalitarian, but anther element that traces back to the Enlightenment- nihilism.
2. Although it followed the European versions by decades, it remained true to the form, the pattern…Instead of wanting with Mussolini, to resurrect the Roman Empire of ancient Italy; or, with Hitler, the Roman Empire of Nazi mythology; or with Franco to resurrect the medieval Spanish crusade for Christ the King- their particular yearning was for the Caliphate from the days of Muhammad. That was the Baathi “Renaissance.” This was fully in line with the twentieth century tradition.
3. Muslim’s other grand radical movement, Islamists, might seem, at first, to be an exception, free of the European virus… as the Egyptian and Pakistani versions began as organs of peaceful political reform, i.e., the strictly religious Muslim Brotherhood, …but scratch the surface, and there is the sympathy for Nazism. The Young Egypt Society, the ‘Greenshirts,’ were openly Nazi, and Hassan al-Banna was not far behind.

http://74.39.184.126/vb/showthread.php?t=130932 The Brotherhood even had it’s units designated ‘kata’ib’ or phalanges, a la Franco.

8. Sayyid Qutb, the single most influential Islamist writer. His masterwork, “In the Shade of the Qur’an,” commentaries on the various suras: Most of the original 30 volumes (114 Surahs) were written (or re-written) while in prison following an attempted assassination of Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser in 1954. Fi Zilal al-Quran - Wikipedia

The notion of Islam as totality was Qutb’s most important concept, distinguishing Islam from all other worldviews- ‘Tawhid,’ the oneness of God. (Of course, Marxists had the same belief: George Lukacs defined that characteristic of Marxism that distinguished it from bourgeois thinking: ‘the primacy of the category of totality.’)

9.. The most interesting aspect is not Qutb’s program, wonderful and deeply Muslim, but how it fits the pattern of 20th century Europe’s totalitarian movements. Each of them, also, had a grand vision of modern civilization and of desperate predicaments and utopian destinies. Each expressed the vision by telling of the ur-myth, the myth of Armageddon. So did Qutb.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

Hitler hated Communists, Socialist, Marxists, Democrats and Jews. See the Enabling Act of 1933 and the purge.

Hitler hated groups that he felt might be competitors to his brand of socialism.

.

Okay.. What was Hitler's brand of socialism? He also purged clergy, lawyers, doctors, professors .. anyone with an education who might oppose him. He loved the uneducated.

You're on to something. Could it be that Hitler was muslim? He was also racist which is a trait found in muslims.

.

. Jan. 30, 1933, Adolf Hitler became the newly appointed Chancellor of Germany, Arabs throughout the Mideast petitioned to join the Nazi party.



a. Mein Kampf was rated 4th on the best-seller list among Palestinians in a survey conducted and reported in PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida. Source: Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Sept. 2, 1999

b. Books such as Mein Kampf,The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and The International Jew are high on Turkish bestseller lists, and are displayed prominently in the front of bookstores

c. There are even Palestinians whose first name is “Hitler”: Hitler Salah [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Sept. 28, 2005], Hitler Abu-Alrab [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Jan. 27, 2005], Hitler Mahmud Abu-Libda [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Fatah), Dec.18, 2000.]

8. There were thousands of Muslims who directly joined and aided the Nazi war efforts, forming at least three Waffen SS Divions. “These SS Jihadists assisted the Ustashi Croats in their slaughter of 800,000 Serbs and Jews.” http://prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Clubs_Handschar_Muslim_Waffen_SS.Islam

a. In Yugoslavia, Muslims and the Catholic Church formed the Ustashe, the most brutal of all Nazi forces: the German Croatian fuehrer, Dr. Ante Pavelic had a basket of 40 pounds of eyes on his desk. The guards in prison camp had a contest to see who could slit more throats in one night: the winner slit 1,350. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem organized these squads.



"In 1935 the Iranian government requested those countries which it had diplomatic relations with, to call Persia "Iran," which is the name of the country in Persian.

The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis. At the time Germany was in the grip of racial fever and cultivated good relations with nations of "Aryan" blood. "
Iran Chamber Society: When "Persia" became "Iran"

 

[whitehall]

First of all we have to understand that there was no real intelligence network in the U.S. prior to and during WW2. Army and Navy intelligence were separate and competing and relied on mostly technical equipment and MAGIC. Wild Bill Donovan's cowboys were jumping into enemy territory but there was no central agency to analyze the information if any. Amazingly the Courts settled the issue and nominated the FBI to be the lead intelligence and espionage agency even though J. Edgar's heroes had absolutely no experience in espionage. From what I understand when Canaris offered to give inside intelligence information to the U.S. he was turned down.

 

[PoliticalChic]

First of all we have to understand that there was no real intelligence network in the U.S. prior to and during WW2. Army and Navy intelligence were separate and competing and relied on mostly technical equipment and MAGIC. Wild Bill Donovan's cowboys were jumping into enemy territory but there was no central agency to analyze the information if any. Amazingly the Courts settled the issue and nominated the FBI to be the lead intelligence and espionage agency even though J. Edgar's heroes had absolutely no experience in espionage. From what I understand when Canaris offered to give inside intelligence information to the U.S. he was turned down.

"First of all we have to understand that there was no real intelligence network in the U.S. prior to and during WW2."

Absolutely true!


Roosevelt couldn't image a need to spy on his BFF, Stalin.


That's why we co-opted the Nazi intel post war.


As Franklin Roosevelt had entered a "marriage" with Joseph Stalin, we had no assets able to infiltrate the Soviet government. The Nazis did.....Reinhard Gehlen.



Novelist Daniel Silva puts it this way:

" You see, before the war, we had no intelligence service-not areal one, anyway...our intelligence operation inside the Soviet Union consisted of a couple of guys from Harvard and a teletype machine. When we suddenly found ourselves nose to nose with the Russian bogeyman, we didn’t know shit about him. His strengths, his weaknesses, his intentions. And what’s more, we didn’t know how to find out. That another war was imminent was a foregone conclusion. And what did we have? Fuck all. No networks, no agents. Nothing. We were lost, wandering in the desert. We needed help. ...General Reinhard Gehlen, head of the German General Staff’s Foreign Armies East branch, Hitler’s chief spy on the Russian front.

“Gehlen was the answer to our prayers. The man had spent a career spying on the Soviet Union, and now he was going to show us the way. We brought him into this country.... . He told us what we wanted to hear. Stalinism was an evil unparalleled in human history. Stalin intended to subvert the countries of western Europe from within and then move against them militarily. Stalin had global ambitions. Be not afraid, Gehlen told us. I have networks, I have sleepers and stay-behind cells. I know everything there is to know about Stalin and his henchmen. Together, we will crush him.”



We used Nazi intel post was just as we used Nazi rocket scientists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

First of all we have to understand that there was no real intelligence network in the U.S. prior to and during WW2. Army and Navy intelligence were separate and competing and relied on mostly technical equipment and MAGIC. Wild Bill Donovan's cowboys were jumping into enemy territory but there was no central agency to analyze the information if any. Amazingly the Courts settled the issue and nominated the FBI to be the lead intelligence and espionage agency even though J. Edgar's heroes had absolutely no experience in espionage. From what I understand when Canaris offered to give inside intelligence information to the U.S. he was turned down.

"From what I understand when Canaris offered to give inside intelligence information to the U.S. he was turned down."


Absolutely true....and one of FDR's greatest crimes against America.


Why did Roosevelt refuse the contact anti-Nazi Germans attempted?

Stalin wanted no German resistance present after the war to blunt his total occupation of Europe.


"Archival evidence indicates that the Soviet’s wanted the war to continue long enough for them to conquer Eastern Europe and in order for Germany to be utterly destroyed or “pastoralized” which was called for in the Morgenthau Plan which was actually written by Soviet spy Harry Dexter White. The Soviets were also clamoring for a “second front” in France in order to deflect the allies out of Italy and the Balkans which was too close to Russia."
Chuck Morse Speaks: The Canaris Cover-up



"Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris


"Wilhelm Franz Canaris (1 January 1887 – 9 April 1945) was a German admiral, and chief of the Abwehr, the German military intelligence service, from 1935 to 1944. During the Second World War, he was among the military officers involved in the clandestine opposition to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime.... "
Wilhelm Canaris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




A few weeks before the war ended, Canaris was hanged by he Nazis. Hanged twice: They hung him...then revived him, and hung him again,,,, "once to show him what death tasted like."
“Canaris Hanging Related,” New York Times, October 11, 1952.

 

[PoliticalChic]

First of all we have to understand that there was no real intelligence network in the U.S. prior to and during WW2. Army and Navy intelligence were separate and competing and relied on mostly technical equipment and MAGIC. Wild Bill Donovan's cowboys were jumping into enemy territory but there was no central agency to analyze the information if any. Amazingly the Courts settled the issue and nominated the FBI to be the lead intelligence and espionage agency even though J. Edgar's heroes had absolutely no experience in espionage. From what I understand when Canaris offered to give inside intelligence information to the U.S. he was turned down.

"Wild Bill Donovan" served FDR-and Stalin's desire to end the career, and the life, of General Patton.


The OSS's Wild Bill Donovan "Donovan undertook what was known as Operation Jedburgh, in which teams of British, French, and American commandos parachuted into Nazi-occupied Europe and conducted the espionage that laid the groundwork for D-day. The men selected to be "Jedburghs" were trained in firearms, sabotage, and close-quarters fighting.



In early 1945, while staying at Claridge's, his favorite London hotel, Donovan met with a Jedburgh soldier named Douglas Bazata. The thirty-four-year-old Bazata was a red-haired former U.S. Marine .... was also a top marksman and was once the unofficial heavyweight boxing champion of the Marine Corps.



As he sat down for lunch, Bazata was curious: "You have an additional mission for me? You can trust me totally. I am the servant of the United States, of the OSS and General Donovan."



"Douglas, I do indeed have a problem," Donovan admitted. They were at a corner table, where they could not be overheard. "It is the extreme disobedience of General George Patton, and of his very serious disregard of orders for the common cause."



"Shall I kill him, sir?" Bazata was eager to please Donovan, but also cautious. He had met Patton before and liked the general.



"Yes, Douglas. You do exactly what you must. It is now totally your creation."

O'Reilly, "Killing Patton," p.294-295





Stalin wanted to be sure that a man with Patton's understanding of the aims of the communists were eliminated.

Roosevelt did everything he could to please Stalin.

Donovan did everything he could to please Roosevelt.

Bazata did everything he could to please Donovan.

 

[alang1216]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

View attachment 478001

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

First off, thanks for including my quote. I think of you often too. Second, Naziis are not socialists or leftists, they are nationalists. They outlawed and rounded up communists and socialists as soon as they took power. You do love that lie.

As for killing Hitler. What would have happened if Hitler was assassinated? Germany surrenders? Germany fights on under a new Nazi leader (Goering?)? We'll never know but I do appreciate you saying the Brits feared offending the Russians so obviously "Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior". Quite the leap of fantasy, even for you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

View attachment 478001

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

First off, thanks for including my quote. I think of you often too. Second, Naziis are not socialists or leftists, they are nationalists. They outlawed and rounded up communists and socialists as soon as they took power. You do love that lie.

As for killing Hitler. What would have happened if Hitler was assassinated? Germany surrenders? Germany fights on under a new Nazi leader (Goering?)? We'll never know but I do appreciate you saying the Brits feared offending the Russians so obviously "Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior". Quite the leap of fantasy, even for you.

" Naziis (sic) are not socialists"


Did I mention that your lack of geopolitical knowledge is a result of government schooling, and dearth of reading?


Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.


1.'Thanks' to government schooling, the tool of Liberals, many have been taught that communism and Nazism differed in any way other than a late-stage hatred of each other, has been played for a fool

Both are maniacal, and both are Leftwing.



2. The great significance of the revealed Nazi concentration camps, the Holocaust, was that post-war, the Democrats/Progressives could no longer idolize and identify with the Nazis, Fascists......only the Soviet Communists.

And, along with Stalin, the Democrat media now pretended that the Nazis were actually Rightwing.....when even their name included 'socialist.'


"Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
Stood for every program the Democrat Party stands for.


3. So the Left did exactly what Orwell had the Big Brother folks do.....lie about the opposition. And Democrats continue in that mode.

American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223





4. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Lenin, communist...Hitler, NationalSocialist..... "the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."




5. Hitler and Stalin were allies up until June 21, 1941, Stalin provided the resources for the Blitzkrieg of Hitler, and both attacked Poland, one from each side.
September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities.
Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.

6. "As you may be able to guess from the Cyrillic writing accompanying it, it was a Soviet Swastika -- used by the Red Army in its early days. It was worn as a shoulder patch by some Soviet troops. The Swastika too was a socialist symbol long before Hitler became influential. Prewar socialists (including some American socialists) used it on the grounds that it has two arms representing two entwined letters "S" (for "Socialist"). So even Hitler's symbolism was Leftist."
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST


Two Leftist programs, allies.




Have I mentioned that you have the intellectual acumen of Plum Pudding????



Consider it mentioned.



And proven.

 

[alang1216]

Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.

Just like DPRK is an abbreviation of Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the proper name for North Korea. You must believe they are democracy.

 

[alang1216]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

www.usmessageboard.com

3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

View attachment 478001

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

First off, thanks for including my quote. I think of you often too. Second, Naziis are not socialists or leftists, they are nationalists. They outlawed and rounded up communists and socialists as soon as they took power. You do love that lie.

As for killing Hitler. What would have happened if Hitler was assassinated? Germany surrenders? Germany fights on under a new Nazi leader (Goering?)? We'll never know but I do appreciate you saying the Brits feared offending the Russians so obviously "Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior". Quite the leap of fantasy, even for you.

" Naziis (sic) are not socialists"


Did I mention that your lack of geopolitical knowledge is a result of government schooling, and dearth of reading?


Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.


1.'Thanks' to government schooling, the tool of Liberals, many have been taught that communism and Nazism differed in any way other than a late-stage hatred of each other, has been played for a fool

Both are maniacal, and both are Leftwing.



2. The great significance of the revealed Nazi concentration camps, the Holocaust, was that post-war, the Democrats/Progressives could no longer idolize and identify with the Nazis, Fascists......only the Soviet Communists.

And, along with Stalin, the Democrat media now pretended that the Nazis were actually Rightwing.....when even their name included 'socialist.'


"Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
Stood for every program the Democrat Party stands for.


3. So the Left did exactly what Orwell had the Big Brother folks do.....lie about the opposition. And Democrats continue in that mode.

American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223





4. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Lenin, communist...Hitler, NationalSocialist..... "the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."




5. Hitler and Stalin were allies up until June 21, 1941, Stalin provided the resources for the Blitzkrieg of Hitler, and both attacked Poland, one from each side.
September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities.
Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.

6. "As you may be able to guess from the Cyrillic writing accompanying it, it was a Soviet Swastika -- used by the Red Army in its early days. It was worn as a shoulder patch by some Soviet troops. The Swastika too was a socialist symbol long before Hitler became influential. Prewar socialists (including some American socialists) used it on the grounds that it has two arms representing two entwined letters "S" (for "Socialist"). So even Hitler's symbolism was Leftist."
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST


Two Leftist programs, allies.




Have I mentioned that you have the intellectual acumen of Plum Pudding????



Consider it mentioned.



And proven.

Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?

Anyone who has been on political Twitter in the past decade has seen a version of this syllogism. Conservatives, seeking to escape the “fascist” and “Nazi” labels tossed at them by leftist critics since the 1960s, have turned the tables. Books such as Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” have noted that many leading fascists, such as Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, started out as socialists, just as many early 20th-century “progressives” embraced eugenic ideas ultimately linked to Nazi racist genocide. This connection has become a silver bullet for voices on the right like Dinesh D’Souza and Candace Owens: Not only is the reviled left, embodied in 2020 by figures like Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren, a dangerous descendant of the Nazis, but anyone who opposes it can’t possibly have ties to the Nazis’ odious ideas.

There is only one problem: This argument is untrue. Although the Nazis did pursue a level of government intervention in the economy that would shock doctrinaire free marketeers, their “socialism” was at best a secondary element in their appeal. Indeed, most supporters of Nazism embraced the party precisely because they saw it as an enemy of and an alternative to the political left. A closer look at the connection between Nazism and socialism can help us better understand both ideologies in their historical contexts and their significance for contemporary politics.

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The Nazi regime had little to do with socialism, despite it being prominently included in the name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. The NSDAP, from Hitler on down, struggled with the political implications of having socialism in the party name. Some early Nazi leaders, such as Gregor and Otto Strasser, appealed to working-class resentments, hoping to wean German workers away from their attachment to existing socialist and communist parties. The NSDAP’s 1920 party program, the 25 points, included passages denouncing banks, department stores and “interest slavery,” which suggested a quasi-Marxist rejection of free markets. But these were also typical criticisms in the anti-Semitic playbook, which provided a clue that the party’s overriding ideological goal wasn’t a fundamental challenge to private property.

Instead of controlling the means of production or redistributing wealth to build a utopian society, the Nazis focused on safeguarding a social and racial hierarchy. They promised solidarity for members of the Volksgemeinschaft (“racial community”) even as they denied rights to those outside the charmed circle.

Additionally, while the Nazis tried to appeal to voters across the spectrum, the party’s founders and initial base were small-business men and artisans, not the industrial proletariat of Marxist lore. Their first notable electoral successes were in small towns and Protestant rural areas in present-day Thuringia and Saxony, among voters suspicious of cosmopolitan, secular cities who associated both “socialism” and “capitalism” with Jews and foreigners.


This fear of social revolution and a sense that democracy, with its cacophony of voices and the need for compromises, would threaten their preferred social hierarchy gave Nazism its appeal with these voters — even if it meant sacrificing democracy. While Communists abetted the destruction of German democracy, seeing it as a way to eventually produce the revolution they wanted, the only German political party that consistently resisted Nazi arguments, the Social Democratic Party (SPD), offered another sign of the discontinuity between socialism and Nazism.

Those outside Germany who embraced Nazi ideas were also generally anti-leftists. When Frenchmen murmured “Better Hitler than [Socialist Party Leader and Prime Minister Léon] Blum,” they were well aware what National Socialism represented, and it was most emphatically not “socialism.” When many of those same Frenchmen set up the puppet Vichy government in 1940, they did so under the banner of “Travail, famille, patrie,” (Work, family fatherland), happy to use state resources to support their idea of authentic Frenchmen — even as they criticized capitalism for providing benefits to people they didn’t view as French.

Unlike much of the European left, many conservatives proved willing to work with Nazis — something they later regretted — an association that tainted postwar European conservatism. When it came time to rebuild European politics after the war, therefore, it fell to center-left parties such as Labour in Britain, the Socialists in France and the SPD in Germany, which abandoned rigid Marxist doctrines, alongside the new center-right movement of Christian Democracy, which rejected traditional nationalism, to take up the challenge. This was the hour of the welfare state, supported by social and Christian Democrats, which encouraged social solidarity within a democratic and capitalist framework.


Despite this reality, linking socialism and Nazism to critique leftist ideas became a political weapon in the post-World War II period, perhaps unsurprisingly given that the Cold War followed directly on the heels of World War II. Scholars as diverse as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Hannah Arendt used the larger concept of “totalitarianism” to fuse the two. This formula made it easier for Americans to slip comfortably from considering the Soviet Union a wartime ally to recognizing it as an existential threat. Totalitarianism emphasized the structural similarities and violent practices of Nazi and Stalinist regimes.

This concept, however, proved controversial as an explanation of the origins or subsequent appeal of either communism or Nazism/fascism. Although Hitler and Stalin had cooperated in an effort to conquer Eastern Europe in 1939 to 1941, this was more a marriage of convenience than a byproduct of ideological synergy. Indeed, the two sides eventually fought a genocidal war against each other.

Austrian economist and future Nobel laureate Friedrich von Hayek added an extra layer to the conversation about socialism and Nazism with his 1943 bestseller, “The Road to Serfdom.” As a staunch free marketeer, Hayek was appalled by the rise of economic planning in democratic states, embodied by Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. Hayek warned that any government intervention in the market eroded freedom, eventually leading to some form of dictatorship.

Hayek was enormously influential across the globe within the rising conservative movement during the second half of the 20th century. He advised future leaders such as Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, and his book became foundational for the right. Hayek’s assertion that all government interventions in the economy led to totalitarianism continues to animate popular works such as D’Souza’s “The Big Lie,” reinforcing the idea that the welfare state is a gateway drug to genocide.

But while these ideas may make sense to free market purists, the history shows that it was the parties that arose in reaction to the Nazi horrors that built such welfare states. Denouncing their programs as “socialism” or warning of a tie between the two is nothing less than historical and political sophistry that attempts to turn effect into cause and victim into victimizer.

Historical analogies have a useful purpose to simplify and clarify, but they work best when used carefully. As manifest problems with global capitalism, as well as political gridlock, encourage a new hunger for fundamental political transformation, it is especially important that we understand the tragic decisions of the 1930s and their consequences in their full context, rather than simply transposing words from the past onto the debates of the present.

National Socialism preserved private property, while also putting the entire resources of society at the service of an expansionist and racist national vision, which included the conquest and murderous subjugation of other peoples. It makes no sense to think that the sole, or even the primary, negative aspect of this regime was the fact that it used state power to allocate financial resources. It makes as little sense to suggest that using state power to allocate some financial resources today will automatically result in the same dire consequences.

Historical “gotcha” threatens to reduce our political conversations to meaninglessness, and we should resist it. Debates over the proper role of the state in protecting citizens against the negative exigencies of the market are necessarily complex. Finding the proper balance of interests within a democratic political order depends on the measurement of results, not on the power of magic words to devalue competing ideas.

Ronald Granieri
Ronald J. Granieri is director of the Center for the Study of America and the West at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and director of research at the University of Pennsylvania's Lauder Institute

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.

Just like DPRK is an abbreviation of Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the proper name for North Korea. You must believe they are democracy.

The Nazi Party stood for the same things the Democrat Party does.....because they are both Karl Marx socialist parties.


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Government spending as a percentage of GDP averaged around 40% pre-war. Additionally (at least in the beginning) 80% of the budget was spent on social programs, not the hallmark of an "evil, right wing, capitalist economy." Sign in



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Workers Welfare Programs:

In the best passage of Government largess, the Nazi regime fostered a purified liberal concept to enhance the living standard of German citizens across all segments of society. In order to stimulate the spirit of integrity, comradeship and happiness, Adolf Hitler fanned numerous programs and instituted strict rules for officials to carry them in eternal way.

a) Highly Subsidized International vacation trips.

b) Between 1933-1938 Strength through Joy (KDF) movement Organized 134,000 theater and concert events for 32 million people. 2 million people went on cruises and weekend trips and 11 million went on theater trips.

c) Nazis ensured that every citizen had a Radio.

d) 5 day week.

e) Free Public Health.

f) Trade Unions were banned. All workers had to join German labor Front. Strikes for higher wages were banned. People who refused to work were imprisoned. With fall in Inflation, purchasing power increased and wages actually fell.

g) Large factories had to provide rest areas, cafeterias, dressing rooms, even playing fields and swimming pools

h) They also banned "lock outs" for industries. No "reverse strikes"for them either.

Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies

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1933-1945: In 1933 Hitler disbands the labor movement and strips Jews of citizenship. Jews, dissidents, and other minorities are put in concentration camps, where they are forced to work or killed outright. The Reich centralizes social programs and education as a means of control. The regime extends health insurance to retirees in 1941, and expands health care and maternity leave the following year. Commanding Heights : Germany | on PBS



During the 12 years of Hitler’s Third Reich, the National Socialists expanded and extended the welfare state to the point where over 17 million German citizens were receiving assistance under the auspices of the National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) by 1939, an agency that had projected a powerful image of caring and support. Welfare state - Wikipedia







The Nazi rule under Adolf Hitler in the 1930s and 1940s led to an improvement in medical care and old age provision largely financed by high taxes on the wealthy, and theft from Jews and the people of the conquered territories (Aly 2007, 7). The Viability of the European Social Model: The German Welfare State and Labor Market Reform











The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.

The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]

The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5] One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”

These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.Required remedial education for government school grads.

a. You have been mislead about the Nazis and the Communists: both are Leftist, both were birthed from Karl Marx, and the Communists, by every metric, were the worse and more dangerous. As the Democrat Party mirrors all of the aims of the communists, they need alter the public’s perception of the two socialist entities.

b. Not all Germans were Hitler supporters. Today’ subject gave his life to oppose Hitler.

c. While Franklin Roosevelt was on excellent terms with both Hitler and Stalin, when push came to shove, he turned America’s foreign policy, troops and treasure over to his fav, Joseph ‘Koba’ Stalin.



2. If you have never read a book, you will simply believe what the Left wants you to believe. Case in point:

"So…you’re a government school grad?

“Yes I am (and my wife and kids are too) and I'm not ashamed of it. “

Easy To Convince The Uneducated

what if they attack turkey, what do we do, Turkey is in the UN. Our obligation lies with them, so we get shot with our own weapons? too fking funny. the circular trap you're in is very obvious. First, I suspect you meant NATO, not the UN. Second, if they attack Turkey I'd be very surprised...

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3. Today’s un-birthday boy….

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Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com


4. Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.



5. "Admiral Wilhelm Canaris. The head of the German Secret Service told Earle there were many sensible German people feeling that Hitler was leading their nation down a destructive path. Admiral Canaris continued that an honorable surrender from the German army to the American forces could be arranged."
Wilhelm Canaris

First off, thanks for including my quote. I think of you often too. Second, Naziis are not socialists or leftists, they are nationalists. They outlawed and rounded up communists and socialists as soon as they took power. You do love that lie.

As for killing Hitler. What would have happened if Hitler was assassinated? Germany surrenders? Germany fights on under a new Nazi leader (Goering?)? We'll never know but I do appreciate you saying the Brits feared offending the Russians so obviously "Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior". Quite the leap of fantasy, even for you.

" Naziis (sic) are not socialists"


Did I mention that your lack of geopolitical knowledge is a result of government schooling, and dearth of reading?


Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.


1.'Thanks' to government schooling, the tool of Liberals, many have been taught that communism and Nazism differed in any way other than a late-stage hatred of each other, has been played for a fool

Both are maniacal, and both are Leftwing.



2. The great significance of the revealed Nazi concentration camps, the Holocaust, was that post-war, the Democrats/Progressives could no longer idolize and identify with the Nazis, Fascists......only the Soviet Communists.

And, along with Stalin, the Democrat media now pretended that the Nazis were actually Rightwing.....when even their name included 'socialist.'


"Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
Stood for every program the Democrat Party stands for.


3. So the Left did exactly what Orwell had the Big Brother folks do.....lie about the opposition. And Democrats continue in that mode.

American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin, ....

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1223





4. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Lenin, communist...Hitler, NationalSocialist..... "the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...."




5. Hitler and Stalin were allies up until June 21, 1941, Stalin provided the resources for the Blitzkrieg of Hitler, and both attacked Poland, one from each side.
September 1, 1939, Hitler attacked Poland....on September 17, Stalin attacks from the East. The Soviet radio transmitter in Minsk guided the Nazi bombers attacking Polish cities.
Newsreel footage showed the Red Army in Nazi helmets, marching side by side with the SS. One photo shows the hammer and sickle along side the swastika.

6. "As you may be able to guess from the Cyrillic writing accompanying it, it was a Soviet Swastika -- used by the Red Army in its early days. It was worn as a shoulder patch by some Soviet troops. The Swastika too was a socialist symbol long before Hitler became influential. Prewar socialists (including some American socialists) used it on the grounds that it has two arms representing two entwined letters "S" (for "Socialist"). So even Hitler's symbolism was Leftist."
HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST


Two Leftist programs, allies.




Have I mentioned that you have the intellectual acumen of Plum Pudding????



Consider it mentioned.



And proven.

Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?

Anyone who has been on political Twitter in the past decade has seen a version of this syllogism. Conservatives, seeking to escape the “fascist” and “Nazi” labels tossed at them by leftist critics since the 1960s, have turned the tables. Books such as Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” have noted that many leading fascists, such as Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, started out as socialists, just as many early 20th-century “progressives” embraced eugenic ideas ultimately linked to Nazi racist genocide. This connection has become a silver bullet for voices on the right like Dinesh D’Souza and Candace Owens: Not only is the reviled left, embodied in 2020 by figures like Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Elizabeth Warren, a dangerous descendant of the Nazis, but anyone who opposes it can’t possibly have ties to the Nazis’ odious ideas.

There is only one problem: This argument is untrue. Although the Nazis did pursue a level of government intervention in the economy that would shock doctrinaire free marketeers, their “socialism” was at best a secondary element in their appeal. Indeed, most supporters of Nazism embraced the party precisely because they saw it as an enemy of and an alternative to the political left. A closer look at the connection between Nazism and socialism can help us better understand both ideologies in their historical contexts and their significance for contemporary politics.

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The Nazi regime had little to do with socialism, despite it being prominently included in the name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. The NSDAP, from Hitler on down, struggled with the political implications of having socialism in the party name. Some early Nazi leaders, such as Gregor and Otto Strasser, appealed to working-class resentments, hoping to wean German workers away from their attachment to existing socialist and communist parties. The NSDAP’s 1920 party program, the 25 points, included passages denouncing banks, department stores and “interest slavery,” which suggested a quasi-Marxist rejection of free markets. But these were also typical criticisms in the anti-Semitic playbook, which provided a clue that the party’s overriding ideological goal wasn’t a fundamental challenge to private property.

Instead of controlling the means of production or redistributing wealth to build a utopian society, the Nazis focused on safeguarding a social and racial hierarchy. They promised solidarity for members of the Volksgemeinschaft (“racial community”) even as they denied rights to those outside the charmed circle.

Additionally, while the Nazis tried to appeal to voters across the spectrum, the party’s founders and initial base were small-business men and artisans, not the industrial proletariat of Marxist lore. Their first notable electoral successes were in small towns and Protestant rural areas in present-day Thuringia and Saxony, among voters suspicious of cosmopolitan, secular cities who associated both “socialism” and “capitalism” with Jews and foreigners.


This fear of social revolution and a sense that democracy, with its cacophony of voices and the need for compromises, would threaten their preferred social hierarchy gave Nazism its appeal with these voters — even if it meant sacrificing democracy. While Communists abetted the destruction of German democracy, seeing it as a way to eventually produce the revolution they wanted, the only German political party that consistently resisted Nazi arguments, the Social Democratic Party (SPD), offered another sign of the discontinuity between socialism and Nazism.

Those outside Germany who embraced Nazi ideas were also generally anti-leftists. When Frenchmen murmured “Better Hitler than [Socialist Party Leader and Prime Minister Léon] Blum,” they were well aware what National Socialism represented, and it was most emphatically not “socialism.” When many of those same Frenchmen set up the puppet Vichy government in 1940, they did so under the banner of “Travail, famille, patrie,” (Work, family fatherland), happy to use state resources to support their idea of authentic Frenchmen — even as they criticized capitalism for providing benefits to people they didn’t view as French.

Unlike much of the European left, many conservatives proved willing to work with Nazis — something they later regretted — an association that tainted postwar European conservatism. When it came time to rebuild European politics after the war, therefore, it fell to center-left parties such as Labour in Britain, the Socialists in France and the SPD in Germany, which abandoned rigid Marxist doctrines, alongside the new center-right movement of Christian Democracy, which rejected traditional nationalism, to take up the challenge. This was the hour of the welfare state, supported by social and Christian Democrats, which encouraged social solidarity within a democratic and capitalist framework.


Despite this reality, linking socialism and Nazism to critique leftist ideas became a political weapon in the post-World War II period, perhaps unsurprisingly given that the Cold War followed directly on the heels of World War II. Scholars as diverse as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Hannah Arendt used the larger concept of “totalitarianism” to fuse the two. This formula made it easier for Americans to slip comfortably from considering the Soviet Union a wartime ally to recognizing it as an existential threat. Totalitarianism emphasized the structural similarities and violent practices of Nazi and Stalinist regimes.

This concept, however, proved controversial as an explanation of the origins or subsequent appeal of either communism or Nazism/fascism. Although Hitler and Stalin had cooperated in an effort to conquer Eastern Europe in 1939 to 1941, this was more a marriage of convenience than a byproduct of ideological synergy. Indeed, the two sides eventually fought a genocidal war against each other.

Austrian economist and future Nobel laureate Friedrich von Hayek added an extra layer to the conversation about socialism and Nazism with his 1943 bestseller, “The Road to Serfdom.” As a staunch free marketeer, Hayek was appalled by the rise of economic planning in democratic states, embodied by Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. Hayek warned that any government intervention in the market eroded freedom, eventually leading to some form of dictatorship.

Hayek was enormously influential across the globe within the rising conservative movement during the second half of the 20th century. He advised future leaders such as Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, and his book became foundational for the right. Hayek’s assertion that all government interventions in the economy led to totalitarianism continues to animate popular works such as D’Souza’s “The Big Lie,” reinforcing the idea that the welfare state is a gateway drug to genocide.

But while these ideas may make sense to free market purists, the history shows that it was the parties that arose in reaction to the Nazi horrors that built such welfare states. Denouncing their programs as “socialism” or warning of a tie between the two is nothing less than historical and political sophistry that attempts to turn effect into cause and victim into victimizer.

Historical analogies have a useful purpose to simplify and clarify, but they work best when used carefully. As manifest problems with global capitalism, as well as political gridlock, encourage a new hunger for fundamental political transformation, it is especially important that we understand the tragic decisions of the 1930s and their consequences in their full context, rather than simply transposing words from the past onto the debates of the present.

National Socialism preserved private property, while also putting the entire resources of society at the service of an expansionist and racist national vision, which included the conquest and murderous subjugation of other peoples. It makes no sense to think that the sole, or even the primary, negative aspect of this regime was the fact that it used state power to allocate financial resources. It makes as little sense to suggest that using state power to allocate some financial resources today will automatically result in the same dire consequences.

Historical “gotcha” threatens to reduce our political conversations to meaninglessness, and we should resist it. Debates over the proper role of the state in protecting citizens against the negative exigencies of the market are necessarily complex. Finding the proper balance of interests within a democratic political order depends on the measurement of results, not on the power of magic words to devalue competing ideas.

Ronald Granieri
Ronald J. Granieri is director of the Center for the Study of America and the West at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and director of research at the University of Pennsylvania's Lauder Institute

"Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?"


Not a 1° of difference between Nazis and Bolsheviks.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.



a. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

b. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.

 

[alang1216]

Nazi is an abbreviation of NationalSOCIALISTWorker's Party....dope.

Just like DPRK is an abbreviation of Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the proper name for North Korea. You must believe they are democracy.

The Nazi Party stood for the same things the Democrat Party does.....because they are both Karl Marx socialist parties.


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Government spending as a percentage of GDP averaged around 40% pre-war. Additionally (at least in the beginning) 80% of the budget was spent on social programs, not the hallmark of an "evil, right wing, capitalist economy." Sign in



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Workers Welfare Programs:

In the best passage of Government largess, the Nazi regime fostered a purified liberal concept to enhance the living standard of German citizens across all segments of society. In order to stimulate the spirit of integrity, comradeship and happiness, Adolf Hitler fanned numerous programs and instituted strict rules for officials to carry them in eternal way.

a) Highly Subsidized International vacation trips.

b) Between 1933-1938 Strength through Joy (KDF) movement Organized 134,000 theater and concert events for 32 million people. 2 million people went on cruises and weekend trips and 11 million went on theater trips.

c) Nazis ensured that every citizen had a Radio.

d) 5 day week.

e) Free Public Health.

f) Trade Unions were banned. All workers had to join German labor Front. Strikes for higher wages were banned. People who refused to work were imprisoned. With fall in Inflation, purchasing power increased and wages actually fell.

g) Large factories had to provide rest areas, cafeterias, dressing rooms, even playing fields and swimming pools

h) They also banned "lock outs" for industries. No "reverse strikes"for them either.

Nazi Hitler Economic Social and Political Policies

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1933-1945: In 1933 Hitler disbands the labor movement and strips Jews of citizenship. Jews, dissidents, and other minorities are put in concentration camps, where they are forced to work or killed outright. The Reich centralizes social programs and education as a means of control. The regime extends health insurance to retirees in 1941, and expands health care and maternity leave the following year. Commanding Heights : Germany | on PBS



During the 12 years of Hitler’s Third Reich, the National Socialists expanded and extended the welfare state to the point where over 17 million German citizens were receiving assistance under the auspices of the National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) by 1939, an agency that had projected a powerful image of caring and support. Welfare state - Wikipedia







The Nazi rule under Adolf Hitler in the 1930s and 1940s led to an improvement in medical care and old age provision largely financed by high taxes on the wealthy, and theft from Jews and the people of the conquered territories (Aly 2007, 7). The Viability of the European Social Model: The German Welfare State and Labor Market Reform











The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt (NSV), meaning "National Socialist People's Welfare", was a social welfare organization during the Third Reich. The NSV was established in 1933,.... The NSV became established as the single Nazi Party welfare organ in May 1933.[1] .... the programme was massively expanded, so that the régime deemed it worthy to be called the "greatest social institution in the world." One method of expansion was to absorb, or in NSDAP parlance coordinate, already existing but non-Nazi charity organizations. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front.

The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under the Nazi concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[4]

The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[5] One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”

These social welfare programs represented a Hitlerian endeavor to lift the community above the individual while promoting the wellbeing of all bona fide citizens. As Hitler told a reporter in 1934, he was determined to give Germans “the highest possible standard of living.” National Socialist People's Welfare - Wikipedia

Hitler was such a devoted socialist that he had the socialists in the Nazi party executed. Night of the Long Knives

 

[alang1216]

"Did you know that “Nazi” is short for “National Socialist”? That means that Hitler and his henchmen were all socialists. Bernie Sanders calls himself a socialist, too. That means Bernie Sanders and his supporters are the same as Nazis … doesn’t it?"

Even you are smart enough to understand the differences between National Socialist and democratic socialist. You're just not honest enough to admit it.