The Gaza Starvation Lie

[Delldude]

It’s an Israeli-made famine…
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Nice kindergarten source not based on facts.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

This is an extremely limited point of view. Israel can control the entry of the aid. Currently there is NO RESTRICTION on the aid coming in. Israel does not control the distribution of aid within Gaza. (Except very recently with the GHF).

Israel does not warehouse aid in Gaza. Israel does not distribute aid in Gaza (GHF excepted). Israel does not sell aid to Gazans. Israel does not control the aid within Gaza. Remember, this is at the insistence of the UN with appeals to international humanitarian law.

Who controls the aid within Gaza? Where did 36,000 tons of aid to be delivered by the UN GO? Who is warehousing it? Who is selling it?

Bring Hamas, other armed gangs, and the people of Gaza into this conversation!

The COGAT data demonstrates the limited amount of aid going into the strip, especially during the total blockage Israel imposed this past spring. You know this.

The data also shows how much aid was making into the strip when Trump arrived and an actual humanitarian pause went into effect. Current aid delivery is a sliver of that. Israel controls the aid.

 

[Shusha]

The COGAT data demonstrates the limited amount of aid going into the strip, especially during the total blockage Israel imposed this past spring. You know this.

The data also shows how much aid was making into the strip when Trump arrived and an actual humanitarian pause went into effect. Current aid delivery is a sliver of that. Israel controls the aid.

I am perfectly willing to discuss. But we can't leave Hamas out of the conversation. Hamas, and other armed groups and clans control aid within Gaza. Do you deny this? Are you willing to at least include Hamas and these other groups in the conversation?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel controls the aid, the type and amount of it. This is not a mystery.

Israel can control the type and amount of aid delivered to Gaza, but at the present time there is no limit on the amount of aid that can be delivered.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The COGAT data demonstrates the limited amount of aid going into the strip, especially during the total blockage Israel imposed this past spring. You know this.

The data also shows how much aid was making into the strip when Trump arrived and an actual humanitarian pause went into effect. Current aid delivery is a sliver of that. Israel controls the aid.

At the present time Israel is not limiting the amount of aid that can go into Gaza.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

This is the legally correct view. Law isn't law if it doesn't apply universally.

Jim Crowe and Slavery were "legally correct". These are the statements from a member of a class that benefits from this what is essentially condemned as a unjust application of justice. Israel seemingly relishes taking advantaged of the lacks of rights afforded the stateless.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Jim Crowe and Slavery were "legally correct". These are the statements from a member of a class that benefits from this what is essentially condemned as a unjust application of justice. Israel seemingly relishes taking advantaged of the lacks of rights afforded the stateless.

All of this is nonsense. The so called Palestinians are committed to war against Israel until it is destroyed, and there is no rational alternative to protect Israel from attack other than pursuing this war until all the Gaza terrorists have been destroyed. If the Palestinians release the hostages and disarm, the fighting will stop and there will be no more impediments to delivering aid, but other than that, there are no good options for delivering adequate amounts of aid.

 

[Shusha]

Jim Crowe and Slavery were "legally correct". These are the statements from a member of a class that benefits from this what is essentially condemned as a unjust application of justice. Israel seemingly relishes taking advantaged of the lacks of rights afforded the stateless.

I am entirely unsure what position you are trying to argue from except some vague notion of justice.

Are you arguing that the Arab Palestinians living in Areas A, B, C and Gaza are stateless? If so, how did they become stateless? What made them stateless? What State is responsible for them and why?

Are you arguing for denying the Arab Palestinians the right to self-determination or for upholding it?

Are you arguing against Arab Palestinian self-governance under the Palestinian Authority and (until recently) Hamas? Are you arguing against any sort of Arab Palestinian self-government?

Are you arguing for Israeli application of sovereignty over the whole of the Mandate territory?

These are actual, genuine questions since you and I haven't interacted much on these boards. It feels to me that you are vaguely suggesting that Arabs non-citizens of Israel should be "treated differently (better)". What would that look like to you?

 

[gipper]

Nice kindergarten source not based on facts.

I dumbed it down for you.

 

[gipper]

This is a lie. There are no restrictions on aid going into Gaza. No one is preventing aid going into Gaza. No one is stopping aid going into Gaza.

The UN dashboard shows that more than 40,000 tons of food went into Gaza for UN programs in June and July. (Of which, only 20,000 was collected, and only 4,000 reached its intended destination).

The GHF dashboard shows 100 million meals delivered directly to those in Gaza in the same time period.

World Central Kitchen served ~2 million meals during that time (my calculations, no dashboard).

And there are other aid groups operating.


Now. This is not to say that there aren't food shortages in some locations. This is not to say that there isn't hunger and malnutrition in some locations. It is not even to say that the situation may be dire for many families. It is also not to say that there aren't fully operational coffee shops, restaurants, markets, and shops and that the middle class and wealthier are not experiencing food shortages. And it is still also not to say that flooding Gaza with so much aid that it no longer has value is not the moral thing to do, even if it hamstrings the military operations or delays them by another year (with all the consequences of that).

But there is NO FAMINE (a word with a specific legal definition) and NO STARVATION (also a word with a definition) of the population.


What breaks my noodle about you, and others, is that you feel compelled to tell bullshit fabrications. The situation is actually bad enough, really, really. Why the need for the lies?

A lying Zionist calls something a lie. Lol.

 

[schmidlap]

Gaza 'famine'. Pallywood in action. Just have common sense. He eats leaves, but he doesn't look like an famine victim at all.
He has a high-end smartphone, an internet connection and even a link in his bio to receive money.
May 12, 2025

Netanyahu's propaganda machine has collapsed.

Americans overwhelmingly oppose his relentless slaughter of innocent children, women, men, and medical and other humanitarian workers in Gaza.

Americans’ approval of Israel’s military action in Gaza has fallen 10 percentage points since the prior measurement in September, and it is now at 32%, the lowest reading since Gallup first asked the question in November 2023. Disapproval of the military action has now reached 60%...​

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Fifty-two percent of Americans now view Benjamin Netanyahu unfavorably...His favorable rating stands at 29%, ​

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Even the ineffectual Trump may be finally getting it.

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[ShahdagMountains]

This is what “starving” looks like:

Hamas publishes hostage video of starved Evyatar David | The Jerusalem Post

In the video, David can be seen crossing off days on a makeshift calendar hung up on the side of an underground Gaza tunnel.

www.jpost.com

 

[Shusha]

A lying Zionist calls something a lie. Lol.

Funny. Posting statistics from UN websites is me being a "lying Zionist".

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The world has recognized a Palestinian “state” more than 147 times.

 

[gipper]

This is what “starving” looks like:

Hamas publishes hostage video of starved Evyatar David | The Jerusalem Post

In the video, David can be seen crossing off days on a makeshift calendar hung up on the side of an underground Gaza tunnel.

www.jpost.com

Do you deny the Holocaust too?

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Do you deny the Holocaust too?

You’re too stupid.

 

[gipper]

You’re too stupid.

So yes? I thought so.

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Nice kindergarten source not based on facts.

Exactly

 

[gipper]

Exactly

Your genocidal nation has murdered 500,000 Palestinians. Your nation has dropped the equivalent of 8 Hiroshima bombs on Gaza. All on a strip of land considered the most population dense in the world.

I know you don’t consider Palestinians human (exactly as Nazis thought of Jews), but isn’t this overKILLL?

Why do you still support mass murder?

Look who you murdered today….

 

[the watcher]

The first causality of war is the truth. I would be very awkward for the US to admit to any wrongdoing, and not in Israel's interest. According to Bibi (and our press) it's not a lie if you believe it. You can find a "news source" that says what you want, that's the beauty of this country.