The first liberal court in two generations if HRC wins

[rightwinger]

No such thing as a classical liberal. Liberalism is a function of its time and the issues they face

Wrong. When one prefers government to enforce morality and thought, one cannot be liberal.

Government enforcing morality is not liberal?

Which world do you live in?

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.[1][2]

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

 

[rightwinger]

The first liberal court in two generations if HRC wins

another good reason to vote Trump

thanks for sharing dupe

Kind of tough that you nominated Trump isn't it?
You had an excellent chance of beating a weak Hillary in 2016 and then you chose Trump

 

[jon_berzerk]

The first liberal court in two generations if HRC wins

another good reason to vote Trump

thanks for sharing dupe

Kind of tough that you nominated Trump isn't it?
You had an excellent chance of beating a weak Hillary in 2016 and then you chose Trump

what really sucks is you guys put up a corrupt lying candidate

--LOL

 

[rightwinger]

Government enforcing morality is not liberal?

Which world do you live in?

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.[1][2]

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Irrelevant to the coming liberal court which will apply 21st century liberal standards

21st Century liberalism isn't liberal. It is progressive statism.

21st century liberals address new challenges that previous liberals never dreamed of.....a right to healthcare, gay rights, environmental protections

 

[rightwinger]

The first liberal court in two generations if HRC wins

another good reason to vote Trump

thanks for sharing dupe

Kind of tough that you nominated Trump isn't it?
You had an excellent chance of beating a weak Hillary in 2016 and then you chose Trump

what really sucks is you guys put up a corrupt lying candidate

--LOL

Yet, after 25 years of trying....you guys have never actually been able to prove that

 

[martybegan]

Wrong. When one prefers government to enforce morality and thought, one cannot be liberal.

Government enforcing morality is not liberal?

Which world do you live in?

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.[1][2]

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

 

[martybegan]

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Irrelevant to the coming liberal court which will apply 21st century liberal standards

21st Century liberalism isn't liberal. It is progressive statism.

21st century liberals address new challenges that previous liberals never dreamed of.....a right to healthcare, gay rights, environmental protections

Those are not "rights".

If you want them to be protected enumerated rights, add them to the constitution via the amendment process.

 

[rightwinger]

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Irrelevant to the coming liberal court which will apply 21st century liberal standards

21st Century liberalism isn't liberal. It is progressive statism.

21st century liberals address new challenges that previous liberals never dreamed of.....a right to healthcare, gay rights, environmental protections

Those are not "rights".

If you want them to be protected enumerated rights, add them to the constitution via the amendment process.

Of course they are.....if We the People determine them to be so

 

[rightwinger]

Government enforcing morality is not liberal?

Which world do you live in?

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.[1][2]

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

 

[martybegan]

No, it is not classically liberal. Classic Liberalism encourages freedom of expression and thought. Modern progressive Statism (under the cover of the word liberal) does not.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

 

[rightwinger]

No such thing as "Classical Liberalism"

The liberalism of our founders existed in the views and morals of the day.....nothing "classical" about it

They supported slavery, opposed the equal rights of women yet were still the greatest "liberals" of their day

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

 

[martybegan]

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Actually made up freedoms, but you won't have the balls to acknowledge that.

Progressives: Supporting the constitutional right to things not in the constitution, while suppressing rights actually found in the document.

 

[rightwinger]

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Actually made up freedoms, but you won't have the balls to acknowledge that.

Progressives: Supporting the constitutional right to things not in the constitution, while suppressing rights actually found in the document.

The 14th amendment is not made up
Equal protection under our laws is not made up

 

[Al Azar]

Some supported slavery, some didn't, but the ones that didn't realized that was a fight for another day, and the same could be said for women's suffrage. Hell, back then property requirements for the franchise were considered A-OK.

Their liberalism was based on the concepts of representative government, individual freedoms, and equality under the law. Things that are all under attack by modern progressive Statists.

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others. Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics, and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Moving away from representative government by using Courts to enforce their will on others.
The Constitution which was written by liberals established our Judicial Branch and resulting checks and balances

Away from individual freedom by forcing people to do things they don't want to, regardless of the minimal impact said refusal actually has

It is a function of belonging to a society that you will have to do some things you do not like to do. Our liberal Constitution gives you a means to regress


, and away from equality under the law by the constant balkanization of people via identity politics,

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

and the mentality of "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

Liberals have fought for equality under the law for women, blacks and gays

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Yes. The courts confirm our constitutional rights and freedoms, which are never subject to vote, in Congress or anywhere else.

 

[martybegan]

The courts have become too powerful, and have moved away from a strict constructional view of law.
And the use of government to make people do things they don't want to do has to be used only when an actual harm can be shown, not just hurt feelings or spending an aditional hour or so to find another baker.
"Liberals" also fight against religious freedom, 2nd amendment rights, and free speech rights, which are actuall in the document.

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Actually made up freedoms, but you won't have the balls to acknowledge that.

Progressives: Supporting the constitutional right to things not in the constitution, while suppressing rights actually found in the document.

The 14th amendment is not made up

The 14th amendment doesn't reference abortion, or gay marriage (or any marriage) or all the other crap you guys think it means.

 

[rightwinger]

Courts have become powerful because Congress has become irrelevant due to petty infighting

When you belong to a society, you are forced to do things you don't want to do. It comes with the territory.
I don't want to drive under 65 but it is a concession I make for functioning in a society

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Actually made up freedoms, but you won't have the balls to acknowledge that.

Progressives: Supporting the constitutional right to things not in the constitution, while suppressing rights actually found in the document.

The 14th amendment is not made up

The 14th amendment doesn't reference abortion, or gay marriage (or any marriage) or all the other crap you guys think it means.

Equal protection under our laws....a liberal benchmark

 

[martybegan]

Actually it's 75 with with 10 MPH buffer usually given. I bet you are one of those regulator idiots who does 65 in the left lane.

Courts have become more powerful because progressives have found out they can impose their will on others without having to convince them at the ballot box.

Actually, courts have become more powerful because liberals have found they will actually enforce our constitutional freedoms

Actually made up freedoms, but you won't have the balls to acknowledge that.

Progressives: Supporting the constitutional right to things not in the constitution, while suppressing rights actually found in the document.

The 14th amendment is not made up

The 14th amendment doesn't reference abortion, or gay marriage (or any marriage) or all the other crap you guys think it means.

Equal protection under our laws....a liberal benchmark

It depends on how you define equal.

 

[HenryBHough]

I loved it when "Bork" became the magical verb "To Bork". It worked for one side; it can work for another. Almost makes one wish for Hillary to win - Borking - as much an American cultural icon as Bullfighting in Spain!

 

[rightwinger]

I loved it when "Bork" became the magical verb "To Bork". It worked for one side; it can work for another. Almost makes one wish for Hillary to win - Borking - as much an American cultural icon as Bullfighting in Spain!

Robert Bork received a Congressional hearing.....why can't Garland?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Wikipedia is not a legitimate source for definitions, Marty.

Because it allows anyone to post what they think instead of what are traditional, accept facts, definitions, and terms.

Actually it is quite well vetted, and except for articles that are part of an edit war, can be trusted. What is wrong with the wikipedia definition of classical liberalism?

Actually it is nothing of the sort, marty. It is a place to begin nothing more.