The Filibuster MUST Go

[Lesh]

I like how the dems are laying this solely at the repubs feet.

It's not just the repubs holding it up. Dems have a sure fire way to raise the debt ceiling. You can just use your reconciliation, but you don't want to use it for that, you want to use it for the big spending bill coming down the line. So, if the debt ceiling isn't raised, it's as much your fault as it is the repubs.

Yeah, it sucks, but it's politics, and a game that the left would also play if the situations were reversed.

Having said that, if you do remove the filibuster, make it permanent. Don't want the dems trying to reestablish it should they find themselves in the minority.

"It's just politics"

Too bad your power game is going to cost the country

 

[Lesh]

McConnell says how important it is to raise the debt ceiling

And then says he won't allow a single GOP vote to do it...and won't even allow a vote!

He KNOWS how disasterous his actions are and doesn't give a shit

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

McConnell says how important it is to raise the debt ceiling

And then says he won't allow a single GOP vote do it...and won't even allow a vote!

He KNOWS how disasterous his actions are and doesn't give a shit

Exactly right. He is seen as sticking a thumb in the eye of Democrats. That's all that matters.

 

[Lesh]

Might have to get rid of it, just to preserve basic voting rights. How embarrassing for this country.

One more reason to nuke it

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'd prefer we first try going back to the form before the changes in the 70s.
The filibuster must hold the floor and speak. No breaks, no help, no sitting.
Bring the Senate to a full halt and speak, on TV, on the internet, for hours and hours.
How 'bout some o that old school governing?

The Democrats, who got rid of this rule, would never agree to this.

 

[M14 Shooter]

As long as Joe is president I don't care if you have both houses and the rest of the street.

^^^^
A willful demonstration of abject ignorance.
I applaud your sincerity.

 

[Crepitus]

Bet You Don't Know That GOP Is BLOCKING Vote On Debt Ceiling

They're not just refusing to vote to lift the debt ceiling, they're filibustering it. Yes, they really do want to blow up the economy so they can blame Democrats.

crooksandliars.com

So Mitch McConnell says the Debt Ceiling MUST be raised.

But he and all the GOP Senators are going to vote against it.

That's bad enough...but they are also FILIBUSTERING even the VOTE!

This has to stop.

Dem Senators have to remove that tool from these cynical bastards

"Own the libs" is the only republican party position.

 

[Crepitus]

The Democrats, who got rid of this rule, would never agree to this.

Gonna need to back that up.

 

[elektra]

Gotcha! Then all I said was:

I guess we are done here.

except of course, getting rid of the filibuster does not protect voting rights

It is funny how democrats want to get rid of the filibuster when they are the majority, yet in the past when they were the minority, the filibuster was a just tool.

Protecting voting rights? That is awfully vague and meaningless in regards to the history and use of the filibuster.

 

[Lesh]

except of course, getting rid of the filibuster does not protect voting rights

The GOP is FILIBUSTERING several voting rights bills

 

[elektra]

The GOP is FILIBUSTERING several voting rights bills

which bills, what is in the bills???

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What happens when you toss the filibuster and then the republicans take over power?

The Senate operates the way the Founding Fathers designed it to.

 

[Lesh]

The Senate operates the way the Founding Fathers designed it to.

Not the filibuster and not the way it is used

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not the filibuster and not the way it is used

I agree, which is why I said when it was going it would go back to the way the FF intended .

 

[Couchpotato]

AND?

Try putting qualified nominees up and they won't be filibustered.
Try putting actual legislation up and it won't be filibustered.
BUT, Don't be like Mitch
Propose legislation then filibuster your own legislation when you find Obama likes it.

The point being Lesh's selective outrage at the use of the filibuster, not that both sides dont (ab)use it.

 

[Rogue AI]

Being the most unpopular President in history can still get you 74 million votes. Biden is way ahead of that. So you might want to rethink.

In terms of unpopularity, Biden is just getting warmed up.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What happens when you toss the filibuster and then the republicans take over power?

Democrats rarely use the filibuster; it’s used by Republicans when they’re in the minority to thwart the will of the people.

Republicans excel at doing nothing and opposing necessary, proper, and Constitutional legislation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

except of course, getting rid of the filibuster does not protect voting rights

Of course it would, if it allowed legislation to do so. because the Democrats will pass it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

"It's just politics"

Too bad your power game is going to cost the country

It doesn't have to. The left could pass the debt ceiling bill with reconciliation. Problem averted.

 

[elektra]

Of course it would, if it allowed legislation to do so. because the Democrats will pass it.

How does getting rid of the filibuster protect the voting rights of the minority?