The fallacy of self defence by gun

[Blues Man]

The argument is the mere presence of a gun deters criminals. Yet fifty plus cops a year are shot and killed. 62 last year as one example.

Yet for civilians if they have a gun they are somehow instantly safer.

So tell me how many cops do you think would be shot if we disarmed them all?

More or less?

And no one is instantly anything. Guns are not magic just like gun laws are not magic. We have gun laws that both state and federal governments refuse to enforce

A gun can make a person more safe or less safe. it all depends on the person and it is that person's choice not yours.

 

[Blues Man]

It was displayed and accepted. Thank you, no need to concede more.

Keep making shit up if it makes you feel better.

 

[Captain Caveman]

When you can present a meaningful response to my post, let me know.
Until then, I continue accept your surrender.

Nailed it. And not only that, you are in a job that requires a qualification below what you achieved. That moves on that you have a below average EIQ, hence where you are at.

Your surrender and replies are very serendipity

 

[Captain Caveman]

So tell me how many cops do you think would be shot if we disarmed them all?

More or less?

And no one is instantly anything. Guns are not magic just like gun laws are not magic. We have gun laws that both state and federal governments refuse to enforce

A gun can make a person more safe or less safe. it all depends on the person and it is that person's choice not yours.

You wouldn't disarm all the cops. Certain officers would be properly trained in firearm use and these officers would be requested to appropriate situations. Just like in the UK.

But I suppose America have a lot of idiots with guns.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Nailed it. And not only that, you are in a job ...

When you can present a meaningful response to my post, let me know.
Until then, I continue accept your surrender.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Keep making shit up if it makes you feel better.

He is desperate for attention, and subconsciously believes he is only worthy of abuse.
That's why insulting people he disagrees with makes him feel good.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Moron....see post #174 for a very typical defensive gun use.....

What, the post where the Sheriff believes". Probably another encounter covered by the Harvard findings that it would fail reality and evidence. But thanks retard for your surrender.

 

[Captain Caveman]

When you can present a meaningful response to my post, let me know.
Until then, I continue accept your surrender.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Keep making shit up if it makes you feel better.

Your conceding continues.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Blimey, didn't realise how many gun nuts were so passionate to debunk gun reality. You gun nuts have it bad, but, there are parallels with guns as others can be with their religion.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I see you are uanble to present a meaningful response to my post, let me know.
Thus, I accept your surrender.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Blimey, didn't realise how many gun nuts were so passionate to debunk gun reality.

-You- proved guns in the US are 10x more likely to be used for self-defense than murder, and 5x more likelt than for suicide.
And you hate yourself for it.
Well done.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The mere presence of a gun - sometimes- deters criminals.
There. Fixed it for you.

SavannahMann accepts your surrender.

 

[Captain Caveman]

-You- proved guns in the US are 10x more likely to be used for self-defense than murder, and 5x more likelt than for suicide.
And you hate yourself for it.
Well done.

Thank you for your surrender

 

[MarathonMike]

I've always stated that needing a gun for self defence was a fallacy, and we all know it is. So what's with the gun nuts running off and copying pasting articles from shady sources?

Well look no further, just simply check with Harvard and the studies -

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Pardon the pun, Harvard blow holes in the gun nut's self defence argument.

So anyone arming up for the mistaken belief they need to for self defence against others, they're the worst candidate to own a gun.

You might want to find a less biased source than the Mecca of Libtardian Propaganda aka Harvard.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You might want to find a less biased source than the Mecca of Libtardian Propaganda aka Harvard.

Read about the overestimation of self defence if you wish -

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1144020

Then get back to me.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Thank you for your surrender

I'm sorry yoy don't like the fact you proved guns in the US are 10x more likely to be used for self-defense than murder, and 5x more likely than for suicide.
But you did.
Your surrender, accepted.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Read about the overestimation of self defence if you wish -

The VPC didn't overestimate their 100k/year figure - in fact, it was confirmed by your "Harvard study".
So, again, thank you for proving guns are 10x more likely to be used in self-0defense than murder, and 5x more likely than suicide.

 

[BlackSand]

I accept your surrender

(PS - I was told round here that you follow through by getting your private parts out. Whatever floats your boat, perv)

.

I surrendered nothing ... You offered nothing and got nothing in return.
Whatever you have been told amounts to nothing more than empty rhetoric.

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[Blues Man]

You wouldn't disarm all the cops. Certain officers would be properly trained in firearm use and these officers would be requested to appropriate situations. Just like in the UK.

But I suppose America have a lot of idiots with guns.

ALL officers are currently trained very well in the use of firearms.

I don't want cops with less training on the streets