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The facts of Trumpist allegations of Arizona Voter Fraud: Over 3 million votes cast; 182 problem cases; 4 charges; ZERO convictions.

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Yep, it was a protest, and Trump told those people protesting to do so peacefully, and to let their voices be heard only (nothing physical).

Of course their were those who were very compassionate about the election being alledgedly fraudulent, and I'm guessing that they were those who figured that the process had failed, and that the nation was being hijacked by bad actor's who alledgedly were stealing the nation, otherwise in order to do to it exactly what they've been doing to it, and right before the citizen's eyes currently.

What grade do you give Biden and company thus far ??

Those people who got rowdy on the 6th, probably figured that they were patriot's who weren't going to just stand by and allow the election to be given legitimacy if it was alledgedly stolen in their minds.

Problem for them however, is that the majority of the protesters weren't there to commit the acts that a few physically committed, but instead the majority (including Trump), were there just to lend their voices in protest about what was happening, and to symbolically show peaceful, yet political signs of their discontent about the whole thing or process.

It was wrong to become violent or disruptive, so they will get punished for that.

Now it would be nice to get clarification on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the election sooner or later.
Trump: "We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

Mob: "Invade the Capitol building!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol right now!" "Take the Capitol!"
 

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Trump: "We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Mob: "Invade the Capitol building!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol right now!" "Take the Capitol!"
Your interpretation, but doesn't mean that you are right in your analogy.

Having to show "strength" doesn't mean always showing physical strength, but it could mean the exact type of strength that Martin Luther King espoused. Otherwise show strength in Character, and so next Trump said in so many ways, go over there and be strong In your voices, and show strength in your character, but do so peacefully.
 

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Your interpretation, but doesn't mean that you are right in your analogy.

Having to show "strength" doesn't mean always showing physical strength, but it could mean the exact type of strength that Martin Luther King espoused. Otherwise show strength in Character, and so next Trump said in so many ways, go over there and be strong In your voices, and show strength in your character, but do so peacefully.
How else can you interpret that? Trump said they needed to show strength to take back their country and some in that crowd yelled out about taking the Capitol. Which they then attempted.
 

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“PHOENIX (AP) — Arizona county election officials have identified fewer than 200 cases of potential voter fraud out of more than 3 million ballots cast in last year’s presidential election, undercutting former President Donald Trump’s claims of a stolen election as his allies continue a disputed ballot review in the state’s most populous county.

An Associated Press investigation found 182 cases where problems were clear enough that officials referred them to investigators for further review. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person’s vote was counted twice.

While it’s possible more cases could emerge, the numbers illustrate the implausibility of Trump’s claims that fraud and irregularities in Arizona cost him the state’s electorate votes. In final, certified and audited results, Biden won 10,400 more votes than Trump out of 3.4 million cast.…

Arizona’s potential cases also illustrate another reality: Voter fraud is often bipartisan. Of the four Arizona cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.

AP’s review supports statements made by many state and local elections officials — and even some Republican county officials and GOP Gov. Doug Ducey — that Arizona’s presidential election was secure and its results valid.”


Only insane Trumpists believe this widespread voter fraud hoax. Trump and his minions are just running another scam for the benefit of his lemmings. The more they get the lemmings upset, the more money they send to Mar-a-lago.


What is ironic is that out of the 4 cases where charges were brought, 2 were Republican. You really can’t make this up.
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How else can you interpret that? Trump said they needed to show strength to take back their country and some in that crowd yelled out about taking the Capitol. Which they then attempted.
Your syllogism does not compute. "Showing strength" does not equate to rioting unless you're a brain-dead prog.
 
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Trump: "We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."
Mob: "Invade the Capitol building!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol right now!" "Take the Capitol!"
Thanks for demonstrating your inability to commit logic.
"You have to go home now. We have to have peace,” Trump said. “We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt.”
 

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Your syllogism does not compute. "Showing strength" does not equate to rioting unless you're a brain-dead prog.
LOLOLOLOL

You just called Trump's thugs, "brain-dead progs," because that was the message they heard when Trump told them to show strength to take back their country...

Trump: "We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong."

Mob: "Invade the Capitol building!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol!" "Take the Capitol right now!" "Take the Capitol!"
 

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Thanks for demonstrating your inability to commit logic.
"You have to go home now. We have to have peace,” Trump said. “We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt.”
LOL

Fucking moron, that's what Trump said hours later and after they stormed the Capitol. Why didn't he say that immediately as they began beating on police to breach the barricades?
 

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You stepped in it yet again, lil faun, the perv, and two of your leftard pals sitting in your "Amen" pew are wiping the same shit off of their cyber shoes.
LOLOL

Never forget this, dickless delusional dale... you're a flaming retard who's fucked in the head. It's not EB32 returns and EB33 files ... it's EV32 returns and EV33 files. And no, they don't show anything suspicious. Just like with the cyber ninjas, you don't know what you're talking about...





Dumbfuck... this is your idea of "circling the wagon," is it...?



You stepped in it yet again, lil faun, the perv, and two of your leftard pals sitting in your "Amen" pew are wiping the same shit off of their cyber shoes.
Rasmussen Reports
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More AZ Senate Audit Testimony: County records its mailed-out ballot data on form EB32, mailed-out ballots returned on form EB33. 74,243 more mailed ballots are reported as being received on EB33 than were mailed out on EB32. "Could be a clerical issue, we just don't know"


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The cry baby sore loser will persist in whining and lying, and his cult will continue to be turned on by the pathetic performance.
I think that leftards are simply pissed because they can't gloat over an election with results that are highly questionable and it galls them. Biden ran three times prior and couldn't get even 1 percent of support from the leftard clown posse.....but yet leftards foolishly believe that slow Joe Biden, he of the botched hair plugs actually got 81 million voters to support him......you betcha!


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You stepped in it yet again, lil faun, the perv, and two of your leftard pals sitting in your "Amen" pew are wiping the same shit off of their cyber shoes.

LOLOL

Never forget this, dickless delusional dale... you're a flaming retard who's fucked in the head. It's not EB32 returns and EB33 files ... it's EV32 returns and EV33 files. And no, they don't show anything suspicious. Just like with the cyber ninjas, you don't know what you're talking about...





Dumbfuck... this is your idea of "circling the wagon," is it...?



You stepped in it yet again, lil faun, the perv, and two of your leftard pals sitting in your "Amen" pew are wiping the same shit off of their cyber shoes.
Rasmussen Reports
@Rasmussen_Poll

More AZ Senate Audit Testimony: County records its mailed-out ballot data on form EB32, mailed-out ballots returned on form EB33. 74,243 more mailed ballots are reported as being received on EB33 than were mailed out on EB32. "Could be a clerical issue, we just don't know"



LOLOLOL

Poor, dickless delusional dale. WTF kind of post is that?? Is that supposed to be legible in your demented, backwards world? All the time you've been posting here and you still don't know how to use the quote function?


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Yep, it was a protest, and Trump told those people protesting to do so peacefully, and to let their voices be heard only (nothing physical).

Of course their were those who were very compassionate about the election being alledgedly fraudulent, and I'm guessing that they were those who figured that the process had failed, and that the nation was being hijacked by bad actor's who alledgedly were stealing the nation, otherwise in order to do to it exactly what they've been doing to it, and right before the citizen's eyes currently.

What grade do you give Biden and company thus far ??

Those people who got rowdy on the 6th, probably figured that they were patriot's who weren't going to just stand by and allow the election to be given legitimacy if it was alledgedly stolen in their minds.

Problem for them however, is that the majority of the protesters weren't there to commit the acts that a few physically committed, but instead the majority (including Trump), were there just to lend their voices in protest about what was happening, and to symbolically show peaceful, yet political signs of their discontent about the whole thing or process.

It was wrong to become violent or disruptive, so they will get punished for that.

Now it would be nice to get clarification on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of the election sooner or later.
In my opinion Joe Biden is doing a poor job as President.

The Mexican border fiasco is so bad it makes me wonder if the Democrats are getting kickbacks from the Mexican cartels. Americans are dying at an alarming rate from overdoses of fentanyl smuggled across the border. Plus we have no idea how many of the children who crossed the border will end up trafficked as sex slaves


More than 93,000 people died of a drug overdose in the U.S. last year — a record number that reflects a rise of nearly 30% from 2019, according to new data released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Officials said the increase was driven by the lethal prevalence of fentanyl as well as pandemic-related stressors and problems in accessing care.


I am also disappointed in how weak Biden seems to be when dealing with the Chinese, the Russians and the Iranians.

As far as his dementia issue Joe appears to have good days and terrible days. If he does go off the tracks Kamala looks incapable of taking over the Oval Office. Kamala doesn’t seem to like challenges and likes to do her best to avoid the problems Joe assigns to her.

I personally suspect the democrats and establishment Trump hating republicans rigged the election to stop Trump from draining the Swamp. Hopefully the audits will uncover the evidence of election malfeasance but if it is shown Trump did win I am not sure what will happen.

On the January 6th riots it wouldn’t surprise me if our corrupt FBI was involved in some of the planning. The riot smells like a Pelosi setup to make Trump and his supporters look bad and to allow many to be arrested and incarcerated.

Somewhat like the latest revealations on the kidnapping of the Michigan Governor plot the FBI stopped. It seems the DOJ and the FBI want to hunt down and incarcerate white supremacists even if they have to create some. Of course Antifa and BLM rioters are off limits.


The government has documented at least 12 confidential informants who assisted the sprawling investigation. The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism, laying out in often stunning detail the ways that anti-government groups network with each other and, in some cases, discuss violent actions.

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

A longtime government informant from Wisconsin, for example, helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another and the earliest notions of a plan took root, some of those people say. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

The Iraq War vet, for his part, became so deeply enmeshed in a Michigan militant group that he rose to become its second-in-command, encouraging members to collaborate with other potential suspects and paying for their transportation to meetings. He prodded the alleged mastermind of the kidnapping plot to advance his plan, then baited the trap that led to the arrest.
 

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I think that leftards are simply pissed because they can't gloat over an election with results that are highly questionable and it galls them. Biden ran three times prior and couldn't get even 1 percent of support from the leftard clown posse.....but yet leftards foolishly believe that slow Joe Biden, he of the botched hair plugs actually got 81 million voters to support him......you betcha!
Stop sniveling.

The Cry Baby Sore Loser lost, and his crapping on American democracy is not going to change the verdict of the American People.


Research on the issue of fraud is unequivocal: there is little to no evidence of voter fraud in recent U.S. elections, with most conspiracy theories about 2020 thoroughly debunked. U.S. courts ultimately rejected about 70 legal challenges to the election, according to the Stanford-MIT Healthy Elections Project. Moreover, methodologically rigorous studies find that double voting, non-citizen voting, and ballots cast on behalf of the deceased just don't happen much if at all — the estimated prevalence is often statistically indistinguishable from zero.
Pissy Boy threw a similar tantrump in 2016 when he whined that millions of invisible people all cast ballots against him, costing him s popular victory. Not one suspect could ever be found, of course.


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(Clinton, with 2.8 million more votes, graciously conceded immediately.)​

Loser's being far too insecure and morally depraved to summon a modicum of dignity in 2020 was far more repulsive for patriotic Americans when the Loser directed his goons to attack Congress.

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Yeah, now it is ashamed that so much swelling up took place, and then poof it didn't materialize in the courts, but look at what was happening to all the witnesses and their stories after signing affidavit after affidavit. One member of a hearing board said something like "ok soldier's, you know what to do". Now what kind of intimidation was that bullcrap ? Hopefully she lost her job big time on that note, and hopefully many more will soon follow suit if engaging like that as a public official.
I dont know what happened to the people that signed those affidavits but if it was something bad thats their fucking problem for lying or being conned into thinking something was fraud. What baffles me is why are these people so fucking stupid? The fat carnival barker suggested to them that if he lost then that meant there was fraud. Thats like a 3rd grade psychology trick. When he lost, that suggestion either made them see non existent fraud or they fucking lied. Personally I believe people that fucking stupid should be in prison.
 

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I think that leftards are simply pissed because they can't gloat over an election with results that are highly questionable and it galls them. Biden ran three times prior and couldn't get even 1 percent of support from the leftard clown posse.....but yet leftards foolishly believe that slow Joe Biden, he of the botched hair plugs actually got 81 million voters to support him......you betcha!


(snicker)
Biden was relatively unknown prior to being vice president

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