The End of ALL Entitlements

[Harpy Eagle]

Again, not an entitlement.

According to the GAO....Entitlement programs are either financed from Federal trust funds or paid out of the general revenues. Those paid out of the general revenues are income redistribution programs intended to address problems such as illness and poverty.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I still think that expanding Medicaid (which is an entitlement) to fill in for people who just don't have employer sponsored was a very bad idea. The gop supported increasing tobac taxes to cover children under Schips (or Chips). But here we are with Obamacare.

I'd have been all in for Sen Wyden and Hatch's proposal to tax healthcare providers, and use the revenue to fund tax credits for citizens who didn't have employer sponsored to buy private plans

That would simply increase the cost for healthcare for everyone. Dumb idea! Taxing corporations should never have been done because they pass the cost on to the consumer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

According to the GAO....Entitlement programs are either financed from Federal trust funds or paid out of the general revenues. Those paid out of the general revenues are income redistribution programs intended to address problems such as illness and poverty.

So the GAO gets to decide what is an entitlement? What is the definition of entitlement? It is something you are entitled to, and not a gift because you contributed to the cost of said program. If you did not contribute, you are not receiving it.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So the GAO gets to decide what is an entitlement? What is the definition of entitlement? It is something you are entitled to, and not a gift because you contributed to the cost of said program. If you did not contribute, you are not receiving it.

Well yes...since we are talking about Govt entitlements, the Govt gets to decide what is an entitlement

 

[jc456]

This was the best video I've watched in some time. At 12:34 of the video....75% of the black men left the home so black women could get "free money through welfare as long as no man lives in your home". Larry says it best!!!!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well yes...since we are talking about Govt entitlements, the Govt gets to decide what is an entitlement

So they changed the definition to suit their own needs. An entitlement is a right to something. No one has a right to welfare.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So they changed the definition to suit their own needs. An entitlement is a right to something. No one has a right to welfare.

In law, an entitlement is a provision made in accordance with a legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[bendog]

entitlement Definition, Meaning & Usage | Justia Legal Dictionary

entitlement - The state of having a legal or rightful claim to something

dictionary.justia.com

nothing's changed, but some got bigger (-:

essentially, a govt entitlement program is any law that sets forth eligibility for a program and defines what benefit it paid to those qualifying. It's called an entitlement because the govt can't change the program without passing a new law, AND a beneficiary can sue and force the govt to keep paying unless there is first a hearing where he/she can challenge the govt's decision to terminate his/her benefits.

 

[Resnic]

Very good. That is the type of response I am attempting to elicit (and failing to do so it would appear).

That's because you're trying too hard to sound insightful, savvy and highly intelligent and thus you're mudding up your question you want answered. Honestly I understand every word you say, but together they arent saying much. You're over complicating your question, and entitlement can mean a variety of things.

If you're trying to mimic fraiser crane then you're failing.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[frigidweirdo]

"Homeless" people are drug addicts, they're not homeless because they're poor, they're homeless because they spend every dime they pilfer from someone on drugs.

Some are... some aren't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In law, an entitlement is a provision made in accordance with a legal framework of a society. Typically, entitlements are based on concepts of principle ("rights") which are themselves based in concepts of social equality or enfranchisement.

As I said, they changed the definition from the original meaning, which is simply wrong.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Jarlaxle]

SS is not an "entitlement." It is a savings plan, a "trust fund" and a mechanism for dispensing money from the trust fund. FIT dollars are not involved.

An "entitlement" is a program created by government, by which tax dollars are granted to persons of a particular status or condition. Food stamps (or whatever they are called now), housing subsidies, public schools, welfare, Medicaid...these are all entitlements. Parenthetically, the USSC has ruled that once an entitlement is created by the State, it cannot be withheld from anyone due to their immigration status. This is bullshit, but it is the law.

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (that is, Congress) HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL POWER TO CREATE OR FUND ANY ENTITLEMENT. And often, Congress just sends much of the money to the States, and the entitlements themselves are administered and partly-funded by the States.

It would be interesting if some citizen sued Congress to require that Congress cease and desist funding entitlements, for Constitutional reasons. The citizen(s) would win, however, there would be several procedural roadblocks.

Uhh. No.