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Its a difficult question because there are innocent children involvedNot to be unkind, but you seem to be having some difficulty in getting people to understand what you mean by entitlement, and it's certainly not your making because some entitlements such as medicaid or food security don't have separate funding tax schemes, like Soc Sec and medicare.
Am I correct that your post would result in taxpayers would basically get out what they put into soc sec and medicare, but all other entitlements would simply cease to exist?
Those two are not entitlements. You didn't pay into those programs and not everyone gets those services. SS and Medicare if you pay in, you get those services.First. You talk of ending all entitlements. Old people would be unable to afford medicine. Young mothers would lose WIC assistance. School lunches for the poor would end.
People would turn to crime. They would rob and steal to provide for their kids, parents, or grand parents.
That would mean a lot of cops were needed. Those cops would make arrests and the jails would become so overcrowded that they had to release some. The events that happen now and the RW runs around with their hair on fire.
So you would need more cops. More jails. More of everything. So the whole due process of law would be curtailed. We don’t have time for long drawn out trials. We need to get the criminals into the new prisons we are building right? So we just curtail the whole process. Jury’s are a pain and not needed when we know they are guilty right?
Then the real problems begin. The rich can manage more rights than the poor and the poor do what they have always done in history. They rebel. So we get rid of rights to assemble. We get rid of all those pesky freedoms. This is to stop the poor from rising up.
We hire even more cops, which costs more money, and higher taxes again. We have to do this for public safety. We have to get tough on crime right?
Then the poor start shooting the cops. And others. Well we have to stop the wrong sort from having guns. We just have to. Those cities are dangerous. Good and decent people can’t go to work at the banks, and other good businesses.
Ten years. And you’ll be paying more taxes and living in a bunker with bars on the windows. Twenty years and we will either be a fascist nation or a socialist nation. Either way we all lose so you can get rid of something you don’t use so nobody should.
Do it. Hell I would love to watch when they line the fat cats up against the wall. I’m old enough that I probably won’t survive another ten years anyway.
You are too dumb to understand how anything works. All those entitlements you decry. They are drops of water to a man dying of thirst. To give the person a little help, and a little hope. So Grandma can afford the meds to let her live a little longer. To let a family provide more nutritious food for Junior while Dad and mom struggle to make ends meet.
These programs don’t cost half what the alternatives would cost. You want to imagine that people with nothing will just sit and endure being hungry. Have you ever really been hungry? Have you ever dove into a trash can for food? I did. In the Army. As part of my training. To learn what it was like. To experience the desperation. To see if we had the fortitude to continue with indescribable hunger gnawing at our insides.
That was temporary. That was a short term event. But one that gave me a hint of the importance of what we take for granted.
Your plan would destroy the nation. Your plan would cause massive social upheaval and the only answer your plan would embrace is getting tough. Get tough with the freeloaders. Get tough on the lazy slackers. Get tough with crime.
It hasn’t ever worked. But we can prove we will do it better. Somehow. Or something.
Medicaid and food security are like welfare, not entitlements.Not to be unkind, but you seem to be having some difficulty in getting people to understand what you mean by entitlement, and it's certainly not your making because some entitlements such as medicaid or food security don't have separate funding tax schemes, like Soc Sec and medicare.
Am I correct that your post would result in taxpayers would basically get out what they put into soc sec and medicare, but all other entitlements would simply cease to exist?
You know what would happen. The economy would crash instantly.Well, I'm looking for philosophical responses regarding the elimination of all entitlement program -- regarding country/cultural change in ten years. Specifics as to compensation is going astray from that.
Such as everything you babble. Ideologues are ideologues because they're stupid and need peer approval.
not hardly.
U don't get to make up facts, which is why you are a thread killer and idiot.Medicaid and food security are like welfare, not entitlements.
Not an entitlement. I don't think you know what an entitlement is!That would certainly be considered an "entitlement" to be eliminated (or never allowed).
You don't know what "means-tested is, do you? Try reading what you cite before embarrassing yourself.U don't get to make up facts, which is why you are a thread killer and idiot.
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You proved you don't know what entitlements are, so why should we comment any further?Entitlements facilitate denial -- denial of individual guilt in their own failings. They serve as distractions -- factories that create evasion, rationalization, and blame shifting (anything but unvarnished truth).
not hardly.
Entitlements are not someone else's money because it is YOUR money!Dueling definitions of survival, inflation, and life expectancy aren't the central issue. The central issue is self reliance. No one has a Constitutional right to someone else's money -- I don't care how badly they SAY they need it. Poverty and adversity are relative. Poverty isn't about driving around in an SUV while they complain about their financial struggles. Hunger isn't about a woman 50 pounds overweight standing before media cameras talking about how her children are going hungry. Take a "poor person" in this country and force them to live in the Sudan for six months. Then see if they still think they are poor. It's as the saying the saying goes -- I felt sorry for a man who had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet. If I want to help, that should be my business and mine alone. Can't make it? Well, you can serve as an example for others to learn from.
And I'm just trying to figure out what the OP thinks is an entitlement. LOLRight wingers make big noises about 'free markets' but we can note what govt. freebie stop losses they never ever snivel about as evidence they know they're full of shit.
The issue is that many people who are on programs like medicare and social security have already used.Not only every single penny they've ever paid into the programs, But every penny their children have paid into them as well.
If this were Inactive The vast majority of people on medicare and social security would immediately lose their benefits because they've already used up all the money they themselves have paid into it. Are they going to have to pay back the money that they used that was more than their personal contribution?
Also with this include corporate welfare as well. Are we going to ban all government subsidies to private interests And all government grants?
He is hopelessly confused.And I'm just trying to figure out what the OP thinks is an entitlement. LOL
These are the words of a government shill.
All you can come up with is dumb stuff? typical. You didn't do shit on your own. You were born into and benefited from a system you had squat to do with developing, it was entirely built by others before you. Sanitation systems, food networks, military and police defenses, etc. Now right wingers snivel all about how they shouldn't pay anything and how we need to destroy it all just to appease their silly infantile ideological fantasies. Move to Somalia if you hate govt. so much. Impress us all with your superior productivity n stuff.
I still think that expanding Medicaid (which is an entitlement) to fill in for people who just don't have employer sponsored was a very bad idea. The gop supported increasing tobac taxes to cover children under Schips (or Chips). But here we are with Obamacare.Its a difficult question because there are innocent children involved
They are not welfare bums until they become adults and repeat the mistakes of their welfare mom and absentee father
That requires much more thought
Again, not an entitlement.Let me add that I have no problem with donating money to help the homeless, and I have done so in the past (I've also donated my time). But you cannot help those who refuse to help themselves. A sizeable percentage of them live for nothing more than their next fix or their next drink. And, yes, still others are mentally ill. The problem with helping the mentally ill is that except in extreme cases, you cannot force help upon them. For the addicts, they die not from poverty but from willful, chronic misconduct. They die from stupidity and immaturity. And I reject that taxpayer money must be used to subsidize such behavior. A line must be drawn SOMEWHERE in the sand.
Since more republicans are on the lower end of the spectrum in the economy
^^^ This is the sniveling of a halfwit who has sucked ass his whole life and now pretends he's 'self made n stuff' on the innurnutz.
