The downed Air Force officer had more than a normal reason to be afraid of capture.

The "Well-They-Did-It" argument is erroneous. My neighbor kicking a kid in the face doesn't open some magical door that allows ME to kick a kid in the face.
Our goal is to be better than the criminal mind. Our goal is to follow a moral code, under the watchful eye of God. Our goal is NOT to lower our standards because others have or do.
We aren't kicking kids, we're removing vicious murderers. Iran's government is criminal and needs to be removed.
God approves.




Not even counting the murder of 32,000 protesters recently. You should be cheering Trump's regime change.
 
We aren't kicking kids, we're removing vicious murderers. Iran's government is criminal and needs to be removed.
God approves.




Not even counting the murder of 32,000 protesters recently. You should be cheering Trump's regime change.
America aborts over 1 Million kids each year. You may climb off of your moral high horse now. Your neocon rhetoric won't work on me.
 
So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?
What were the circumstances of these attacks though?

Did they just wake up one day in a blind rage and attack these folks or were there some mitigating circumstances? e.g. someone from another country phucking w/them in their country

Are you capable of being honest or some blind ideological idiot is all you're capable of being?
 
We aren't kicking kids, we're removing vicious murderers. Iran's government is criminal and needs to be removed.
God approves.




Not even counting the murder of 32,000 protesters recently. You should be cheering Trump's regime change.
Trump's government is criminal. And if he doesn't watch himself, he is going to be charged with war crimes.
 
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And he needs to be tried for treason and war crimes. If found guilty, he deserves the punishment reserved for traitors.

He was supposed to represent the people of the USA but, instead, he went to war at the behest of a foreign entity known for its genocidal disregard for life and for its history of terrorist activity. As a result, Americans have died and millions are suffering from the economic consequences of Trump's "war of choice." He not only put Americans under great economic strain but the entire world is suffering from his foolhardy and reckless and ill-planned "excursion" (as he so glibly calls it).

If he isn't demon possessed then he is a certified madman.
My opinion on Trump has drastically soured from what it once was - no amount of screaming, shouting, or insults will get me to change my opinion on that - I don't consider the soldiers involved in this illegal war "heroes" by any sense of words. Remember - the phrase "I was just following orders" has been used many times to justify war crimes throughout history.

You are correct in what you say.
 

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.


He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.
The only crime was your usual tedious cutting and pasting.
 
My opinion on Trump has drastically soured from what it once was - no amount of screaming, shouting, or insults will get me to change my opinion on that - I don't consider the soldiers involved in this illegal war "heroes" by any sense of words. Remember - the phrase "I was just following orders" has been used many times to justify war crimes throughout history.

You are correct in what you say.
Power and Water have always been a way to hurt the enemy in A war

They are Legit targets
 
Senator John McCain was a prominent and consistent opponent of the use of torture by the United States, a position deeply influenced by his own experience as a prisoner of war (POW) in North Vietnam, where he was brutally tortured.

That's awful!

Why did Dems support the country that brutally tortured John McCain?
 
The Republicans in Congress are such unbelievable cowards. They know Trump is mentally ill, but they are just going to let him continue this insane war.

It's time for the 25th Amendment to get rid of this lunatic.
Now that was pretty darn funny, but now would be a good time to wipe that unseemly drool from your keyboard.
 
What were the circumstances of these attacks though?

Did they just wake up one day in a blind rage and attack these folks or were there some mitigating circumstances? e.g. someone from another country phucking w/them in their country

Are you capable of being honest or some blind ideological idiot is all you're capable of being?

Did they just wake up one day in a blind rage and attack these folks


Yes.
 
And he needs to be tried for treason and war crimes. If found guilty, he deserves the punishment reserved for traitors.

He was supposed to represent the people of the USA but, instead, he went to war at the behest of a foreign entity known for its genocidal disregard for life and for its history of terrorist activity. As a result, Americans have died and millions are suffering from the economic consequences of Trump's "war of choice." He not only put Americans under great economic strain but the entire world is suffering from his foolhardy and reckless and ill-planned "excursion" (as he so glibly calls it).

If he isn't demon possessed then he is a certified madman.
Treason and war crimes? Lay off your binge watching of the fat cows on The View,
 
The problem is half of Trump’s Cabinet are lunatics.
Really? Which half? Name names and just why they are lunatics.

The White House is functionally an insane asylum.
So you thought Biden's cabinet was solid as gold? You know, the marxist, the illegal alien, the failed SC justice, the transvestite, the cross-dresser, the transsexual, and the guy who dressed up like a woman then headed to the airport to steal lady's luggage.

They all passed muster with you right?


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When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.


He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.
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So, it was okay when LBJ bombed roads, bridges, transportation networks, electrical generator plants, communication networks. and mined the bay in Haiphong. or Bush 43 doing the same to Iraq?
LBJ oversaw major bombing campaigns during the Vietnam War, most notably Operation Rolling Thunder (1965–1968).
Operation Shock and Awe 2003 Iraq War
Bombing infrastructure in wartime is not automatically illegal under international law. It depends on whether the target has military value, whether the attack is proportionate, and whether civilian harm is minimized.
 
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So, it was okay when LBJ bombed roads, bridges, transportation networks, electrical generator plants, communication networks. and mined the bay in Haiphong. or Bush 43 doing the same to Iraq?
LBJ oversaw major bombing campaigns during the Vietnam War, most notably Operation Rolling Thunder (1965–1968).
Operation Shock and Awe 2003 Iraq War
Bombing infrastructure in wartime is not automatically illegal under international law. It depends on whether the target has military value, whether the attack is proportionate, and whether civilian harm is minimized.
Berg is a recent graduate of the USMB law school. He majored in
Cut and paste.
 
So, it was okay when LBJ bombed roads, bridges, transportation networks, electrical generator plants, communication networks. and mined the bay in Haiphong. or Bush 43 doing the same to Iraq?


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OMG! The rat bastard is a WAR CRIMINAL. We gotta dig the SOB up right now and prosecute him.
 

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.


He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.


Bill Clinton bombed bridges that were mainly civilian use, but they then referred to them as "logistical infrastructure" because the Bosnian military could utilize them.
 
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