The downed Air Force officer had more than a normal reason to be afraid of capture.

[CowboyTed]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

Iranian people didn't wave that right...

 

[Doc7505]

47 never got over the fact Republicans chose Romney over him. He came in to destroy the Republican Party and so far he is doing a great job of it.

<~~~~~~~~~~>
You're so full of crap it's coming out your ears...
Donald Trump did not attempt a presidential run in 2012 against Mitt Romney. Instead, he publicly endorsed Romney and did not enter the race himself.
There is no evidence Trump attempted to mount a competing presidential bid in 2012. His involvement was limited to endorsing Romney and campaigning symbolically alongside him
Trump’s habit of teasing presidential runs — including in 2011–2012 — sometimes leads people to assume he challenged Romney. But in that cycle, he positioned himself as a supporter, not a rival.

 

[Doc7505]

That's just about the weirdest comparison I've ever seen.

Just imagine all those kids murdered because women don't want kids.
It's no wonder there's a decline in births.

 

[22lcidw]

AI Overview

Senator John McCain was a prominent and consistent opponent of the use of torture by the United States, a position deeply influenced by his own experience as a prisoner of war (POW) in North Vietnam, where he was brutally tortured.

Maybe Dubya's perspective on torture would have been different if he had gone to Vietnam instead of staying stateside, getting drunk, and snorting cocaine.

Progs have politicians who did not serve or served thousands of miles away who gave themselves military medals from any of the corrupted in the military who forwarded them.

 

[Mac1958]

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.

In all seriousness, I suspect this concept is simply over Trump's head. When he was asked yesterday about Iran charging tolls in the Strait of Hormuz, he was confused. He talked about US charging tolls, and he said, "we won, okay?", so he doesn't even understand that this isn't over. He is now LITERALLY existing within his own reality.

If he commits war crimes, all bets are off everywhere in the world. But I think he has already seen to that. This is pure global chaos.

 

[SaxonJackson]

That's just about the weirdest comparison I've ever seen.

I get it. Facts aren't your thing!

 

[ShahdagMountains]

It seems the first rescued pilot is now in Landstuhl..Germany.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

When War Crimes Rhetoric Becomes Battlefield Reality: The Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran​

“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!” posted President Donald Trump on Easter Sunday. In case one thought that was an impulsive utterance, it’s notable that the president in apparently prepared remarks a few days earlier said, “If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously.”

Such rhetorical statements – if followed through – would amount to the most serious war crimes – and thus the president’s statements place servicemembers in a profoundly challenging situation. As former uniformed military lawyers who advised targeting operations, we know the presidents’ words run counter to decades of legal training of military personnel and risk placing our warfighters on a path of no return.

Iranian power plants and other critical civilian infrastructure are protected from attacks by the law of war the United States helped craft after World War II. Such an object can lose its protection only if it is used for military purposes by the enemy and its destruction “offers a definite military advantage.” Even then, such an object can be attacked only if, after a case-by-case rigorous analysis, the “concrete and direct military advantage anticipated” outweighs the civilian suffering that is expected to result. (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I art. 52, art. 57; DOD Law of War Manual, § 5.6, § 5.12).

Despite those well-settled legal parameters, President Trump has repeatedly threatened to obliterate such infrastructure without regard to the law’s high demands. His comments are blatant expressions that he is willing to turn the United States into a rogue State like Iran and Russia, one that rejects the fundamental legal restraints that protect innocent non-combatants like children, and the Iranian civilian population itself.

War Crimes Rhetoric to Battlefield Reality: Slippery Slope to Total War on Iran

Former JAGs warn that threats to strike Iran’s power plants would violate the law of war and endanger U.S. service members’ legal and moral obligations.

www.justsecurity.org

He's a soldier for a country that has committed and recently threatened to commit war crimes. A country that bombed a school house (I believe accidentally) after a pronouncement by its Sec. of War that the rules of engagement have taken a secondary role to maximum lethality. A message that is easy to interpret as giving purpose to the deaths of those young schoolgirls.

Which is not to paint our enemies as innocent victims. Iran has committed atrocities of its own. Even against its own people.

But if you are a prisoner of war you are entitled to humane treatment. And you don't want your country to have given those holding you a pretense to mistreat you. John McCain understood that. As do the families of those who have served. Perhaps that's why our CIC has shown so little regard for the "losers" in uniform.

I hope the men and women in uniform heed the words of Mark Kelly and those who joined him to remind military personnel they can ignore illegal orders. Despite the regime's attempts to silence them.

War Crimes! War Crimes!
I knew the useful idiots would be told to think War Crimes! But I thought it would be closer to the midterms.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The problem is half of Trump’s Cabinet are lunatics. The White House is functionally an insane asylum.

Leftism is an insane asylum.

 

[berg80]

So does it matter that Iran has violated international law repeatedly since 1979? They and their proxies have incessantly attacked Israel and various other of its neighgbors. Can one say that they have WAIVED it right to claim international law?

Is that your way of justifying trump's threats to commit war crimes? And excuse him for the war crimes the US has committed at his direction?

Many, many previously abhorrent things have been normalized during the error of trumpery. I never thought war crimes would be one of them.

 

[berg80]

War Crimes! War Crimes!
I knew the useful idiots would be told to think War Crimes! But I thought it would be closer to the midterms.

When you say "told to think war crimes" it's as though thinking about war crimes isn't what people do when they've been committed or threats have been issued to commit them.

What we need to examine is why the blind followers of a war criminal isn't repulsed by them............and him.

 

[DonGlock26]

The Lefties are STILL upset that the pilot was rescued. They wanted a humiliating hostage crisis.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The Lefties are STILL upset that the pilot was rescued. They wanted a humiliating hostage crisis.

Like this?

 

[berg80]

The problem is half of Trump’s Cabinet are lunatics. The White House is functionally an insane asylum.

I think what can accurately be said about trump's collection of sock puppets is they have turned a blind eye to his lack of mental fitness to be the prez. He has lost control of his emotions as evidenced by the profanity laced tirade he wrote on Easter morning.

This is a time when we need informed, measured, carefully calculated decision making from the prez. While being advised by qualified staff who are not afraid to tell the prez when he is wrong. We don't have any of that.

 

[berg80]

In all seriousness, I suspect this concept is simply over Trump's head. When he was asked yesterday about Iran charging tolls in the Strait of Hormuz, he was confused. He talked about US charging tolls, and he said, "we won, okay?", so he doesn't even understand that this isn't over. He is now LITERALLY existing within his own reality.

If he commits war crimes, all bets are off everywhere in the world. But I think he has already seen to that. This is pure global chaos.

I just responded to a few trumples who were suggesting war crimes committed by the US are justified. Not surprisingly, they are exhibiting the same level of moral depravity as the man they unconditionally adore.

 

[Mac1958]

I just responded to a few trumples who were suggesting war crimes committed by the US are justified. Not surprisingly, they are exhibiting the same level of moral depravity as the man they unconditionally adore.

Yep. Essentially what I mean when I say I learned in 2016 that America isn't what I thought it was.

I would have sworn that we were better than this.

 

[22lcidw]

I just responded to a few trumples who were suggesting war crimes committed by the US are justified. Not surprisingly, they are exhibiting the same level of moral depravity as the man they unconditionally adore.

Who the hell are you? War crimes? You have divided our nation, and you have committed outright murders yourselves. We are in a constant state of war domestically. With people voting and not even understanding what is elected. Why would any citizen want to live in a potential powder keg community if they do not have to? You enact edicts and then whitewash them like with "defund the police". The real truth is, those who push this live their lives totally different and that is the red flag. The major one.

 

[martybegan]

Iranian people didn't wave that right...

The West has foolishly decided to let governments break international law with zero consequences. So we get long drawn out slow burn conflicts that end up killing more people over time than if we fought back hard when the other side doesn't follow the rules.

 

[22lcidw]

I just responded to a few trumples who were suggesting war crimes committed by the US are justified. Not surprisingly, they are exhibiting the same level of moral depravity as the man they unconditionally adore.

We live in a zero-sum society that is part of the Progressives handbooks on world domination. So, for Renee Good and Alex Pretti to do their crazy psychotic things as they were negatives to the GDP, we have to balance it out somewhere.

 

[berg80]

Yep. Essentially what I mean when I say I learned in 2016 that America isn't what I thought it was.

I would have sworn that we were better than this.

Until trump there were unwritten standards of behavior that were largely adhered to by every prez before him. There were lapses but they were typically met with a strong reaction to them by Congress, the public, or both.

It's hard to imagine a more disturbing violation of expectations for said behavior than a profane, Easter morning screed threatening to commit war crimes. Simultaneously shattering a number of taboo's. Met with subservient acquiescence by the minions.

The risk we run as a country is losing the ability to react in shocked disbelief out of shear fatigue from the chaos.