The "Donroe" doctrine.

Thank you for typing that. I was too lazy to get into the details of how China takes control of small fry countries.

Chinese play a game called "GO" which is a very slow and tedious and strategic game, unlike Chess where the "sacrifices, strategems, and blunders" happen much quicker as in war. I'm wondering if that is why the Chinese appear to play the very long game? Xi said he wants Taiwan by 2040. Ok, we should all live so long.

The "long game" has proven to be very beneficial to the Chinese, and part of its success for them has to do with weakness by others in confronting the fact the game is in play.

I minor example of that would be when President Trump met with Xi during his first term, and asked about the serious trade imbalance, as well as how in the world it had been allowed to go on for so long.

(Paraphrased) Xi answered, "No one told us to stop, or was serious about stopping us, so we just kept doing it." :auiqs.jpg:
 
It's "might makes right". Virtually overnight we have become an international bully, a predator nation.

It makes some people feel strong and in control for a change, but it's sad to see us become The Bad Guy when it's not necessary.
Trump is insanely jealous of foreign strongmen heads of state.

So this is how he soothes himself.
 
In this Trump era, might does make right. Which is what Stephen Miller is saying.

The law doesn’t matter to these people.

we can take Greenland if we want to because we are powerful. That’s all that matters.
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This is the part that has concerned me the most.

From conversations with European friends and family, it's clear that they gave us a pass for his first term, looking at it as a momentary lapse of judgement and emotional primal scream. But with his second election, they're now looking at Americans themselves as much as they're looking at Trump.

We are fully compicit in this, and we're complicit in how it affects our former friends and allies.

It's the old European expression: "Ugly Americans". The cat's fully out of the bag now.
Nobody cares about Europe anymore. They hitched their star to unlimited Muslim immigration and destroyed many of their nations' societies. They only recently stepped up to rebuild NATO and assist Ukraine until Trump forced the issue.
 
Nobody cares about Europe anymore. They hitched their star to unlimited Muslim immigration and destroyed many of their nations' societies. They only recently stepped up to rebuild NATO and assist Ukraine until Trump forced the issue.
The "nobody cares about Europe anymore", gives away a lot here. It's a sweeping statement to hide a personal moral problem.

What’s actually going on here is that you need to find a way to justify what Trump is doing. This story only works if Europe is portrayed as already lost.

If European societies are “destroyed,” then there’s no moral weight to threatening them, coercing them, or discarding alliances. If they broke faith first, then the U.S. bears no responsibility for acting like a bully.

That reframing isn’t an analysis of reality, it’s a way to avoid confronting the moral implications of endorsing force, intimidation, and collective punishment against allies.

The problem is that reality doesn’t cooperate with that story. Europe didn’t collapse. NATO wasn’t rebuilt out of fear of Trump. And pretending otherwise doesn’t make the consequences of this posture disappear, it just delays facing them.

The reality is that it’s the United States under Trump that is now openly threatening force, not against adversaries, but against long-standing allies that have stood with it for decades. That is a fundamental break from the post-war order the U.S. itself built and benefited from.

Recasting that shift as Europe’s failure, or blaming entire societies through sweeping and xenophobic generalizations, isn’t analysis , it’s a way to dull the moral discomfort that comes with endorsing coercion against partners rather than confronting the implications of that choice.

If “might makes right” is the standard being proposed, then it should be acknowledged honestly for what it is: the same logic used by Russia and China. Pretending it’s something else doesn’t make it principled, it just avoids owning it.
 
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The "long game" has proven to be very beneficial to the Chinese, and part of its success for them has to do with weakness by others in confronting the fact the game is in play.

I minor example of that would be when President Trump met with Xi during his first term, and asked about the serious trade imbalance, as well as how in the world it had been allowed to go on for so long.

(Paraphrased) Xi answered, "No one told us to stop, or was serious about stopping us, so we just kept doing it." :auiqs.jpg:
Why is there a need for the long game? When Trump is making it EXPLICIT that big nations simply have a right to take what they want.

After all that's Trump's position.

Let me make some predictions.

China will attack Taiwan. Likely before Trump's term ends.

The US won't lift a finger to defend them.

You will agree with that position.
 
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Its a bluff. The EU would be Putin's in days if the US military left. The EU needs NATO for survival.
Russia can't even take the Ukraine out. Despite trying for 3 years. It has the GDP of the Benelux countries.

You massively overestimate Russia's strength. But hey we know MAGA likes Russia more than it likes the allies of the US. Thanks for confirming.
 
Thank you for typing that. I was too lazy to get into the details of how China takes control of small fry countries.

Chinese play a game called "GO" which is a very slow and tedious and strategic game, unlike Chess where the "sacrifices, strategems, and blunders" happen much quicker as in war. I'm wondering if that is why the Chinese appear to play the very long game? Xi said he wants Taiwan by 2040. Ok, we should all live so long.
Why is there a need for the long game? When Trump is making it EXPLICIT that big nations simply have a right to take what they want.

After all that's Trump's position.

Let me make some predictions.

China will attack Taiwan. Likely before Trump's term ends.

The US won't lift a finger to defend them.

You will agree with that position.
 
Russia can't even take the Ukraine out. Despite trying for 3 years. It has the GDP of the Benelux countries.

You massively overestimate Russia's strength. But hey we know MAGA likes Russia more than it likes the allies of the US. Thanks for confirming.
You listen to no reasoning on many issues. Someone will tell you and it will go right over your head. So, Putin is a nationalist and perhaps a not a nice person. Western Europe is run by globalists and has adherents in the United States and many other nations of the planet. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are in much firmer control than we are currently. For some reason you who are anti-white and more than that hate whites, love the white people of Ukraine. ICE who you hate has other alphabet departments in our growing central Homeland Security police state. And they will use the same zeal on the common folk as we see with ICE who you say you hate when the time comes. The Patriot Act is used to destroy people. And it is used ironically for Maduro and wife.
 
Why is there a need for the long game? When Trump is making it EXPLICIT that big nations simply have a right to take what they want.

After all that's Trump's position.

Let me make some predictions.

China will attack Taiwan. Likely before Trump's term ends.

The US won't lift a finger to defend them.

You will agree with that position.
They support the trilateral idea: Russia gets what it wants, China gets what it wants, the new America gets what we want. Might makes right. If you don't like it, tough shit, we punch down.

It appears that Europe sees this. I hope your leaders are acting quickly.
 
They support the trilateral idea: Russia gets what it wants, China gets what it wants, the new America gets what we want. Might makes right. If you don't like it, tough shit, we punch down.

It appears that Europe sees this. I hope your leaders are acting quickly.
They're politicians. Acting quickly doesn't happen often if at all.

On the other hand, if this stuff doesn't light a fire under their asses nothing will.

In fact, unless I'm somehow brilliant. Something I'm pretty sure I'm not , if I can see the writing on the wall, people actually trained in this will see it too. So I'm pretty sure options are discussed in the halls of.power.
 
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Their politicians. Acting quickly doesn't happen often of at all.

On the other hand, if this stuff doesn't light a fire under their asses nothing will.

In fact, unless I'm somehow brilliant. Something I'm pretty sure I'm not , of I can see the writing on the wall, people actually trained in this will see it too. So I'm pretty sure options are discussed in the halls of.power.
There are no excuses for your leaders now. Venezuela was just the first major step. The was the door-opener. That's how he operates.

The world needs to get past the shock and confusion, and the hope that he/they will stop. This is getting real now. This is world history.
 
There are no excuses for your leaders now. Venezuela was just the first major step. The was the door-opener. That's how he operates.

The world needs to get past the shock and confusion, and the hope that he/they will stop. This is getting real now. This is world history.
As we discussed. The world is changing as we speak. I hope temporarily, I fear permanently.

The truth is though how and what is simply impossible to predict since there are so many moving parts.

What I am reasonable certain off is that few people will think the world on the other side will have changed for the better. This includes the people who are defending Trump at the moment.

It will be a poorer, more violent, and much more unstable one.
 
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You listen to no reasoning on many issues. Someone will tell you and it will go right over your head. So, Putin is a nationalist and perhaps a not a nice person. Western Europe is run by globalists and has adherents in the United States and many other nations of the planet. Canada, Australia and New Zealand are in much firmer control than we are currently. For some reason you who are anti-white and more than that hate whites, love the white people of Ukraine. ICE who you hate has other alphabet departments in our growing central Homeland Security police state. And they will use the same zeal on the common folk as we see with ICE who you say you hate when the time comes. The Patriot Act is used to destroy people. And it is used ironically for Maduro and wife.
I'm sure you think that what you're saying here makes sense.

But just as a reference it's just something you.think and not actually reality.
 
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Russia can't even take the Ukraine out. Despite trying for 3 years. It has the GDP of the Benelux countries.
You massively overestimate Russia's strength. But hey we know MAGA likes Russia more than it likes the allies of the US. Thanks for confirming.
Confirming that if Trump takes Greenland NATO isn't affected dumbass.
So if Russia isn't a threat we can bring our troops home ans save $50b a year, thanks!
 
Confirming that if Trump takes Greenland NATO isn't affected dumbass.
So if Russia isn't a threat we can bring our troops home ans save $50b a year, thanks!
Conflating the conflict in Ukraine and the Western response with the geopolitical consequences of taking Greenland for the NATO alliance makes just as much sense as thinking calling someone “dumbass” helps your argument, namely, none at all.

But I understand, you don’t have a moral, intellectual, or historical argument here, so you’re left to play the hand you’re dealt.
 
Conflating the conflict in Ukraine and the Western response with the geopolitical consequences of taking Greenland for the NATO alliance makes just as much sense as thinking calling someone “dumbass” helps your argument, namely, none at all.
But I understand, you don’t have a moral, intellectual, or historical argument here, so you’re left to play the hand you’re dealt.
Greenland has 30,000 residents, Denmark is not a military power, so has no effect on the NATO alliance, intellectual fact.
The "argument" for the US buying or taking Greenland is that it is in our national security interest, period.
Denmark doesn't "need" Greenland, they are protected by the US military umbrella, like the other non-military EU countries.
 
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