The Disconnect between the American Govt. and Its Citizens

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Illegal Immigration: 12 Steps to Effective Immigration Control
By Allan J. Ashinoff, The National Ledger

Unlike other issues which divide this nation, the issue of Illegal immigration has splintered the majority (pro-reform) from the minority (anti-reform). Unfortunately for the American people, illegal immigration has highlighted the ‘disconnect’ between the American government and it citizens. The issue of illegal immigration is less about charity or human kindness and more about national sovereignty, borders, and a nation’s purpose for existing.

The victims of illegal immigration are the American people. The influx of Mexicans across the southern border has increased as the legislature ponders and proposes bills which will in effect offer amnesty to some of the 12 million who have sneaked into the United States. Social programs designed to be a temporary safety net for American citizens are being exploited by illegals aliens. These social services and some social courtesies (medical) are being exploited to the extent that they are raising costs for working Americans and even shutting down services for those Americans they were created to assist.

Why is Congress, the Senate and the President considering the welfare of Mexican citizens before they listen to the will of the American people? Isn’t the welfare of the Mexican people the primary concern of the Mexican government? What responsibility is it of the American government to clothe, feed, educate, and care for an American let alone those who are in America illegally? When will the government recall its role in America and abide by the will of those who empower it and are supposed to provide its direction?

To fix illegal immigration permanently America needs to take and implement a compassionate and truly American approach.

First, catch illegals in the United States by monitoring the services they are exploiting.

Second, tally up the cost related to what the illegals have been stealing from American citizens and for how long (education, welfare, medical care, wages).

Third, deport the illegal aliens caught and deduct the cost of his/her/their existence in the United States from Mexico’s estimated 30 Million dollar foreign aid allotment.

Fourth, mandate that the government agency that apprehends and deports the Illegal aliens(s) receives 50% of the costs that will be reduced from the US foreign Aid to Mexico.

Fifth, build a border wall and man its length and its entry points with Air and National Guard Units.

Sixth, create a guest worker program.

Seventh, all federal state and local government MUST check for citizenship before providing ANY social service and detain and report those who are in the country illegally.

Eighth, create a smart green card/workers permit as a single form of identification for aliens (not a national ID for Americans).

Ninth, set reasonable immigration quotas for neighboring nations.

Tenth, those caught in the US and deported are never permitted to return.

Eleventh, repeal the 14th Amendment.

Twelfth, place economic sanctions on Mexico (entirely closing the border to trade or migration by force if necessary) when their foreign aid runs out and if they refuse to pay the bill for those we are continuing to catch and deport.

America has the upper hand in the immigration issue. America has the money, the jobs, and the military power to enforce her laws and protect her people’s sovereignty. The American government either lacks the will to deter illegal immigration or has an anti-American global agenda it’s trying to implement. America’s government should worry less about what the EU, the UN, or her neighbors think about tougher immigration policies and worry more about how much longer people will tolerate such a blatant disregard to its purpose for existence.

Allan J. Ashinoff is an Honorably discharged Veteran of the United States Navy.

© Copyright by NationalLedger.com
 
Adam's Apple said:
Illegal Immigration: 12 Steps to Effective Immigration Control
By Allan J. Ashinoff, The National Ledger

Unlike other issues which divide this nation, the issue of Illegal immigration has splintered the majority (pro-reform) from the minority (anti-reform). Unfortunately for the American people, illegal immigration has highlighted the ‘disconnect’ between the American government and it citizens. The issue of illegal immigration is less about charity or human kindness and more about national sovereignty, borders, and a nation’s purpose for existing.

The victims of illegal immigration are the American people. The influx of Mexicans across the southern border has increased as the legislature ponders and proposes bills which will in effect offer amnesty to some of the 12 million who have sneaked into the United States. Social programs designed to be a temporary safety net for American citizens are being exploited by illegals aliens. These social services and some social courtesies (medical) are being exploited to the extent that they are raising costs for working Americans and even shutting down services for those Americans they were created to assist.

Why is Congress, the Senate and the President considering the welfare of Mexican citizens before they listen to the will of the American people? Isn’t the welfare of the Mexican people the primary concern of the Mexican government? What responsibility is it of the American government to clothe, feed, educate, and care for an American let alone those who are in America illegally? When will the government recall its role in America and abide by the will of those who empower it and are supposed to provide its direction?

To fix illegal immigration permanently America needs to take and implement a compassionate and truly American approach.

First, catch illegals in the United States by monitoring the services they are exploiting.

Second, tally up the cost related to what the illegals have been stealing from American citizens and for how long (education, welfare, medical care, wages).

Third, deport the illegal aliens caught and deduct the cost of his/her/their existence in the United States from Mexico’s estimated 30 Million dollar foreign aid allotment.

Fourth, mandate that the government agency that apprehends and deports the Illegal aliens(s) receives 50% of the costs that will be reduced from the US foreign Aid to Mexico.

Fifth, build a border wall and man its length and its entry points with Air and National Guard Units.

Sixth, create a guest worker program.

Seventh, all federal state and local government MUST check for citizenship before providing ANY social service and detain and report those who are in the country illegally.

Eighth, create a smart green card/workers permit as a single form of identification for aliens (not a national ID for Americans).

Ninth, set reasonable immigration quotas for neighboring nations.

Tenth, those caught in the US and deported are never permitted to return.

Eleventh, repeal the 14th Amendment.

Twelfth, place economic sanctions on Mexico (entirely closing the border to trade or migration by force if necessary) when their foreign aid runs out and if they refuse to pay the bill for those we are continuing to catch and deport.

America has the upper hand in the immigration issue. America has the money, the jobs, and the military power to enforce her laws and protect her people’s sovereignty. The American government either lacks the will to deter illegal immigration or has an anti-American global agenda it’s trying to implement. America’s government should worry less about what the EU, the UN, or her neighbors think about tougher immigration policies and worry more about how much longer people will tolerate such a blatant disregard to its purpose for existence.

Allan J. Ashinoff is an Honorably discharged Veteran of the United States Navy.

© Copyright by NationalLedger.com
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Repeal the 14th amendment!?!?! Insanity

The 14th Amendment said:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age,(Changed by 19th amendment to include women and by 27th amendment to include ages 18-20) and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Nuts. Give up the definition of citizenship and its protections, allow traitors in the government, take voter fraud out of the Constitution. Crazy.
 
Mr.Conley said:
Repeal the 14th amendment!?!?! Insanity


Nuts. Give up the definition of citizenship and its protections, allow traitors in the government, take voter fraud out of the Constitution. Crazy.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr.Conley again.
 
Mr.Conley said:
Repeal the 14th amendment!?!?! Insanity


Nuts. Give up the definition of citizenship and its protections, allow traitors in the government, take voter fraud out of the Constitution. Crazy.

I don't think the writer of the article meant to repeal the entire 14th Amendment. I think what he had in mind was to change the wording of Section 1 of the amendment so that illegals who give birth to children in this country will not have given birth to American citizens. That is currently a bone of contention in the illegal immigration mess. If that's what he had in mind, I agree with him completely. There is no good reason why children born to illegal immigrants should be recognized as American citizens. The parents were not legal citizens of the U.S. at the time they gave birth to these children, so neither should the children be recognized as legal citizens just because they were given birth on American soil.
 
First, catch illegals in the United States by monitoring the services they are exploiting.

Second, tally up the cost related to what the illegals have been stealing from American citizens and for how long (education, welfare, medical care, wages).

Third, deport the illegal aliens caught and deduct the cost of his/her/their existence in the United States from Mexico’s estimated 30 Million dollar foreign aid allotment.

Fourth, mandate that the government agency that apprehends and deports the Illegal aliens(s) receives 50% of the costs that will be reduced from the US foreign Aid to Mexico.


I don't know that I've read a proposal on this matter that is more sensible, just, and in line with the realities of what motivates human behavior, than this one. Great find, Adam's Aplle - wish I could "point" you!
 
Mr.Conley said:
Repeal the 14th amendment!?!?! Insanity

Is it? Deliberately bastardized interpretation of XIV has given us the curse of judicial activism - a relentless attack on the devolution of power which was the clear intent of the founding fathers. I've seen purportedly intelligent, educated members of this very board post things like, "the question of states' rights was pretty well settled by the Civil War"; as if XIV somehow negates - or supercedes - X. This is madness.

If XIV cannot be clarified to a point which renders it safe from interpretive fantasy - of the type that gives us "anchor babies", or federal intrusion into matters that are the people's business - then I say, scrap it and start over.
 
musicman said:
First, catch illegals in the United States by monitoring the services they are exploiting.

Second, tally up the cost related to what the illegals have been stealing from American citizens and for how long (education, welfare, medical care, wages).

Third, deport the illegal aliens caught and deduct the cost of his/her/their existence in the United States from Mexico’s estimated 30 Million dollar foreign aid allotment.

Fourth, mandate that the government agency that apprehends and deports the Illegal aliens(s) receives 50% of the costs that will be reduced from the US foreign Aid to Mexico.


I don't know that I've read a proposal on this matter that is more sensible, just, and in line with the realities of what motivates human behavior, than this one. Great find, Adam's Aplle - wish I could "point" you!
Me too! :cry: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Adam's Apple again.
 

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