"The courts have all of a sudden, out of nowhere, they said, maybe you have to have trials"

[whitehall]

Trials for whom? Should we have a trial for every illegal alien who wades half way across the Rio Grande before we shut the gates?

 

[WEATHER53]

Applying for sanctuary is not a crime.

There are criteria and there is no actual official sanctuary procedure like for asylum

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trials for whom? Should we have a trial for every illegal alien who wades half way across the Rio Grande before we shut the gates?

Due process hearings are not trials.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Neither Clinton, Obama or Biden had trials before their deportations

 

[WEATHER53]

Due process hearings are not trials.

There are no hearings entitled Due process Hearings . Due process is multi layered

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There are no hearings entitled Due process Hearings . Due process is multi layered

Not in this case.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I still don't understand how you give "due process" to MILLIONS of people who cannot legally identify themselves.

 

[JimH52]

Due process hearings are not trials.

trump and his maga cult always speak to extremes to impair the truth. trump is a champion manipulator and liar.

 

[kyzr]

There are no hearings entitled Due process Hearings . Due process is multi layered

Step-1 get a hearing date
Step-2 get deported

There are only two steps to "Remain in Mexico".

 

[excalibur]

WRONG!

In 1903, the Court in the Japanese Immigrant Case reviewed the legality of deporting an alien who had lawfully entered the United States, clarifying that an alien who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population could not be deported without an opportunity to be heard upon the questions involving his right to be and remain in the United States. In the decades that followed, the Supreme Court maintained the notion that once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders.

Eventually, the Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law. The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection. Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress’s indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-8-7-2/ALDE_00001262/

Congress formed immigration courts for that purpose, and BIA for appeals. That is their due process.

Some 99+% only face deportation, they aren't being denied life, liberty, or property and thus no violation of the 5th or 14th Amendments.

Elsewhere, under the AEA, SCOTUS merely said they are entitled to a petition for habeas should they ask for a hearing.

 

[struth]

Congress formed immigration courts for that purpose, and BIA for appeals. That is their due process.

Sone 99+% only face deportation, they aren't being denied life, liberty, or property and thus no violation of the 5th or 14th Amendments.

Elsewhere, under the AEA, SCOTUS merely said they are entitled to a petition for habeas should they ask for a hearing.

What I have been so struck by since Trump took office, was how ignorant Dems are to basic civics

Literally, I’ve seen Dems shocked to find out the DOJ is part of the executive, and that the constitution vest all executive power in a president…to not even knowing what the executive branch does!

Now they don’t know the difference between art 2 and art 3 courts…think you have a right to a visa or green card, didn’t realize it could be revoked, and think everyone in every case gets the same amount of due process

 

[WEATHER53]

Not in this case.

Like libs babbling about money who have no money, you ti comment and hang your hat on a Due Process definition that does not exist and a benefit to non citizens that does not exist

 

[struth]

Due process hearings are not trials.

What is a due process hearing?

 

[WEATHER53]

What is a due process hearing?

It’s another mumble stumble by lib loons making it up as the go and being incorrect

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not in this case.

Can you show us all the due process hearing Clinton, record setting deporter Obama or Biden allowed?

 

[struth]

It’s another mumble stumble by lib loons making it up as the go and bring incorrect

Right, this is the same clown that not to long ago had no idea that the DOJ was part of the Executive Branch and a seperate but co-equal branch of the Judicial branch.

He thought the AG worked for the Courts. It was comical, but sad.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I still don't understand how you give "due process" to MILLIONS of people who cannot legally identify themselves.

That is only your problem.

 

[JimH52]

That is only your problem.

They were even given the chance. Just kidnapped off the street.

 

[excalibur]

They were even given the chance. Just kidnapped off the street.

 

[BULLDOG]

There are criteria and there is no actual official sanctuary procedure like for asylum

Thanks for the correction. Perhaps I chose the wrong word.