trump has some curious views about this country's laws.

[CrusaderFrank]

Did the "migrants" that Obama deported get due process?
DID OBAMA GIVE THEM DUE PROCESS????????
Fuck off with your GASLIGHT DOUBLE STANDARD BULLSHIT, STALINBERG!!!!!!!!

Obama was the greatest Progressive Constitutional Scholar EVAH!! He never even attended a single class at Harvard Law before being elected President of Law Review

 

[SeaMajor7]

Obama was the greatest Progressive Constitutional Scholar EVAH!! He never even attended a single class at Harvard Law before being elected President of Law Review

His school was in Jakarta, Indonesia learning the Example of Mohammed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

His school was in Jakarta, Indonesia learning the Example of Mohammed.

I’m convinced that Obama was a test to see how gullible Americans have become

 

[SeaMajor7]

I’m convinced that Obama was a test to see how gullible Americans have become

That, and then there was the Plandemic...

 

[struth]

From Judge Wilkinson.......

It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order.

Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.
The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13.Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25900477/25-1404-ruling.pdf

Wilkinson's ruling speaks directly to trump's false claim the government gets to ignore the right to habeas corpus.

Hey dumbass if the govt doesn’t have the body it can’t produce the body.

 

[struth]

Did Garcia or any of the other men he was deported with get a hearing date on the specific matter of their deportation?

Yes Garcia has a hearing date back in 2019 and ordered deported

 

[WorldWatcher]

If you are in the US illegally, you get a hearing date and then get deported.

That is how "Remain ion Mexico" works.

You are conflating two separate issues.
1. Non-criminal illegals can be deported via Remain in Mexico

Remain in Mexico is current US policy.

There is no "Remain in Mexico" program anymore.

Mexcico said "No" and yes it take both countries to agree to hold illegals in Mexico.''

And given Trump's tarrifs, I doubt Mexico would be open to reinstating it any time soon.

WW

Mexico rejects any effort to reinstate 'remain in Mexico' policy for asylum-seekers

Mexico is rejecting any effort to reinstate the Trump-era 'remain in Mexico' policy for asylum-seekers.

abcnews.go.com

 

[kyzr]

There is no "Remain in Mexico" program anymore.
Mexico said "No" and yes it takes both countries to agree to hold illegals in Mexico.''
And given Trump's tariffs, I doubt Mexico would be open to reinstating it any time soon. WW

Your link is from 2/2023. Trump and his tariff policies have reinstated the Remain in Mexico policy, using tariffs as a "stick" works well.

Homeland Security reinstates Remain in Mexico policy

(The Center Square) – After President Donald Trump issued several executive orders related to border security on his first day in office, the Department of Homeland Security began implementing them

www.thecentersquare.com

"On Tuesday, DHS next announced it was immediately reinstating Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy, officially known as the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP)."

 

[WorldWatcher]

Your link is from 2/2023. Trump and his tariff policies have reinstated the Remain in Mexico policy, using tariffs as a "stick" works well.

Homeland Security reinstates Remain in Mexico policy

(The Center Square) – After President Donald Trump issued several executive orders related to border security on his first day in office, the Department of Homeland Security began implementing them

www.thecentersquare.com

"On Tuesday, DHS next announced it was immediately reinstating Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy, officially known as the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP)."

Correct, in 2023 Mexico said they would not accept reinstatement of the Remain in Mexico policy.

Mexico said no, without their agreement there is no Remain in Mexico. Can you show where they have changed this stance?

Given Trump's treatment of Mexico (and the world) with his Tarriff War, I highly doubt they are going to be open to being a Human Storage Facility for the US.

WW

 

[Cellblock2429]

From Judge Wilkinson.......

It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order.

Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.
The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13.Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25900477/25-1404-ruling.pdf

Wilkinson's ruling speaks directly to trump's false claim the government gets to ignore the right to habeas corpus.

/----/ "residents of this country "
Democrat gaslighting term for illegal alien.

 

[SeaMajor7]

From Judge Wilkinson.......

It is difficult in some cases to get to the very heart of the matter. But in this case, it is not hard at all. The government is asserting a right to stash away residents of this country in foreign prisons without the semblance of due process that is the foundation of our constitutional order.

Further, it claims in essence that because it has rid itself of custody that there is nothing that can be done. This should be shocking not only to judges, but to the intuitive sense of liberty that Americans far removed from courthouses still hold dear.
The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13.Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25900477/25-1404-ruling.pdf

Wilkinson's ruling speaks directly to trump's false claim the government gets to ignore the right to habeas corpus.

"Residents of this country"????????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa

That's HILARIOUS.

 

[struth]

There is no "Remain in Mexico" program anymore.

Mexcico said "No" and yes it take both countries to agree to hold illegals in Mexico.''

And given Trump's tarrifs, I doubt Mexico would be open to reinstating it any time soon.

WW

Mexico rejects any effort to reinstate 'remain in Mexico' policy for asylum-seekers

Mexico is rejecting any effort to reinstate the Trump-era 'remain in Mexico' policy for asylum-seekers.

abcnews.go.com

Yeah, xiden blew that program we had with Mexico when he put his surge rhe border program

 

[berg80]

/----/ "residents of this country "
Democrat gaslighting term for illegal alien.

The term "residents" was used intentionally because even though they are not citizens they are entitled to constitutional protections.......LIKE DUE PROCESS.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The term "residents" was used intentionally because even though they are not citizens they are entitled to constitutional protections.......LIKE DUE PROCESS.

/----/ What due process was used when Dementia Joe flew them in?

 

[Seymour Flops]

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Bovine Scatology...!

Entering the U.S. illegally is grounds for deportation. Individuals who are caught entering the country without permission may face removal proceedings and, in some cases, expedited removal.

The Deportation Process for Illegal Entry​

The deportation process for individuals who entered the U.S. illegally typically follows these steps:

1. Notice to Appear (NTA): If you’re caught by ICE or another immigration enforcement agency, they may issue a Notice to Appear (NTA). This document starts the deportation process by formally charging you with being in the U.S. unlawfully.
2. Immigration Court Hearings: After receiving an NTA, you’ll need to appear in immigration court in front of an immigration judge. The judge will decide whether you are eligible to remain in the U.S. or whether you should be removed. This process can involve multiple hearings and the presentation of evidence.
3. Deportation Order: If the judge decides that you are deportable, they will issue a removal order. Once this order is issued, you can either appeal the decision or comply with the order by leaving the country.
4. Voluntary Departure: In some cases, individuals can request voluntary departure. This allows you to leave the U.S. on your own terms, rather than being forcibly deported. Voluntary departure might be a better option because it avoids a formal deportation record, which can make it easier to return to the U.S. legally in the future.

Grounds for Removal: Why Can You Be Deported?​

The most common reason for deportation is being unlawfully present in the U.S., which means you entered the country without a visa or overstayed a visa. However, there are other reasons why you could be deported, including:

• Criminal Convictions: Certain crimes, especially aggravated felonies, can lead to removal even for those with legal immigration status.
• Fraud: If you obtained entry into the U.S. or immigration benefits through fraud or misrepresentation, you may be deported.
• Public Safety Concerns: Individuals who pose a threat to public safety may be targeted for deportation by ICE.

So, what should we do when a person fails to comply with an NTA?

 

[berg80]

/----/ What due process was used when Dementia Joe flew them in?

I assume you think that reply was clever. It wasn't. It was a monument to your inability to deal with the issue intelligently. Making you a fool.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I assume you think that reply was clever. It wasn't. It was a monument to your inability to deal with the issue intelligently. Making you a fool.

/----/ What due process was used when Dementia Joe flew them in is a perfectly legitimate question you refuse to answer.

Let me educate you:
To enter the U.S. legally, most foreign nationals need a visa, either a nonimmigrant visa for temporary stay or an immigrant visa for permanent residence. The process involves several steps, including determining eligibility, filing an application with the U.S. Department of State (.gov) or USCIS (.gov), and potentially attending an interview.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Determine Eligibility and Visa Type:

• Immigrant Visas:
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  These are for permanent residence (Green Card) and require a sponsor (family member or employer) to file a petition on your behalf.
  
  
• Nonimmigrant Visas:
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  These are for temporary stays (tourism, work, study, etc.) and require you to demonstrate that you will leave the U.S. after your visit.
  

2. File an Application:

• • Immigrant Visas:
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    The sponsor files a petition with USCIS (Form I-130 for family-based immigration, Form I-140 for employment-based immigration).
    
  • Nonimmigrant Visas:
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    You apply directly to the U.S. Department of State through the DS-160 form.
    

3. Receive Approval:

• • Immigrant Visas:
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    Once USCIS approves the petition, you can then apply for an immigrant visa at a U.S. embassy or consulate.
    
  • Nonimmigrant Visas:
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    The U.S. Department of State reviews your application and makes a decision.
    

4. Interview (If Required):

• • Both immigrant and nonimmigrant visa applicants may be required to attend an interview.
    

5. Enter the U.S.:

• • You must present yourself at a U.S. port of entry (airport, border crossing) with your valid visa and passport.
  • A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officer will review your documents and make a decision about whether to allow you to enter.

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[struth]

The term "residents" was used intentionally because even though they are not citizens they are entitled to constitutional protections.......LIKE DUE PROCESS.

Like Garcia had, when he had a hearing in 2019.

But Congress has outlined the type of Due Process requirements for illegals....see the the Clinton Immigration reform bill for example, in some cases due process is simply getting reviewed by a lower level immigration agent.

 

[Rigby5]

Tell it to Elion Gonzalez. His mother died taking him to freedom in America from Cuba and Clinton's gestapo sent him back. Criminal aliens who entered the U.S. illegally can be deported without hearings. Every administration did it but only republicans get blamed.

Wrong.
None of the immigration statutes are or legally can be criminal.
They are merely regulatory infractions.

There was no authority to keep Elion Gonzalez in the US because the only remaining parent wanted him back with him in Cuba.

No administration ever deported anyone against their will, without a hearing.
The only time hearings are not necessary is when deportation is voluntary.

 

[Rigby5]

None of the ten million deported by Clinton, Bush, Obama or Biden got trials

Wrong.
The only people deported who did not get hearings were those who agreed to voluntarily deport.
Trump is the only one to every deport without consent or hearing.