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No. Building a new, better AF-1 is NOT a waste.
The costs of Air Force One
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No. Building a new, better AF-1 is NOT a waste.
Lewdog
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Yep, Trump should just buy the next AF-1 at Walmart. That would be a great plan!
Divine Wind
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He can just let Pence take charge from the White House while he's riding around the country in his own airplane or on Amtrak.
Manonthestreet
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Now compare man hrs to build a Virginia vs a 747 I for one am grateful someone recognizes an obvious con job
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A blast from the past.....
‘We’re the Only Plane in the Sky’
Ari Fleischer: I’d never heard the word "decapitation attack" before, but people like Andy, who had been there during the Cold War and had the training, he knew what was going on. The training and the thinking of the military and the Secret Service is just so profoundly different, but that was the psychology and mood that took hold aboard Air Force One. There are still missiles out there and the Secret Service says to the president, “We don’t think it’s safe for you to return to Washington.”
‘We’re the Only Plane in the Sky’
Ari Fleischer: I’d never heard the word "decapitation attack" before, but people like Andy, who had been there during the Cold War and had the training, he knew what was going on. The training and the thinking of the military and the Secret Service is just so profoundly different, but that was the psychology and mood that took hold aboard Air Force One. There are still missiles out there and the Secret Service says to the president, “We don’t think it’s safe for you to return to Washington.”
HenryBHough
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Now we see what happens when the love for spending collides with the hatred for President Trump.
Hilarious!
Hilarious!
blastoff
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You're apparently old enough to have lost some of your marbles.
Bush didn't fly around for a few days after the 9/11 attack. He addressed the nation that night from the Oval Office. Or I guess it could have been from the studio where they faked the moon landings instead.
Lewdog
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I think there is an issue at stake here that people are ignoring. Trump's tweet really hurt Boeing's stock value. He now has the power to hurt companies by making tweets like this. This is government business he shouldn't be sharing that isn't set in stone. What's to stop him from telling his buddies at Goldman Sachs to buy Boeing stock low now, and that he isn't going to really cancel the contract later? Therefor the stock goes back up and they make lots of money? There are laws against doing stuff like this.
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He isnt going to cancel the contract......he simply isnt going to pay 2 billion per plane
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more from the previously posted link:
Dave Wilkinson: He fought with us tooth and nail all day to go back to Washington. We basically refused to take him back. The way we look at is that by federal law, the Secret Service has to protect the president. The wishes of that person that day are secondary to what the law expects of us. Theoretically it’s not his call, it’s our call.
Eric Draper: As a group, you had Tom Gould, Andy Card, and a couple Secret Service guys saying you couldn’t return to Washington. He was visibly frustrated and very angry. I was just a few feet away, and it felt like he was looking through me. It was really intense. He just turned away in anger.
Karl Rove: Gould came in and said, “Mr. President, we don’t have a full fuel load. We’ve got too many extraneous people on board. We can’t loiter over Washington if we need to.” He suggested, let’s get to a military base, drop off the unessential personnel, fill up with fuel, and reassess. The president got the argument, but he wasn’t happy about it.
Dave Wilkinson: He fought with us tooth and nail all day to go back to Washington. We basically refused to take him back. The way we look at is that by federal law, the Secret Service has to protect the president. The wishes of that person that day are secondary to what the law expects of us. Theoretically it’s not his call, it’s our call.
Eric Draper: As a group, you had Tom Gould, Andy Card, and a couple Secret Service guys saying you couldn’t return to Washington. He was visibly frustrated and very angry. I was just a few feet away, and it felt like he was looking through me. It was really intense. He just turned away in anger.
Karl Rove: Gould came in and said, “Mr. President, we don’t have a full fuel load. We’ve got too many extraneous people on board. We can’t loiter over Washington if we need to.” He suggested, let’s get to a military base, drop off the unessential personnel, fill up with fuel, and reassess. The president got the argument, but he wasn’t happy about it.
Divine Wind
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How is a "tweet" any different from him saying it at press conference?
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Losing my marbles due to age is a strong possibility. As it is, you are correct. After flying to both Louisiana and Nebraska, Air Force One did, indeed, return to DC.
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I must have confused the Bush's movements with those of Cheney. Thanks for the correction.
Lewdog
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It doesn't matter if it is in a tweet or a press conference. It will get picked up regardless. Do you know how many followers he has on Twitter? 16.9 million. His Tweets might as well be broadcast live on CNN, MSNBC, HLN, and Fox News simultaneously.
Even he knows how much influence his tweets have.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Dec 5If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen!
Another thread on this.
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The Secret Service IS NOT going to let him do that.
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You didn't read the linked article, didja?
Fine. Hillary saved money using her own private server. Let Trump use Trump One and see what happens.
Unlike government servers, hers wasn't hacked. Trump can't use his plane.
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Did read the article and if you think 2 bill is fair price I've got some used cars to sell ya......You didn't read the linked article, didja?
Fine. Hillary saved money using her own private server. Let Trump use Trump One and see what happens.
It's $1.7B for the 'program.' Keeping in mind that an 'off the shelf' 747-8 is $500M, is $1.7B overpriced for two CUSTOM 747-8's?
Divine Wind
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The point being that just because he used Twitter doesn't mean anything. Yes, the President of the United States of America has influence, even a President-elect. Even so, it's the stock shareholders who cause stocks to rise and fall, not someone commenting about them.
It doesn't matter if it is in a tweet or a press conference. It will get picked up regardless. Do you know how many followers he has on Twitter? 16.9 million. His Tweets might as well be broadcast live on CNN, MSNBC, HLN, and Fox News simultaneously.
Even he knows how much influence his tweets have.
If the press would cover me accurately & honorably, I would have far less reason to "tweet." Sadly, I don't know if that will ever happen!
Divine Wind
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Prove it. Agreed.
Still talking about stuff you know nothing about.
Nope, can't get away from fighter jets.
