The 'Classified' Documents DOJ / FBI Raid Targeted ARE ALREADY UNCLASSIFIED...& They Knew It

[Marener]

why isn’t it binding? there were no national security risk. The docs were all stored and guard by armed federal agents

District court decisions aren’t binding precedent. One district court can’t tell another district court how to rule. An appeals court binds a district court. A Supreme Court binds an appeals court.

Precedent only works from a higher court to a lower court.

Any classified document outside the government control is a security risk.

 

[struth]

District court decisions aren’t binding precedent. One district court can’t tell another district court how to rule. An appeals court binds a district court. A Supreme Court binds an appeals court.

Precedent only works from a higher court to a lower court.

Any classified document outside the government control is a security risk.

any court can overrule a decision. It’s case law that the court should follow though on this law

the govt was guarding the documents…federal agents were

 

[Marener]

any court can overrule a decision. It’s case law that the court should follow though on this law

the govt was guarding the documents…federal agents were

Wrong. Lower courts cannot overrule a higher court.

The prior case isn’t applicable since it didn’t deal with a similar circumstance.

The documents were not under control of the government. Trump was in control of those documents. That makes it a national security risk.

 

[struth]

Wrong. Lower courts cannot overrule a higher court.

The prior case isn’t applicable since it didn’t deal with a similar circumstance.

The documents were not under control of the government. Trump was in control of those documents. That makes it a national security risk.

sure a lower court can…

same circumstances

the docs were guarded by federal agents

 

[Marener]

sure a lower court can…

same circumstances

the docs were guarded by federal agents

You can claim they were guarded by federal agents, a claim you can’t back up.

But it’s irrelevant.

The documents were not in the control of the government. Period. Nothing you said changes that fact.

 

[bripat9643]

It was about Clinton.

Not Trump.

So it’s completely irrelevant.

No federal court has ruled that Trump can make these classified documents personal property and it would be insane to think that make sense.

It was about presidential records, dumbfuck.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that rules on presidential records that apply to Clinton don't apply to Trump? Court don't issue rulings that are only applicable to specific individuals.

Only a prog could be this stupid.

 

[struth]

You can claim they were guarded by federal agents, a claim you can’t back up.

But it’s irrelevant.

The documents were not in the control of the government. Period. Nothing you said changes that fact.

there were secret service agents guarding the property

 

[bripat9643]

Prior presidents haven’t done what Trump is doing.

No judge is going to accept that these documents were personal documents as defined by the PRA.

We've already established that prior president have done what Trump did.

 

[Marener]

Court don't issue rulings that are only applicable to specific individuals.

Yes they do.

Any federal court would smack down any attempt by Trump to claim these were personal documents.

Well, maybe not that fruit loop Eileen Cannon because as we’ve just seen she’d ignore any legal precedent and any law to help out Trump.

 

[Marener]

there were secret service agents guarding the property

Do you claim the documents were under control of the government?

Simple yes or no.

 

[bripat9643]

The very important differences are serious national security risks.

Clinton’s case isn’t relevant to these concerns and isn’t even binding precedent.

You're trying to conflate to separate things: presidential records, and classified documents.

 

[struth]

Yes they do.

Any federal court would smack down any attempt by Trump to claim these were personal documents.

Well, maybe not that fruit loop Eileen Cannon because as we’ve just seen she’d ignore any legal precedent and any law to help out Trump.

what legal precedent do you think she ignored?

 

[bripat9643]

Yes they do.

Any federal court would smack down any attempt by Trump to claim these were personal documents.

Wrong.

Well, maybe not that fruit loop Eileen Cannon because as we’ve just seen she’d ignore any legal precedent and any law to help out Trump.

In other words, your claim is wrong.

 

[struth]

Do you claim the documents were under control of the government?

Simple yes or no.

i said they guarded it and had complete access to the documents

 

[bripat9643]

Do you claim the documents were under control of the government?

Simple yes or no.

When?

 

[bripat9643]

District court decisions aren’t binding precedent. One district court can’t tell another district court how to rule. An appeals court binds a district court. A Supreme Court binds an appeals court.

Precedent only works from a higher court to a lower court.

Any classified document outside the government control is a security risk.

Unless a higher court overturns then, they yes they are binding precedent.

 

[Marener]

When?

When they were sitting in Trump’s house.

 

[Marener]

Unless a higher court overturns then, they yes they are binding precedent.

Wrong. A district court does not bind another district court.

 

[Marener]

i said they guarded it and had complete access to the documents

In that case you’re factually wrong.

And you still failed to answer the question.

 

[Marener]

Wrong.



In other words, your claim is wrong.

It’s not wrong. No one in their right mind like think these classified documents could rationally be considered personal documents as defined by the PRA. You’re not even pretending they could.