The Civil War

[there4eyeM]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg

Ended in name only. Then came the reality of it.

And then the shameful Jim Crow laws.

Wars don't usually really solve problems. Mostly, they create more.

 

[fncceo]

Some were, but they were ALL from the same country, idiot.

Come on, you're dying to call people names for pointing out your flaws in logic.

It's OK, I don't mind. It just means you're starting to realize you don't make any sense.

I don't need an excuse to call people like you names. But this time, I'll resist.

Don't hold yourself in ... you'll explode. You go, girl!

 

[fncceo]

Wars don't usually really solve problems.

Sometimes they do ...

 

[there4eyeM]

Wars don't usually really solve problems.

Sometimes they do ...

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Your illustration only underlines what the quoted post tries to say. Attacking symbols looks dramatic, but what does it bring of substance? We still have "rightists" like the Nazis. And who defeated Germany? Stalin? There's a big advance for you!

 

[fncceo]

And who defeated Germany?

I think these guys had something to do with it..

 

[there4eyeM]

And who defeated Germany?

I think these guys had something to do with it..

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Not taking anything away from them, just stating that having the Wehrmacht destroyed and having the Soviet Army take its place isn't qualitative improvement.

 

[bripat9643]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg

The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?

Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.

Nonsense. It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).

No it wasn't, turd. It may have been US property, but it was still part of the territory of South Carolina and governed by the laws of South Carolina. I know that now we're going to have a long debate where you try to argue that property is the same thing as territory, but of course you will lose. Try buying a house in Mexico and then telling the local police that you don't have to follow Mexican laws.

 

[bripat9643]

We could call it "Illexit", short for illegal exit from the Union.

There's no such thing..

 

[bripat9643]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

It actually was not a Civil War. The Confederacy was not trying to win control of the federal government. They just wanted to be left alone. It also wasn't all about slavery. A significant number of Union states still had slavery, moron. I could spend all day tearing your claim into pieces, but I have better things to do.

Hey, when the Civil War began, slavery was legal in much of the United States. But as I've posted elsewhere, a civil war is "a war between citizens of the same country." The definition does NOT include the ambition to overthrow the government, or the desire to be left alone. It's a war between citizens of the same country, period.

Actually, the definition does include the ambition to overthrow the government, especially when we're talking about a confederation of states.

AFter the confederaate states seceded, they were no long part of the United States, so your definition doesn't apply

A civil war is not about trying to win control of the federal government. As far as I can find, a civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." What definition do you claim?

The Confederate states were not part of the United States.

 

[bripat9643]

The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.

That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.

 

[TW2020]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

Had nothing to do with slavery. The south was paying slaves, housing and free health care. They even were offered reparations. Slavery was ending

 

[Unkotare]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg

The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?

Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.

Complete and total lie.

 

[Unkotare]

The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.

That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.

The Supreme Court says you are full of shit, stupid.

 

[Unkotare]

It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.

It wasn't a war between the states?

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They've been lying to us in school all those years.

A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.

Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.

Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.

 

[bripat9643]

It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.

It wasn't a war between the states?

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They've been lying to us in school all those years.

A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.

Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.

Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.

Prove it.

 

[bripat9643]

The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.

That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.

The Supreme Court says you are full of shit, stupid.

You mean the Supreme Court packed with Lincoln appointees?

<YAWN!>

 

[Unkotare]

It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.

It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.

A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.

Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.

Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.

Prove it.

It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very site, you stupid piece of shit.

 

[bripat9643]

The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?

The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg

The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?

Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.

Complete and total lie.

Did Lincoln invade Virginia?

Why yes he did.

 

[Unkotare]

The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.

That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.

The Supreme Court says you are full of shit, stupid.

You mean the Supreme Court packed with Lincoln appointees?

<YAWN!>

Oh, so when you don’t like the supreme court it’s not legitimate? So today you are a Democrat, right? Right? Right?

 

[bripat9643]

It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.

It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.

A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.

Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.

Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.

Prove it.

It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.

You haven't proved jack shit.