The Civil War

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
 

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The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg
The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?
Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.
Complete and total lie.
Did Lincoln invade Virginia?

Why yes he did.
Absolutely and positively not. You cannot invade your own country. The criminal scum who tried to destroy our nation were eventually given a tiny fraction of what they deserve the punishment. You are a similar kind of scumbag fucking worthless dog and you deserve much worse, but again we will show forbearance.
 

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The states all signed on to a Perpetual Union. The only legal way to leave would be by modifying the Constitution. That would, necessarily, require a resounding majority of states. The "South" decided to try extra-legal measures. It didn't work.
That ended when they tore up the articles of Confederation and signed the Constitution. Nothing in the Constition says it has to be amended for a state to leave.
The Supreme Court says you are full of shit, stupid.
You mean the Supreme Court packed with Lincoln appointees?

<YAWN!>
Oh, so when you don’t like the supreme court it’s not legitimate? So today you are a Democrat, right? Right? Right?
The SC is never legitimate. Occasionally ir rules correctly, but it has no authority to decide what the Constitution means.
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
 

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
It wasn't U.S. soil, nimrod.
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
Clearly you have not, you ignorant douche.
 

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The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg
The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?
Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.
Complete and total lie.
Did Lincoln invade Virginia?

Why yes he did.
Absolutely and positively not. You cannot invade your own country. The criminal scum who tried to destroy our nation were eventually given a tiny fraction of what they deserve the punishment. You are a similar kind of scumbag fucking worthless dog and you deserve much worse, but again we will show forbearance.
It wasn't Lincoln's country, nimrod. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman all deserved to be tried as war criminals.
 

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
It wasn't U.S. soil, nimrod.
By every legal and historical measure it was, douche.
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
Clearly you have not, you ignorant douche.
Clearly I have, you ignorant douche.
 

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The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg
The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?
Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.
Complete and total lie.
Did Lincoln invade Virginia?

Why yes he did.
Absolutely and positively not. You cannot invade your own country. The criminal scum who tried to destroy our nation were eventually given a tiny fraction of what they deserve the punishment. You are a similar kind of scumbag fucking worthless dog and you deserve much worse, but again we will show forbearance.
It wasn't Lincoln's country, nimrod. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman all deserved to be tried as war criminals.
It was and is the United States of America.
 

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
It wasn't U.S. soil, nimrod.
By every legal and historical measure it was, douche.
Nope.
 

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The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
The end of slavery was one of the eventual outcomes of the war. Odd that every other country that had slaves was able to ban slavery without killing a million of its own citizens...UK and France for example.

No you silly person; the Civil War was about $....as usual.

Make no mistake; that slavery was ended was a good thing and overdue. You must also be aware that the North DESTROYED the South's ECONOMY. No money for reparations.

Greg
The North destroyed the South's economy because the South made war upon the North. Remember Fort Sumpter?
Nope. Lincoln made war on the South. Ft Sumter was SC territory.
Complete and total lie.
Did Lincoln invade Virginia?

Why yes he did.
Absolutely and positively not. You cannot invade your own country. The criminal scum who tried to destroy our nation were eventually given a tiny fraction of what they deserve the punishment. You are a similar kind of scumbag fucking worthless dog and you deserve much worse, but again we will show forbearance.
It wasn't Lincoln's country, nimrod. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman all deserved to be tried as war criminals.
It was and is the United States of America.
Nope.
 

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The Civil War was all about slavery, OK? It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States. That's bullshit. It was a Civil War, and it was about slavery. Denying that is like denying that the Nazis murdered millions of Jews in concentration camps... oh, wait, you deny that, too?
You don't understand the difference between a means and an end. "Slavery" wasn't an end. It was a means to support their economy. It was evil, but it wasn't an end. Think about it. They didn't want slaves just to own slaves. The North was industrial and population was growing and the South was losing its economic engine.

Also, ending slavery wasn't the objective for the North. Lincoln said if he could end the war and end slavery, he could do it. If he could end the war and keep slavery, he would do that.

Since the North was focused on subjugating the South and the South was focused on their economic survival, to say the war was only over slavery is obviously wrong.

The North could have demanded the South release their slaves to go to the North and then they could leave, but they didn't offer that
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
Clearly you have not, you ignorant douche.
Clearly I have.....
Despite zero evidence of any education training or experience in the area. You’re just another idiot with one of those things that everybody has.
 

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
It wasn't U.S. soil, nimrod.
By every legal and historical measure it was, douche.
Nope.
Go back to school, brainless.
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
Clearly you have not, you ignorant douche.
Clearly I have.....
Despite zero evidence of any education training or experience in the area. You’re just another idiot with one of those things that everybody has.
The United States was founded on the principle that legitimate government is based on the people recognizing the government as legitimate.

When you say people who were trying to fight a war to leave cannot leave, maybe you can claim they are still subjects of our government, but our government was no longer legitimate by it's own founding documents.

Did you read that part of history?
 

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It was U.S. Federal Territory, and Lincoln defended it rightly on that basis. To think otherwise is to dismiss Federal authority altogether (which may be what you want to do).
Lincoln deployed U.S. troops on U.S. soil to suppress a regional rebellion, in strict compliance with his Oath of Office.

No nation on earth ever recognized a sovereign nation calling itself "The Confederate States of America."
It wasn't U.S. soil, nimrod.
By every legal and historical measure it was, douche.
Nope.
Go back to school, brainless.
And unless you're admitting that you're claiming our government was then based on power without legitimacy, you go back and take some history with him
 

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It wasn't the War of Northern Aggression or the War Between the States.
It wasn't a war between the states?

View attachment 462175
They've been lying to us in school all those years.
A civil war is defined as "a war between citizens of the same country." Seems plain enough.
Southerners were not citizens of the Unites States after they seceded.
Yes they were. The so-called secession was illegitimate, illegal, and recognized by exactly 0 nations on this planet earth.
Prove it.
It has been proven and demonstrated and documented over and over and over and over and over on this very side, you stupid piece of shit.
You haven't proved jack shit.
Study history, you brainless douche.
I have, especially the history of the Civil War.
Clearly you have not, you ignorant douche.
Clearly I have.....
Despite zero evidence of any education training or experience in the area. You’re just another idiot with one of those things that everybody has.
The United States was founded on the principle that legitimate government is based on the people recognizing the government as legitimate.

When you say people who were trying to fight a war to leave cannot leave, maybe you can claim they are still subjects of our government, but our government was no longer legitimate by it's own founding documents.

Did you read that part of history?
If every citizen of the so-called confederate states shared a desire to leave the union, you might have a tiny fraction of an argument to build upon, but they did not and you do not. The traitorous rebels were illegal and illegitimate in every way. They were punished to a tiny fraction of what they deserved, just as assholes today who take up their evil cause will be let off the hook for far too easily.
 

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