Zone1 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the only true and living Church today

You are a double minded man and I rebuke thee! The Book of Mormon is true. The Pearl of Great Price is true. The Doctrine and Covenants is true. The Bible is true as far as it is translated and interpreted correctly. Of which you can’t.
You do not prove any of that by asserting it.

You have now answered any of my objections to the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham.

I am open minded. I enjoy investigating different points of view. I love facts that can be documented, not strong opinions based on nothing but emotion.

I am used to being told to read a book by someone who cannot answer my arguments. I tell that person the same thing I tell you: "Tell me what the person says in your own words. If you cannot do that you do not understand it."

You have not answered my simple question: have you read the Bible in its entirety including the Apocrypha?

I have, nine times in eight English translations. Have you read it once? Well, have you?
 
You do not prove any of that by asserting it.

You have now answered any of my objections to the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham.

I am open minded. I enjoy investigating different points of view. I love facts that can be documented, not strong opinions based on nothing but emotion.

I am used to being told to read a book by someone who cannot answer my arguments. I tell that person the same thing I tell you: "Tell me what the person says in your own words. If you cannot do that you do not understand it."

You have not answered my simple question: have you read the Bible in its entirety including the Apocrypha?

I have, nine times in eight English translations. Have you read it once? Well, have you?
and that is YOUR problem God doesn't do proof he does faith.
 
Descriptive, not prescriptive. IOW, this describes what once happened. It's not a prescription for "how you know" the Spirit is at work.
The Spirit works in many ways that you may know. The burning in one’s heart (bosom), a still small voice, a vision and other ways as well. You cherry-pick one way that the Prophet mentions and run with it even though it is written in the Bible. Then you deny it. Reminds me of one of our missionaries who asked a Southern Baptist minister that if baptism of the dead is in the Bible he would join out Church. So, they showed him 1Corinthians 15:29 and he immediately ripped that page from his Bible. They showed him other scriptures that pointed to the restoration and sealings and He tore those pages out too. Lots of pages. Of course, the minister complained to the Mission President and the missionaries replaced his Bible. Typical of so-called Christians that are anti-Mormon and truth.
 
You do not prove any of that by asserting it.

You have now answered any of my objections to the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham.

I am open minded. I enjoy investigating different points of view. I love facts that can be documented, not strong opinions based on nothing but emotion.

I am used to being told to read a book by someone who cannot answer my arguments. I tell that person the same thing I tell you: "Tell me what the person says in your own words. If you cannot do that you do not understand it."

You have not answered my simple question: have you read the Bible in its entirety including the Apocrypha?

I have, nine times in eight English translations. Have you read it once? Well, have you?
Neither do you. But, Merry Christmas!
 
There's no marriage in heaven.
You are correct! Mormon’s have never taught otherwise . Here is what we have always taught. All ordinances of the Gospel must be performed on earth and sealed for when we get to heaven, assuming we do. Your statement says these can be performed in heaven which we have never taught.
 

Is Mormonism a cult?​

by Matt Slick | Oct 9, 2011 | Mormonism, World Religions
Yes, Mormonism is a non-christian cult. Mormonism denies the doctrines that make Christianity what it is, and it substitutes their new and different doctrines that are not taught in the Bible. For example, the Bible says there’s only one God in all existence (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6; 45:5), but Mormonism says there are many gods, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). See also, “And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light,” (Book of Abraham 4:3).1
mormonism cult
Furthermore, Mormonism teaches that the Trinity is three separate gods (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage page 35) and that salvation is attained through obedience to the law and doing good works (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W Kimball, page 206). In fact, in their book Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, page 188, it says there is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God. Joseph Smith, of course, is the founder of Mormonism.
Mormonism also called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), teaches the following non-Christian, non-biblical doctrines. (Note that all the documentation is taken from Mormon writers and Mormon scriptures).
  • God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
  • God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428).
  • “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s…” (Doctrines and Covenants 130:22).
  • God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
  • “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
  • After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god, (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354).
  • There is a mother goddess, (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
  • God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).
  • The Trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
In contrast to these teachings, the Bible teaches that God has always been God and was never a man (Psalm 90:2). The Bible nowhere says he lives near another star, or that the Father has a body of flesh and bones – which Christ contradicted in John 4:24 and Luke 24:39. We do not have the potential of becoming gods because there are no gods formed (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8; 45:5). The Trinity is one God (Deut. 6:4) – not three.
In addition, Mormonism teaches that the forgiveness of sins is obtained by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Mormon church. Now, I stated this above but it needs to be reiterated here because this is another teaching that makes Mormonism non-Christian. Please consider the following.
  • “As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements -‘obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,'” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 79).
  • “One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation,” (Miracle of Forgiveness, Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
  • Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 92).
  • “We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do,” (2 Nephi 25:23).
In contrast to the works-righteousness teachings of Mormonism, the Bible tells us that our forgiveness of sins is accomplished by faith alone in Christ alone because it is Jesus who did everything necessary for our salvation. This is why we have the following verses.
  • Romans 3:28, “For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.”
  • Romans 4:5, “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,”
  • Galatians 2:21, “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

Conclusion​

So, Mormonism teaches doctrines that are in direct contradiction to the essentials of the Christian faith. it denies the true nature of God, the true nature of Christ, and the true nature of salvation. In fact, if you want to know what the Bible says are the essential doctrines, then check out the article “essential doctrines of Christianity.” that article lists out the Scriptures that tell us what the essentials of the faith are. Mormonism clearly contradicts those essentials.
The Mormons will claim they are Christians because they say they follow the Jesus of the Bible, in reality, they are following a false Christ. Jesus is not the brother of the devil as Mormonism teaches. Jesus is the second person of the Trinity. Jesus did not atone for our sins in the garden of Gethsemane as Mormonism teaches2. Instead, he did it on the cross (1 Peter 2:24).
Finally, we do not hate the Mormons, and we pray for their repentance, that they would stop believing in false gods. We want them to believe in the true God and the true Christ and the true gospel. But, unfortunately, Mormonism has deceived millions of people and it is most definitely not Christian. Mormonism is a non-Christian cult.
There is very little contradiction. Your twists and turns cause contradiction. Almost everything we teach is in the Bible. You simply deny it. But, Merry Christmas!
 
The Spirit works in many ways that you may know. The burning in one’s heart (bosom), a still small voice, a vision and other ways as well. You cherry-pick one way that the Prophet mentions and run with it even though it is written in the Bible. Then you deny it. Reminds me of one of our missionaries who asked a Southern Baptist minister that if baptism of the dead is in the Bible he would join out Church. So, they showed him 1Corinthians 15:29 and he immediately ripped that page from his Bible. They showed him other scriptures that pointed to the restoration and sealings and He tore those pages out too. Lots of pages. Of course, the minister complained to the Mission President and the missionaries replaced his Bible. Typical of so-called Christians that are anti-Mormon and truth.
And! Merry Christmas!
 
The Lord has only one true and living church. One reason The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a “living church” is that the living God reveals His will to living prophets and apostles.
Tell me more about Joseph Smith. Would a real God tell a man it was okay to commit adultery?
 
Why do you think he committed adultery?
Marriage is one man and one woman. Anything else is adultery. Please don't side with the heathen liberals who think multiple sex partners is a good thing.
 
Just of late, science is becoming settled that it exceeds the big bang.
The big bang puzzles me. The idea of the big bang is that about 14 billion years ago the universe consisted of a point of infinite density. How can that be? A point is a location that lacks width, depth, or height. How can it consist of anything, much less everything in the universe? Also, what caused it to explode?
 
Marriage is one man and one woman. Anything else is adultery. Please don't side with the heathen liberals who think multiple sex partners is a good thing.
No it isn’t. It’s a marriage between a man and a woman. You are interjecting your opinion. All the NT says is that a Bishop…must be married to only one woman. This suggests that polygamy was common and accepted by Jesus.
 
15th post
Merry Christmas to you too. I attended Christmas services at an Anglican church.
Good for you. We believe that everyone can worship God as they decide to and that we also may do so as well.
 
The big bang puzzles me. The idea of the big bang is that about 14 billion years ago the universe consisted of a point of infinite density. How can that be? A point is a location that lacks width, depth, or height. How can it consist of anything, much less everything in the universe? Also, what caused it to explode?
It's beyond the capacity of the human brain to understand.
 
It's beyond the capacity of the human brain to understand.
Naw…truth is reason and truth is eternal. God is real and simply organized our universe from matter that had no form but existed.
 
Back
Top Bottom