Zone1 Is DennisPTate really a Latter day Saint?

[DennisPTate]

I feel that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus...
who is also known as The Being of Light of near death experience fame is leading me toward assisting thousands and even perhaps tens of thousands, [if not even hundreds of thousands or even millionS of former Latter day Saints], to begin to attend the local LDS ward, but remain rather quiet and not really start divisions or fights.

I am a former member of the Worldwide Church of God so I approach church membership differently than somebody who has not dealt with a situation where a church feels that they need to "mark" and "disfellowship" former members in good standing.

I do believe that HaShem - YHWH - the Word or Logos in His pre-existant form wanted THE PROPHET BALAAM to join with Moses...... but in what we know of as linear time the Prophet Balaam could not do that.......
he was too interested in money.... and he was too scared of the kings who were in contact with him.

The threat of being tortured to death can cause any of us to rethink how we problem solve!

I believe that many Latter day Saint scholars will be able to agree with what I write in the following discussion and poll, to at least some degree?

For the record....
I lean heavily toward agreement with the Latter day Saints that the USA Constitution was an "INSPIRED DOCUMENT."

I believe that essentially every USA President had at least something of a President Truman, Lord Balfour, Cyrus calling.... [even President Obama who did save millions of Israelis and three hundred million Americans from the scary possibility of "President Hillary Rodham Clinton]... back in 2008 to 2016"





"Ancient King Cyrus, Lord Balfour, President Harry Truman and President Donald J. Trump?"

Thread 'Ancient King Cyrus, Lord Balfour, President Harry Truman and President Donald J. Trump?'

Mar 2, 2026

Is it relevant to three hundred and thirty million Americans that President Donald J. Trump.....
in spite of all his many, many, many, many, many flaws......
can be compared with ancient King Cyrus....
as well as with Lord Balfour....
as well as with President Harry Truman?

"Was President Harry Truman like Cyrus and like Trump?"

Yes,1, President Donald Trump was compared to the biblical King Cyrus (Cyrus the Great) by many evangelical Christians and some Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who argued that, like the ancient Persian king, Trump was a...

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I feel that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus...
who is also known as The Being of Light of near death experience fame is leading me toward assisting thousands and even perhaps tens of thousands, [if not even hundreds of thousands or even millionS of former Latter day Saints], to begin to attend the local LDS ward, but remain rather quiet and not really start divisions or fights.

I am a former member of the Worldwide Church of God so I approach church membership differently than somebody who has not dealt with a situation where a church feels that they need to "mark" and "disfellowship" former members in good standing.

I do believe that HaShem - YHWH - the Word or Logos in His pre-existant form wanted THE PROPHET BALAAM to join with Moses...... but in what we know of as linear time the Prophet Balaam could not do that.......
he was too interested in money.... and he was too scared of the kings who were in contact with him.

The threat of being tortured to death can cause any of us to rethink how we problem solve!

I believe that many Latter day Saint scholars will be able to agree with what I write in the following discussion and poll, to at least some degree?

For the record....
I lean heavily toward agreement with the Latter day Saints that the USA Constitution was an "INSPIRED DOCUMENT."

I believe that essentially every USA President had at least something of a President Truman, Lord Balfour, Cyrus calling.... [even President Obama who did save millions of Israelis and three hundred million Americans from the scary possibility of "President Hillary Rodham Clinton]... back in 2008 to 2016"





"Ancient King Cyrus, Lord Balfour, President Harry Truman and President Donald J. Trump?"

Thread 'Ancient King Cyrus, Lord Balfour, President Harry Truman and President Donald J. Trump?'

Mar 2, 2026

Is it relevant to three hundred and thirty million Americans that President Donald J. Trump.....
in spite of all his many, many, many, many, many flaws......
can be compared with ancient King Cyrus....
as well as with Lord Balfour....
as well as with President Harry Truman?

"Was President Harry Truman like Cyrus and like Trump?"

Yes,1, President Donald Trump was compared to the biblical King Cyrus (Cyrus the Great) by many evangelical Christians and some Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who argued that, like the ancient Persian king, Trump was a...

• DennisPTate
• Replies: 8
• Forum: History

You are a Latter Day IDIOT.

 

[DennisPTate]

You are a Latter Day IDIOT.

A massive spiritual awakening is happening that is transforming the way that most of us will view our place in the universe.

LDS have a heard start over most of us because they tend to take NDE accounts seriously.

[former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Thomas Benedict]:

10. What Is the Best Religion?​

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace.

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side during my NDE with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my NDE loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers, YES!

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[SweetSue92]

A massive spiritual awakening is happening that is transforming the way that most of us will view our place in the universe.

LDS have a heard start over most of us because they tend to take NDE accounts seriously.

Well. The Church of God explains some things, anyway....sigh

 

[DennisPTate]

Well. The Church of God explains some things, anyway....sigh

All sincere seekers have some pieces of the big puzzle picture. If we will genuinely seek to know the truth our Creator will arrange for us to find out more and more and more pieces of the puzzle. I did something rather strange back in 1990, I was very disappointed with what I was finding out that I perceived as my having been terribly off in my understanding on the State of the Dead so I raised my right hand up in the air and I prayed and quoted Isaiah chapter forty five. I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors and misunderstandings and sins so that I could do a better job of passing on information, [especially knowledge related to the purpose of our lives], than I felt that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong had done.

I am so glad that H. W. A. and his son Garner Ted got me out of Atheism but I also believe that to the degree that we were off track related to the State of the Dead was a critical topic that needed to be addressed in a manner that would be more accurate than what Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong had done.

 

[SweetSue92]

All sincere seekers have some pieces of the big puzzle picture. If we will genuinely seek to know the truth our Creator will arrange for us to find out more and more and more pieces of the puzzle. I did something rather strange back in 1990, I was very disappointed with what I was finding out that I perceived as my having been terribly off in my understanding on the State of the Dead so I raised my right hand up in the air and I prayed and quoted Isaiah chapter forty five. I asked Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to take me by the right hand and show me my errors and misunderstandings and sins so that I could do a better job of passing on information, [especially knowledge related to the purpose of our lives], than I felt that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong had done.

I am so glad that H. W. A. and his son Garner Ted got me out of Atheism but I also believe that to the degree that we were off track related to the State of the Dead was a critical topic that needed to be addressed in a manner that would be more accurate than what Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong had done.

I'm very glad you got saved, but for the most part, the age of prophecy is closed. God's word is truth; be skeptical of everything else.

 

[DennisPTate]

I'm very glad you got saved, but for the most part, the age of prophecy is closed. God's word is truth; be skeptical of everything else.

Take a long and serious look at the flavour of 2 Corinthians 12: 1-5. Isn't the Apostle Paul attempting to the best of his ability to NOT be overly dogmatic or exaggerating his own authority to comment, with authority, about his own unusual experience?

Should not all readers of 2 Corinthians 12 learn from Paul to NOT exaggerate our ability to comment beyond our ability to actually understand what has been happening?

"It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5Of such a one I will boast; yet of myself I will not boast, except in my infirmities. "
2 Corinthians 12: 1-5]

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The Vision of ParadiseIt is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to #Acts 16:9; 18:9; 22:17, 18; 23:11; 26:13–15; 27:23visions and #Acts 9:3–6; 1 Cor. 14:6; 2 Cor. 12:7; (

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Did this happen to Paul when he had been stoned and had appeared to be dead at Lystra? I of course cannot be dogmatic about that possibility, but at least this is worthy of consideration as a possibility.

Then Jews from Antioch and Iconium came there; and having persuaded the multitudes, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing him to be dead. 20However, when the disciples gathered around him, he rose up and went into the city. And the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe.

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At IconiumNow it happened in Iconium that they went together to the synagogue of the Jews, and so spoke that a great multitude both of the Jews and of the #John 7:35; Acts 18:4; Rom. 1:14, 16; 1 Cor.

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Another valid question that is generated out of 2 Corinthians 12 verses one to five is......
did the Apostle Paul in Romans chapters nine, ten and eleven, come as close as he could come to writing about the topic that he considered "unlawful to be uttered" a few years previoiusly?

I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh, 4who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises; 5of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

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Israel’s Rejection of ChristI # Cor. 1:23tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, #Rom. 10:1that I have great sorrow and continual grie

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1Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. 2For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
5For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, “The man who does those things shall live by them.” 6But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ down from above) 7or, “ ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).

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Israel Needs the GospelBrethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness #Acts 21:20; Gal. 1:14that they have a zeal for God, but not ac

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I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3“Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”? 4But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

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Israel’s Rejection Not TotalI say then, #Ps. 94:14; Jer. 46:28has God cast away His people? # Sam. 12:22; Jer. 31:37Certainly not! For # Cor. 11:22; Phil. 3:5I also am an Israelite, of the seed

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Romans 11, in my opinion, hints at the plans of the God of Abraham for Israel that will offend many Theologians.

For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
33Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
34“For who has known the mind of the Lord?
Or who has become His counselor?”
35“Or who has first given to Him
And it shall be repaid to him?”
36For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

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