The Brutal Task Facing Dems & The Only Path To Non-Extinction

[Tresha91203]

To dream the impossible dream, they are queer and they will always be here......No God will destroy them and neither shall anyone else...

Yes and psychotic far right whack jobs also exist. But does that mean their platform of snake charming pseudo-cult "Christian" elements should dominate the party platforms?

Nope. Next non-sequitur..

You mean like years ago when gheys were killed in the kinder-gentler, evangelical way?

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

I never said they were legally killed....

Sigh. Criminals do what criminals do. That does not equate to law-abiding Americans, which the overwhelming majority of evangelicals are. Aren't you the one who points out that criminal blacks do not equal black?

 

[Tresha91203]

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

Prove that was only about the dude being homo instead of him being robbed and killed with his fagotry irrelevant.

That was my point. It was never legal to kill homosexuals here, unlike many other countries.

 

[Moonglow]

To dream the impossible dream, they are queer and they will always be here......No God will destroy them and neither shall anyone else...

Yes and psychotic far right whack jobs also exist. But does that mean their platform of snake charming pseudo-cult "Christian" elements should dominate the party platforms?

Nope. Next non-sequitur..

You mean like years ago when gheys were killed in the kinder-gentler, evangelical way?

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

I never said they were legally killed....

Sigh. Criminals do what criminals do. That does not equate to law-abiding Americans, which the overwhelming majority of evangelicals are. Aren't you the one who points out that criminal blacks do not equal black?

I don't know, do I?

 

[Tresha91203]

Yes and psychotic far right whack jobs also exist. But does that mean their platform of snake charming pseudo-cult "Christian" elements should dominate the party platforms?

Nope. Next non-sequitur..

You mean like years ago when gheys were killed in the kinder-gentler, evangelical way?

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

I never said they were legally killed....

Sigh. Criminals do what criminals do. That does not equate to law-abiding Americans, which the overwhelming majority of evangelicals are. Aren't you the one who points out that criminal blacks do not equal black?

I don't know, do I?

I thought it was you <3 but it could be Pogo.

 

[Moonglow]

You mean like years ago when gheys were killed in the kinder-gentler, evangelical way?

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

I never said they were legally killed....

Sigh. Criminals do what criminals do. That does not equate to law-abiding Americans, which the overwhelming majority of evangelicals are. Aren't you the one who points out that criminal blacks do not equal black?

I don't know, do I?

I thought it was you <3 but it could be Pogo.

I would agree if it is a relative logical conclusion..

 

[Tresha91203]

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

I never said they were legally killed....

Sigh. Criminals do what criminals do. That does not equate to law-abiding Americans, which the overwhelming majority of evangelicals are. Aren't you the one who points out that criminal blacks do not equal black?

I don't know, do I?

I thought it was you <3 but it could be Pogo.

I would agree if it is a relative logical conclusion..

As long as you agree .

 

[Silhouette]

How many years ago was the last homosexual legally killed in the US for simply being homosexual?

Prove that was only about the dude being homo instead of him being robbed and killed with his fagotry irrelevant.

That was my point. It was never legal to kill homosexuals here, unlike many other countries.

Exactly. Just as it isn't legal to kill Satan worshipers. But that doesn't mean forcing Satan worship on voters will help your political party get to power...

 

[Pop23]

To dream the impossible dream, they are queer and they will always be here......No God will destroy them and neither shall anyone else...

The Dems have choices to make. Keep backing illegal aliens and the LBGT, which only gets you gains in already deep blue States, but continued losses in the Great Lake states, or come to their senses.

I hope I've helped.

I agree. Who gives a shit about jobs and the economy just so long as those queers can't marry? lol. That's the message that resonated with the people of the Rust Belt, not Sil's whining about gay marriage

Freedom of choice, is not what she is about...

You need unity. The Dems are fractured.

If you don't understand that, and that you lost the battle, that's no Sils or my fault.

I didn't lose shit..I really don't understand you people's need to have a hollow victory over people that voted for the winner.....

Glad you voted for trump then

 

[Moonglow]

The Dems have choices to make. Keep backing illegal aliens and the LBGT, which only gets you gains in already deep blue States, but continued losses in the Great Lake states, or come to their senses.

I hope I've helped.

I agree. Who gives a shit about jobs and the economy just so long as those queers can't marry? lol. That's the message that resonated with the people of the Rust Belt, not Sil's whining about gay marriage

Freedom of choice, is not what she is about...

You need unity. The Dems are fractured.

If you don't understand that, and that you lost the battle, that's no Sils or my fault.

I didn't lose shit..I really don't understand you people's need to have a hollow victory over people that voted for the winner.....

Glad you voted for trump then

Only logical course to take...

 

[HenryBHough]

I firmly believe no good could come from a one party system.

So I hope, now that the Democrat Party has failed, something new and home-grown will emerge. But beware of European Socialists looking to come here as they seek asylum from what's coming there.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump took the leftward position on trade and that's why he won. Hillary got stuck with the Republican position on trade that's always been a loser even when her husband signed NAFTA.

By going to the left of Hillary on trade, Trump got votes in the Rust Belt that guys like Romney could never get.

Trump proved not that Romney, or McCain for that matter, were too liberal, or moderate,

he proved that they were too conservative.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah I know...a thousand sophisticated reasons...but DEFINITELY NOT butt sex parading as "mom and dad" to kids, forced by judicial fiat...or Obama's "let boys in the girls showers" mandate at public schools. Those issues people only have a MILD reaction to...

...yep..um hum....

If tranny issues played such a major role, then why didn't the Gov. of NC crush his opponent? He may actually lose his seat. Stop projecting your obsessions on the rest of the electorate, Sil. People care about jobs and providing for the families, not whether or not two munchers down the block marry.

The RWnuts are trying to vindicate their own views by claiming what they believe as hardcore rightwingers is what won the election. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

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Yeah I know...a thousand sophisticated reasons...but DEFINITELY NOT butt sex parading as "mom and dad" to kids, forced by judicial fiat...or Obama's "let boys in the girls showers" mandate at public schools. Those issues people only have a MILD reaction to...

...yep..um hum....

If tranny issues played such a major role, then why didn't the Gov. of NC crush his opponent? He may actually lose his seat. Stop projecting your obsessions on the rest of the electorate, Sil. People care about jobs and providing for the families, not whether or not two munchers down the block marry.

The RWnuts are trying to vindicate their own views by claiming what they believe as hardcore rightwingers is what won the election. Nothing could be further from the truth.

So in effect, you are saying the Democrats did not go far enough left and that the Republicans won because they out lefted the left.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah I know...a thousand sophisticated reasons...but DEFINITELY NOT butt sex parading as "mom and dad" to kids, forced by judicial fiat...or Obama's "let boys in the girls showers" mandate at public schools. Those issues people only have a MILD reaction to...

...yep..um hum....

If tranny issues played such a major role, then why didn't the Gov. of NC crush his opponent? He may actually lose his seat. Stop projecting your obsessions on the rest of the electorate, Sil. People care about jobs and providing for the families, not whether or not two munchers down the block marry.

The RWnuts are trying to vindicate their own views by claiming what they believe as hardcore rightwingers is what won the election. Nothing could be further from the truth.

So in effect, you are saying the Democrats did not go far enough left and that the Republicans won because they out lefted the left.

Yes, on that one issue, summed up in shorthand as the NAFTA issue.

Remember, Trump and Bernie effectively AGREED on that issue.

 

[Silhouette]

Trump took the leftward position on trade and that's why he won. Hillary got stuck with the Republican position on trade that's always been a loser even when her husband signed NAFTA.

By going to the left of Hillary on trade, Trump got votes in the Rust Belt that guys like Romney could never get.

Trump proved not that Romney, or McCain for that matter, were too liberal, or moderate,

he proved that they were too conservative.

You're talking about the guy of which by election time everyone knew made his ties and caps in China, right? Like I said....a stale cheese sandwich could've run on the "Fuck democrats!" platform and won.

Now all that's left to ponder is what "fuck democrats!" means. And the OP spells this out quite clearly, and simply. Simple folk elected Trump/stale cheese sandwich/whatever stood for "fuck democrats"...

 

[Silhouette]

You need unity. The Dems are fractured.

If you don't understand that, and that you lost the battle, that's no Sils or my fault.

Correct. And the problem is that the middle voters don't like to associate with people who have a stinking albatross hanging around their collective necks.

 

[Silhouette]

The press just doesn't understand what the Trump movement was all about.

^^ bullshit You jail Christians and fine them hundreds of thousands of dollars...and force girls in schools to disrobe in front of deranged boys in their locker rooms...& you get election 2016. That's why people across all walks voted for the stale cheese sandwich (could've been anyone running on the "fuck the dems" platform). They ignored his past and present atrocities completely, including his professed but weak support for LGBT. They put him in office because of the "fuck the dems" mantra he screamed at the top of his lungs until everyone agreed. Didn't take a lot of persuasion.

 

[Silhouette]

That was my point. It was never legal to kill homosexuals here, unlike many other countries.

This is the type of strawman that is infuriating. Just because we don't like the moral code of someone, doesn't give anyone even the inkling to kill them, for crimeny's sake. The topic is that people simply reject the cult of LGBT. The movement is what people want to do away with; not the poor deluded people caught up in it!

 

[Syriusly]

^^ In a word, "Election 2016" ^^ Occam's Razor: there was not a slew of sophisticated reasons dems lost. The reason was quite simple, given that simple folk gave us the results of 2016..

What dems should do is simply scrape off the LGBT barnacles that lost them this election, & focus their platforms away from a deviant sex cult. Because if they don't, they're going to keep losing as the normalcy is restored to this nation. Essentially, because of what we know the GOP will do with the High Court appointments, they have no choice but to come back to sanity and tell their weird sex-cult friends "get help, boys are not girls, men are not women, two men or two women do not make an adequate mom and dad for kids". Either that or face extinction.Think: Target Boycott & that California voted down gay marriage TWICE, the latest in 2008; which was not that long ago.

And this scrubbing process is going to be interesting to watch because they are in bed so deep with patent insanity that it's going to take some VERY non-PC conversations with their base to clean off their logo..

This is why the dems leaders are in such a state of panic....THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHY THEY LOST, and it means facing that pernicious and insidious tantrum-throwing bloc of their base and telling it like it is. If it were me, I'd form another party called "the new democrats" and tell anyone else to go pound sand. Obviously that old rainbow bloc cannot vote for another Trump in the future; because of what will happen to their pipe dreams if they do. And once they see that A JOHNSON VOTE IS WHAT STOLE THE ELECTION FOR HILLARY IN EACH AND EVERY KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE SHE LOST....maybe just maybe they'll come back around to sanity. But it's going to take a couple of generations to undo the LGBT brainwash to the millennials and others.

If it were me, I'd form the new party name, begin an ad campaign from DNC funds to teach the little voting kiddies what happened in 2016: how their votes cast for Johnson exactly equaled, state by state (it was eerie, google it if you have time) the precise amount of votes that would've won the state for Hillary instead of Trump. Educate them about disloyalty and how it's cutting their own throats. Then wait for them to come back to the fold.

It's a gamble, but since they're going to lose 2018 & 2020 in exactly the same way (no matter how much they skew...or outright lie about... the polls and don't discuss the elephant in the living room), it's worth a shot. Otherwise they will face this hidden majority who eat drink and shit common sense; and 2016 will happen over and over and over and over until they finally face facts and do what they have to do.

It's going to brutal. No doubt about it.

I should have been worried when Silhouette predicted Clinton would win the election. She always get it wrong.

Her perfect record of failure at predictions remains intact.

 

[Silhouette]

I should have been worried when Silhouette predicted Clinton would win the election. She always get it wrong.

Her perfect record of failure at predictions remains intact.

OK, with that in mind I'll predict this: Democrats don't need to worry at all about the cult of LGBT being a parasite because those platforms in no way whatsoever hurt vote 2016 & in no way will hurt their vote in 2018 or 2020...