The brexi reverse starts. Brexit is being dismantled.

[Frankeneinstein]

The referendum was in 2016....

The referendum didn't ask the UK people what they wanted, only what they wanted...

not sure what to make of this

It is like asking people if Red is there favourite colour and getting 48% saying they like Red and 52% saying they didn't. then proclaiming Red has been rejected in favour of another colour...

what it means is that a majority of voters do not like red, and that a majority do not like being part of the EU

Generally, the people are allowed to change their minds especially after 9 years and pretty heavy opinion polls showing that indication... In other EU countries these opinion polls would have politicians wanting to put the question back to the people again... There is a clear indication of a change of mind...

How do you know any of this? the media? look at your own poll, it shows that 64_66% only favor closer ties with the EU but not rejoining it, sounds to me like your poll is backing my take on this while your left with the spin on it...if not true then explain the first bar in the graph.

IF you want to make ten years between asking the question?

How bout every year

But saying no revotes is not democratic... We got the vote we want and we will never ask them again because now they discovered how awful that mistake was is clearly not democratic...

Thwarting election results is clearly not democratic, especially when elections which define democracy are being undermined by a media with an agenda, your poll and its claim make that obvious.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There has been multiple polls with the question asked multiple ways...

Why is the poll you cited no longer enough?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Lots and lots to unload here:

General rule in other EU countries...If the polls are saying this, call a referendum...

which leads to my point, europeans have election nullification built into their systems

This is not anything to do with Elections... It is about a referendum

ok, then what does this mean:

The brexi reverse starts. Brexit is being dismantled.​

I am the one that wants a referendum not an election...

Understood, the accusation is that this...v

The brexi reverse starts. Brexit is being dismantled.​

...is clearly intended/meant to undo the election, My argument/point is that it's a lie if what you are claiming is accurate/true and according to your poll the majority do not want to do what tommy claims...what say you directly on that matter?

The UK had an election last year and throughly rejected Tories and Reform..

And lemme guess, you have no problem with those results so this/that election should be allowed to stand!

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The referendum was to say to leave EU... that was done..

The referendum never said you couldn't go back or that you can't have strong ties to your nearest trading partner...

The vote didn't even to say to leave the customs union...

If you want no revote then we should be very particular on what was actually voted for..

You're explaing tommy's mistakes to the wrong poster

 

[Captain Caveman]

Fishing industry in UK is quite small...

Brexit decimated it because UK export 80% of its fish and the paperwork was horrendous...

Reform caused this mess...

Lmfao

 

[Captain Caveman]

He campaigned on more EU integration and the people overwhelming voted for that...

He is doing his job, delivering on what he promised...

You are just pissed off you lost and still think you are in charge,,

Let's make it clear yourself and the Tories were rejected...

Overwhelming?? Shut up you fucking retard, you haven't a clue at the minority of numbers voted, 2nd worst in history. Stick to yank politics.

 

[CowboyTed]

not sure what to make of this

what it means is that a majority of voters do not like red, and that a majority do not like being part of the EU

But they were given every other option in the world like Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit, EU Free Trade Zone.... These are all other options... So like majority didn't like Red but Red is still the most popular... Can any other colour beat Red in a vote?

How do you know any of this? the media? look at your own poll, it shows that 64_66% only favor closer ties with the EU but not rejoining it, sounds to me like your poll is backing my take on this while your left with the spin on it...if not true then explain the first bar in the graph.

Look at the multiple opinion voter taken... You are taking one poll..

Opinion Polls

www.whatukthinks.org

https://www.whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/

That is 56% - 32%

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union, or leave the European Union? (Asked after the referendum)

www.whatukthinks.org

 

[CowboyTed]

Lots and lots to unload here:

which leads to my point, europeans have election nullification built into their systems

ok, then what does this mean:

The brexi reverse starts. Brexit is being dismantled.​

Understood, the accusation is that this...v

...is clearly intended/meant to undo the election, My argument/point is that it's a lie if what you are claiming is accurate/true and according to your poll the majority do not want to do what tommy claims...what say you directly on that matter?

And lemme guess, you have no problem with those results so this/that election should be allowed to stand!

There wasn't an election it was a referendum....

The UK People were asked did they want to leave EU... That question is a loaded question as it asks what you don't want and not what you do want....

Stamer is honouring that decision because UK will still be outside EU... UK people weren't asked if they wanted to leave custom union... So you can leave EU but not the Customs Union or Free Trade Area

 

[CowboyTed]

Why is the poll you cited no longer enough?

Because the referendum was stupidly asked, it is hard to understand what the UK people actually wanted in the past, Now or in the future...

This is a classic F**k up...

 

[CowboyTed]

Overwhelming?? Shut up you fucking retard, you haven't a clue at the minority of numbers voted, 2nd worst in history. Stick to yank politics.

So discussing issues civilly is not something you have managed to master just yet...

It is pretty clear if EU lost with 48% of the vote and the other options like just Hard and Soft Brexit would mean it easy for EU to pick up just 3%...
Since that the UK public have in opinion polls been reducing there support for Brexit...

So a new Referendum seems appropriate at this stage...

 

[Captain Caveman]

So discussing issues civilly is not something you have managed to master just yet...

It is pretty clear if EU lost with 48% of the vote and the other options like just Hard and Soft Brexit would mean it easy for EU to pick up just 3%...
Since that the UK public have in opinion polls been reducing there support for Brexit...

So a new Referendum seems appropriate at this stage...

Shut up you retard

You're on a thread where the author can't spell Brexit and you're making that faggot look like Einstein.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There wasn't an election it was a referendum....

Actually that refers to the election you cited but the semantics make no difference in this case so you can change "election" to "vote/voters" where necessary as both are subject to the same european political disease...

but enough of the circular discussion that has moved this disagreement away from the valid question...
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?:

The brexi reverse starts. Brexit is being dismantled.​

Who decided that?

 

[braalian]

Meh, don't really care what the UK does. It's era of significance ended decades ago.

It’s not a super power anymore, of course.

But it’s still a developed nation of 60 million-plus people with the 6th largest GDP on earth. Which means it’s GDP is larger than either Brazil or Russia.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Look at the multiple opinion voter taken... You are taking one poll..

Opinion Polls

www.whatukthinks.org

https://www.whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/ That is 56% - 32%

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union, or leave the European Union? (Asked after the referendum)

www.whatukthinks.org

No I only used the poll you mistakenly used/cited as proof of something, if the above polls you now posted are being used to back that poll up then 64/66% of voters do not want to join the EU, if it does not back up the original poll then the polls contradict one another proving there uselessness.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

But it’s still a developed nation of 60 million-plus people with the 6th largest GDP on earth. Which means it’s GDP is larger than either Brazil or Russia.

It's per person gdp is less than Mississippi's.

 

[braalian]

It's per person gdp is less than Mississippi's.

Well I guess russias per capita GDP is REALLY in the shutter then….

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Well I guess russias per capita GDP is REALLY in the shutter then….

That's a given, seems you may have left out part of the equation though.

 

[CowboyTed]

Shut up you retard

You're on a thread where the author can't spell Brexit and you're making that faggot look like Einstein.

So you can't discuss in a civil tongue....

You are embarrassing yourself...

You have just resorted to insults which is a fair indicator that you can't refute the argument placed in front of you....

It is pretty clear that Captain Caveman behaviour shows unable or unwilling to make a case for Brexit anymore..

 

[CowboyTed]

No I only used the poll you mistakenly used/cited as proof of something, if the above polls you now posted are being used to back that poll up then 64/66% of voters do not want to join the EU, if it does not back up the original poll then the polls contradict one another proving there uselessness.

Please link that exact poll please...

There are many there...

When it comes to Britain’s relationship with the European Union, to what extent would you support or oppose Britain rejoining the Customs Union?

www.whatukthinks.org

This effective says more than 50% (when don't knows removed it is 62.5%) want to rejoin custom union..

 

[CowboyTed]

It's per person gdp is less than Mississippi's.

Yep...

GDP per Capita is not always an accurate indicator....

UK has universal health care, lower infant mortality, lower poverty percentage, High nHuman Development Index....

This is even after they screwed a lot up by voting for Brexit..