The Blame Bush Era May Be Over

[bedowin62]

a rating from losers who actually call record welfare and food stamps "forward progress" means nothing to normal people

 

[bendog]

Another example of both sides fighting it out, and ignoring the reality of the situation.

It doesn't really matter who the president is, you're all controlled but don't like to admit it.

each new guy is hamstrung (BushI and Obama) or helped (Slick and Dubious) by his predecessor

But after 6 years, his policies should be having some effect.

 

[rightwinger]

What Bush will be blamed for

- Two unnecessary and poorly executed invasions and occupations that killed 7000 Americans
- Engaging in torture
- Standing idly as the economy collapsed around him

 

[bendog]

What Bush will be blamed for

- Two unnecessary and poorly executed invasions and occupations that killed 7000 Americans
- Engaging in torture
- Standing idly as the economy collapsed around him

ummm, he fueled the fire with war and taxcuts, but he pushed through TARP, enraging his own extreme wing, and the Bernank was his guy.

But we went from the moral highground, where even those who saw us as hypocrites, couldn't agree with killing children to ..... killing children.

 

[sealybobo]

Bottom line is Bush sucked and the GOP today are no different than he was on any/every issue and Obama despite the obstruction has been 10 times the president Bush was and Hillary will win in 2016. The only reason you will win this year is because dumb poor and middle class dummies don't vote every 2 years but you right wingers do. I hope for the day you poor and middle class people will stop voting against yourselves but as we see in the south, the poorest states, poor white Americans are easily fooled into voting against themselves financially because of wedge issues like god gays and guns.

 

[eagle7_31]

Then record Obama as being the worst Prez of all time.

Maybe the history of FoxNews will say that

Blaming who started it will never change. The South still blames Lincoln, the Right still blames FDR.

And the left will blame Reagan, just like parrots.

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe the history of FoxNews will say that

Blaming who started it will never change. The South still blames Lincoln, the Right still blames FDR.

And the left will blame Reagan, just like parrots.

Reagan was the beginning of the end of the middle class. The start of sending jobs overseas, buying from China, breaking unions, hiring illegals to do more than migrant work, tax breaks to the rich. Reagan is to blame as much as Bush. Bush took it a step further. We were bleeding 700,000 jobs a month at the end of Bush's term. The GOP hasn't changed. They just hope we all forget.

 

[healthmyths]

History will forever blame George Bush

Then record Obama as being the worst Prez of all time.

I never read President George Bush make ANY comments like these that Obama has made:
Believes in a .."single payer health system"... and in so doing puts 400,000 people out of work and reduces annually $100 billion in tax revenue.
Believes in bankrupting ANY company..much less electric utilities"!"if somebody wants to build coal utility plant it’s just that it will bankrupt them"
Believes that "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket"
Believes gas prices should go up...and backs that belief hiring Energy secretary Chu, who said in 2008“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”

Believes that our military should be demeaned by statements that call our troops nazis or that they methodically bomb villages killing civilians"!

Believes our EPA should be involved in managing dust on country roads or fining a Wyoming welder $75,000 a day for building pond on his property"

Believes in LYING to pass legislation"..Remember "you can keep your doctor"??
Believes there were 46 million uninsured as the facts point out there were less then 4 million"!

President Bush by abiding with the 1991 Cease Fire and removing Saddam SAVED nearly 2 million children from starvation. What has Obama done?
President Bush by responding to the will of these 32 democrat comments
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



"Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

some made BEFORE President Bush was President DID what 90% of us wanted to have happen, i.e. Saddam removed because WE didn't know if for sure he was behind 9/11 NOR did we know he was not behind the anthrax attacks.

What we do know about President Bush is THAT NO OTHER President in history had these 4 gigantic events occur in their administration. NOT ONE!
1) THE RECESSION that started declining in 2000 and was officially started in 3/2001 Contributed to businesses letting people go...i.e. contributed to UNEMPLOYMENT!!!

2) There was a dot.com bubble bust in that cost $5 trillion in losses.. 300,000 jobs skilled technology workers were out of jobs

3) A minor event --- 9/11! 800,000 jobs lost directly in travel/transportation businesses due to closures which means UNEMPLOYMENT!!!
4) And of the 10 Costliest Catastrophes..
Kiplinger - Interstitial
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
3. 9/11 Terrorist Attacks 2001
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...
GEEZ notice something similar??? All during 2001 to 2008!!! GEEZ think that had ANY affect on people losing their jobs???
400,000 jobs lost due to worst hurricane SEASONS 7 of the top 10 hurricanes occurred during 2001 to 2008!

So if in spite of nearly 3 million jobs lost due to Recession/dot.com/9/11 and worst hurricanes IF those events hadn't occurred that would have been a total of nearly 10 million more people working at the end of 2008 then at the beginning!

AND YET NOT ONE single Bush Basher seems to remember ANY of these gigantic events.

AND NOT one Obama foot sucker seems to care Obama is destroying the USA.

 

[regent]

you dolt; Bush hasnt been out of office long enough for a rating to be worth anything

hell the current guy is still blaming his own failures on bush


idiots and hypocrites[/QUOTE

Bush was rated in office; when he left office and two years after he left office. Bush will be rated every time they rate the presidents and he may go up or down a step or two but the die is already cast.

lmao

just because a leftard tells himself a lie; doesnt make it resemble anything close to reality

it is FAR too EARLY TO JUSGE BUSH HISTORICALLY

you're a JOKE

It was the historians that judged Bush, in fact this last rating in 2010, the rating was done by 238 of America's most noted historians and presidential experts. Historians have been rating presidents since 1948. As new presidents are added to our history and newsources and material become available, the ratings might change, but if they do change, they don't change much. Others rate too, for example, the Wall Street Journal if they rate again might give Bush a better place in their paper, but it's the historian's ratings that really count.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

As evidenced by Condi Rice's backing out of her commencement speech, Shrub's guilt is far from over. History is recorded by those in power. The only way Shrub gets off the hook, is if cons manage to destroy education, and turn America into a bunch of ignorant sheep.

President George W Bush is one of the greatest presidents we've ever had.

 

[Samson]

History will forever blame George Bush

Then record Obama as being the worst Prez of all time.

Maybe the history of FoxNews will say that

 

[LeftofLeft]

As evidenced by Condi Rice's backing out of her commencement speech, Shrub's guilt is far from over. History is recorded by those in power. The only way Shrub gets off the hook, is if cons manage to destroy education, and turn America into a bunch of ignorant sheep.

Recorded history is at the mercy of the agenda behind those that enscribe it.

 

[hjmick]

 

[Plasmaball]

As evidenced by Condi Rice's backing out of her commencement speech, Shrub's guilt is far from over. History is recorded by those in power. The only way Shrub gets off the hook, is if cons manage to destroy education, and turn America into a bunch of ignorant sheep.

President George W Bush is one of the greatest presidents we've ever had.

 

[healthmyths]

lmao

just because a leftard tells himself a lie; doesnt make it resemble anything close to reality

it is FAR too EARLY TO JUSGE BUSH HISTORICALLY

you're a JOKE

It was the historians that judged Bush, in fact this last rating in 2010, the rating was done by 238 of America's most noted historians and presidential experts. Historians have been rating presidents since 1948. As new presidents are added to our history and newsources and material become available, the ratings might change, but if they do change, they don't change much. Others rate too, for example, the Wall Street Journal if they rate again might give Bush a better place in their paper, but it's the historian's ratings that really count.

2 years! Wow! You sound like you respect the FACTS... so please counter these FACTS...
Of course where do historians get most of their public opinion? From THESE FOLKS!!!

Well, our job is to bash the president, that's what we do." --
Evan Thomas responding to a question on whether the media's unfair to Bush on the TV talk show Inside Washington,
February 2, 2007.Newsweek's Evan Thomas: 'Our Job Is To Bash the President' | NewsBusters

This was done by one of those MSM news magazine editors who later when Obama was running said:
COLOR="Blue"]I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God." [/COLOR]
Evan Thomas on Hardball, Newsweek?s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ?Sort of God? | NewsBusters

Now you tell me if you were Thomas an editor and YOU said YOUR JOB WAS TO BASH the President..but..
later you speak of the President in awed hushed referential deification mode..."he's sort of a God."... doesn't that seem pretty biased?

Also tell me if you don't find this just a little suspicious regarding MSM bias...

1,160 (85%) of the Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democrats candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.
Obama, Democrats got 88 percent of 2008 contributions by TV network execs, writers, reporters | The Daily Caller

I can give you for every one of you "bad" Bush illustrations two that show Bush doing things that historians 30 years from now which is the proper
perspective will say... Bush was a great president in that 4 gigantic events occurred THAT CHANGED America.
No other president ever had that!
And still this historians will then go on and show these facts...
Unemployment average during Bush 8 years ..
hen President Bush took office in January, 2001 the unemployment rate was 4.2%.

After the jolt of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the highest the unemployment rate rose was 6.3% in June, 2003.

This rate seems remarkably low by today’s economic standards.

Then the economy calmed down and actually grew, dropping the unemployment rate to the mid 5% range, where it stayed for the next two years.

In fact, the rate was 5.4% in November, 2004 when Bush was reelected.

Really good news came in December, 2005 when the unemployment rate dipped to 4.9% and stayed in the 4% range straight through to November, 2007.

Then in December, 2007 it went to 5.0%, rose slowly and really shot up in August, 2008 to 6.1%. When the economy tanked, the rate blew right through the 6% range ending December, 2008 at 7.3%.

 

[NYcarbineer]

THE economy was better in the Bush years

true story

Bush took the economy from 4% unemployment to 7.8% unemployment. Obama has taken the economy from 7.8% unemployment to 6.3% unemployment.

truer story.

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe the history of FoxNews will say that

Blaming who started it will never change. The South still blames Lincoln, the Right still blames FDR.

And the left will blame Reagan, just like parrots.

History has already diminished its views of the Reagan Presidency

 

[healthmyths]

THE economy was better in the Bush years

true story

Bush took the economy from 4% unemployment to 7.8% unemployment. Obama has taken the economy from 7.8% unemployment to 6.3% unemployment.

truer story.

THE FACTS are HOW many people had full time jobs?

How many people were working full time under Bush? in 2008...... 136,790,000
http://www.citizen.org/documents/Historical_employment_data.pdf

April 2014 118,070,000 full time under Obama.
? U.S. full-time employees: April 2014, unadjusted number | Timeline

WHY?? MORE People are dropping out of the labor force!
Why Did the Unemployment Rate Drop So Much? - The Numbers Guy - WSJ

 

[healthmyths]

What Bush will be blamed for

- Two unnecessary and poorly executed invasions and occupations that killed 7000 Americans
- Engaging in torture
- Standing idly as the economy collapsed around him

ummm, he fueled the fire with war and taxcuts, but he pushed through TARP, enraging his own extreme wing, and the Bernank was his guy.

But we went from the moral highground, where even those who saw us as hypocrites, couldn't agree with killing children to ..... killing children.

So you are a hypocrite! "killing children"... you blame Bush right?

You obviously wanted Saddam to continue to do this...
In five years 576,000 children starved BECAUSE SADDAM refused to certify WMD destruction!
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com
If Saddam hadn't been removed by a legal resumption of the 1991 Cease Fire which was signed by Iraq where Iraq was to comply with the terms.. but
Saddam didn't.
So from 1995 to 2003 another 921,600 children starved BUT if you had YOUR way YOU would want Saddam to continue to starve another
1,267,200 children from 2003 when he WAS hung by his people to today BECAUSE YOU LOVED Saddam!

So don't you dare pretend to care about children...if YOU had your way another 1,267,200 children would BE KILLED!

Please I ask you to comment about that because I really think people like you are JUST grossly grossly uninformed!
If you will please comment I'll also show you how by forcing Saddam to abide by the 1991 Cease Fire a entire historical ecology was saved from destruction
that Saddam was doing and that Scott Pelley of CBS news called a found "WMD"!

 

[rightwinger]

How can the historical view of th Bush Presidency improve?

If the Democracies he established in Agahanistan and Iraq take hold and build stable governments it will help to negate the blunders Bush made in hs decisions to invade