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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern white is not a race, ya fucking moron. You're crying like a baby over that and complaining how they're racially discriminated against but it's not because they're white. It's because of the actions of their ancestor. Again, I'm white and I do have a heritage to be proud of and no one cares.
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Correct. Southern Whites are a subset of Whites. Southern Whites are not the only whites that get push back on their culture. Note this statue of Christopher Columbus and the liberals attacking it. But all the groups that get such pushback, are white. That is my point. Would you like to address it, or play stupid some more?

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You really are retarded beyond help. They are attacked for the actions they support.

Doesn't strike you as odd that this only happens to whites?
 

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IN THIS INSTANCE, you're completely full of shit. If it was as clear as you claim, Kelly, Spicer and Trump would not have spent 3 days trying to spin his comments into something completely different from what Trump actually said that day.

In the real world, his words were completely clear and since then the "spinning" has been your side lying and people calling you on it.



When President Trump WANTS to be clear, he is. There is no mistaking what he's said. When President Trump wants to "send messages" to people, he rambles, jumps around, evades and obfuscates. The guys he's sending "dog whistles" to get the message, loud and clear, and they understand.

And he was completely and explicitly clear in this case. Your talk of dog whistles is you making up shit to justify your lies. AND IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT YOU PEOPLE DID NOT REPORT THAT YOU THOUGHT HE WAS USING DOG WHISTLES YOU REPORTED THAT HE SAID SOMETHING, THAT HE DID NOT SAY.

Your "defense" is to a. claim he said it, and then b. to talk about what he really meant, while still refusing to admit that you lied.

YOu people are insane.


Just like the Proud Boys understood "Stand back and stand by" was not an order to "stand down", which is what Trump claimed he really meant.

That was vague, could be taken either way.


Richard Spencer, the leadership of the Proud Boys, the KKK and other far right militias listed "uniting the American white supremacist movement" as one of the goals of the rally,

Richard Spence is not part of the Proud BOys. Richard Spence's best work to date, as a leader in a fringe movement, has been to try to conflate his tiny, tiny movement with larger groups, to give his people an illusion of relevance.

Why are you supporting him? Is he your personal friend?



Charlottesville used the cover of "protecting Confederate monuments" to march past a synagogue during Friday night services, chanting "The Jews will not replace us". There were NEVER good people protecting the Confederate monuments, the entire event was a show of force by white supremacists, neo-NAZI's, and the KKK that they are in power now, and that non-white, non-Christians had better know who is in charge here.

Do you believe that everyone who supports the confederate statues is a bad person or a nazi?


Trump made a number of false statements about the rally - that the violence started because "one side" came armed with clubs and baseball bats and went after the other. That much was true, but he implied it was the "violent leftists", when in fact it was the Proud Boys who came dress in kevlar and helmets, armed with bats and clubs. They sent 30 leftist protestors to the hospital in Friday. On Saturday, one violent white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of protestors, killing one and send 16 to hospital. But Trump only talked about the "leftist violence", and one "deranged" person.

The Proud Boys were part of the Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally.

Thank you for admitting that the Left came in armed and started the violence.

Trump spoke at length about the violence from both sides, and specifically about how terrible the driver of the car was.


"Trump: "Well, I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family, and this country. And that is -- you can call it terrorism. You can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. That’s what I’d call it. Because there is a question: Is it murder? Is it terrorism? And then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer. And what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing."


"you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group -- you had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very, very violent."


"You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch."


"Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."


"and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."



Jeez, seems pretty clear he is talking about both sides being bad, not like he is trying to spin it like you claimed.






Violent right wing terrorists are characterized by Republicans as "mentally ill" individuals, while violence from leftists if portrayed as radical leftist terrorism. Just as BLM protestors are "thugs" and the right wing terrorists are protesting lockdowns are called "patriots".

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Those words are really clear.


And so were Trump's. You people have no excuse for your lying.
"The Proud Boys were part of the Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally."

Ah, so that's who Trump meant were "very fine people." Thanks for clearing that up.


Sorry typo, tHE Proud Boys were NOT part of the Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally.


Everything else stands.
Dumbfuck, a of the Proud Boys organized the event. :eusa_doh:

Are you ever not a retard?

So it's the Proud Boys Trump thinks are "very fine people." I that why he asked the Proud Boys to stand by to take care of Antifa and the left?


Kessler was a ws who infiltrated the Proud Boys and tried to get them to come to the event. The Proud Boys leadership refused, because they are not ws and did not want to get involved.

They eventually kicked Kessler out.


The Proud Boys had nothing to do with this event, on either side. They are certainly NOT who Trump was talking about.


You need to pretend to be too retarded to understand that Trump was talking about normal Americans, who support the historical statues, who are not associated with any fringe groups.
Dumbfuck, Kessler wasn't the only Proud Boy to attend. :eusa_doh:


Yeah, I heard that there was another one. You are just pushing the Big LIe.
Uh, no, moron, there were more.


The leadership of the group not only refuse to participate but barred it's members from going.


That you feel a need to lie about them being there, could just be your reflexive bias to lying, or could mean something more.


Regardless, the Proud Boys, are irrelevant to this issue, and you are a lying asshole.
And members went anyway. So to the dismay of their leader, there were Proud Boys there. So no, that's not a lie.
 

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Plenty of territories and local governments utterly dominated blacks. If they want to put up a thousand such statues, we whites could not stop it.
That's what Tulsa residents thought in 1920.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern white is not a race, ya fucking moron. You're crying like a baby over that and complaining how they're racially discriminated against but it's not because they're white. It's because of the actions of their ancestor. Again, I'm white and I do have a heritage to be proud of and no one cares.
....

Correct. Southern Whites are a subset of Whites. Southern Whites are not the only whites that get push back on their culture. Note this statue of Christopher Columbus and the liberals attacking it. But all the groups that get such pushback, are white. That is my point. Would you like to address it, or play stupid some more?

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You really are retarded beyond help. They are attacked for the actions they support.

Doesn't strike you as odd that this only happens to whites?
It's only happening to people who are celebrating oppression.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?I


His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.​
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.

Interesting. I mention slavery, and you immediately go specifically to our Founding Fathers, with no mention of the many brown or black cultures or groups that have also practiced slavery.


YOu just demonstrated my point. That only whites' celebration are subject to veto from anyone with a whine, everyone else, is just allowed to celebrate as they see fit.

That is different rules based on race, and that makes you, for supporting it, a racist.
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?I


His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.​


After zero days. The riot occurred sat morning, to lunch time, Saturday. Expanded quote. I was not trying to trick you.


Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.



See, here we will see that your complaints are bullshit. You made a point that he waited days to condemn the riot. I just proved that that was not true. Now you will ignore this new information and hold to your position, without any adjustment.


Because, your position is based, at best on blind faith, and at worst on knowingly lying in the fact of clear proof.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.

Interesting. I mention slavery, and you immediately go specifically to our Founding Fathers, with no mention of the many brown or black cultures or groups that have also practiced slavery.


YOu just demonstrated my point. That only whites' celebration are subject to veto from anyone with a whine, everyone else, is just allowed to celebrate as they see fit.

That is different rules based on race, and that makes you, for supporting it, a racist.
How many are revered by anyone? How many of these "black and brown" cultures have statues erected of them in public squares?

Racism and genocide aren't cultures.
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?I


His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.​


After zero days. The riot occurred sat morning, to lunch time, Saturday. Expanded quote. I was not trying to trick you.


Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.



See, here we will see that your complaints are bullshit. You made a point that he waited days to condemn the riot. I just proved that that was not true. Now you will ignore this new information and hold to your position, without any adjustment.


Because, your position is based, at best on blind faith, and at worst on knowingly lying in the fact of clear proof.
He waited days to condemn the perpetrators of the violence. He just can't bring himself to say bad things about his supporters no matter how heinous they are. (Without intense public pressure)
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.

Where does he say white supremacy? He said both sides were responsible for the hatred bigotry and violence. Not wants to see mention white supremacy.

And took him three days to do so. These events happened on Friday and Saturday when Trump said nothing until Monday when he gave his “good people on both sides” speech.
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
What egregious display was he referring to?
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.

Interesting. I mention slavery, and you immediately go specifically to our Founding Fathers, with no mention of the many brown or black cultures or groups that have also practiced slavery.


YOu just demonstrated my point. That only whites' celebration are subject to veto from anyone with a whine, everyone else, is just allowed to celebrate as they see fit.

That is different rules based on race, and that makes you, for supporting it, a racist.
How many are revered by anyone? How many of these "black and brown" cultures have statues erected of them in public squares?

Racism and genocide aren't cultures.


How many are revered by anyone? Plenty.

Ancient Egypt, Ancient Africa, Ancient Latin American Empires, just about every racial or cultural group that celebrates any ancient history, is celebrating slavers.


"We wuz kings"? Those kings owned slaves.

And no one says boo about it, because people are given the right to celebrate their heritage and by the rules of multiculturalism, we are all supposed to tolerate it.

Except it seems, for whites. They sometimes, if someone wants to complain, they can be vetoed by others.


Because whites have different rules, less rights, based on their race.


It is called, racism.
 

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Faun said:
As many times as you're gonna claim Trump was too retarded to know that was a racist rally, organized by racists, sponsored by racists, promoted by racists, hosted by racists and attended by racists.

Got it. You think that someone would have to be retarded to not agree with you.
Nope, you don't "got it." I don't think that. There are many people who disagree with me here who I don't consider retarded.

That does not change the fact that you people lied and are still lying about what he said.
Nope, the liar is you. Most notably, I'm going by what he actually said. You're going by what you think he actually meant.

That means that the voters were voting, making their choice based on FALSE INFORMATION.
Nope, you're lying again as the information wasn't false. There was a racist rally which led to a confrontation to counter the racists. Racism is evil. Fighting it is noble. Trump equated the two sides and idiotically claimed there were "very fine people on both sides."

Fraud by deception. THe election is thus, not legitimate.
Nope, you're just crazy. :cuckoo:


Trump clearly condemned w.s. You are inventing confusion where there is none. To stonewall in defense of your big lie.


Trump: " -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.
After how many days and a barrage of public pressure?I


His remarks occurred after the president came under fire for the way he handled Charlottesville two days ago. Mr. Trump on Saturday condemned hatred "on many sides," which prompted backlash from both Democrats and Republicans alike.​


After zero days. The riot occurred sat morning, to lunch time, Saturday. Expanded quote. I was not trying to trick you.


Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence.



See, here we will see that your complaints are bullshit. You made a point that he waited days to condemn the riot. I just proved that that was not true. Now you will ignore this new information and hold to your position, without any adjustment.


Because, your position is based, at best on blind faith, and at worst on knowingly lying in the fact of clear proof.
He waited days to condemn the perpetrators of the violence. He just can't bring himself to say bad things about his supporters no matter how heinous they are. (Without intense public pressure)


Later the same day. FROM THE QUOTE YOU REFERENCED.

I was not trying to trick you into that gotcha, You did that to yourself.

Days later, when he was more sure of the details, he got more specific.

The ws are a pathetic fringe in this society. Who have not had a voice in national politics since the early 60s.


Trump's supporters are working class and middle class whites, mostly. That you want to smear them as ws, is you being a racist asshole.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.

Interesting. I mention slavery, and you immediately go specifically to our Founding Fathers, with no mention of the many brown or black cultures or groups that have also practiced slavery.


YOu just demonstrated my point. That only whites' celebration are subject to veto from anyone with a whine, everyone else, is just allowed to celebrate as they see fit.

That is different rules based on race, and that makes you, for supporting it, a racist.
How many are revered by anyone? How many of these "black and brown" cultures have statues erected of them in public squares?

Racism and genocide aren't cultures.


How many are revered by anyone? Plenty.

Ancient Egypt, Ancient Africa, Ancient Latin American Empires, just about every racial or cultural group that celebrates any ancient history, is celebrating slavers.


"We wuz kings"? Those kings owned slaves.

And no one says boo about it, because people are given the right to celebrate their heritage and by the rules of multiculturalism, we are all supposed to tolerate it.

Except it seems, for whites. They sometimes, if someone wants to complain, they can be vetoed by others.


Because whites have different rules, less rights, based on their race.


It is called, racism.
Those cultures are not celebrating slavery. They are not erecting statues of traitors to their country who fought to keep slavery in place. You're flailing and failing. You aren't a victim.
 

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Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors even if they were Democrats.

Don't forget the south lost. We should celebrate how we kicked their asses and we should rub it in their faces with statues of Grant and Lincoln in their cities. Would they object? Why?
You assholes want to tear down those statues too.

I agree with the proposal to put them in museums. They are works of art


What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Nazis.


So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?

Based on race? That makes it racism and you a racist and a supporter of racism.
Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:


Correct. Seawytch was dumb to post that as an answer.
Nope, you're the moron. Nazi's are a group. Her call was correct. You're the idiot who referenced them as a race.


I did not refer to them as a race. We were discussing a racial group, and I asked for other examples of racial groups, and the lib said, "nazis". not me.

My position is that his statement was senseless idiocy. I am ignoring it. Your desire to have me defend a statement that some dishonest lib said, is denied.
Of course you referred to nazis as a race. You really are that retarded.

Correll: Does that mean that you think that Southerns today do or do NOT have the right to celebrate their heritage?
sealybobo: Just like Germans shouldn't praise the Nazi's southerners shouldn't celebrate their traitor ancestors
Correll: What other group is not allowed to publicly celebrate their heritage?
Seawytch: Nazis
Correll: So no other racial or ethnic or regional groups who's right to celebrate their heritage is subject to veto by others, other than whites?
Faun: Nazi isn't a race, ya moron. :cuckoo:
[emphasis added to highlight your ignorance]

See that? You didn't ask for a "racial group." You just asked for a "group." And you were given one -- nazis. And no, "Southerns" is not a racial group either. And you claim that whites can't celebrate their heritage is utter bullshit. I'm white. My heritage is from the north. I can proudly celebrate it. Southerns can't. They fucking seceded from the United States and then fought against us. Even worse, they did so to sanctify slavery. Then they got their asses kicked. There is no pride in any of that.


I dismiss your pretense of being too retarded to understand that I was referring to southern whites as a regional subset of the racial groups whites.


You are retarded, YES, I'm npot calling you a liar.


BUT, you are not THAT retarded.


(I admit that I might be being dishonest here. You are really retarded.)



The Southern Whites rose up in rebellion and fought long and hard and bravely against great odds to protect their homeland from invasion.


There is plenty to be proud of there. That you cannot grant that to your enemies is you being intellectually immature.
Southern whites were traitors to their nation and they lost.


Correct. And afterwards, the nation as a whole chose a policy of reconciliation. Part of that was the acceptance of the South celebrating it's Southern and/or Confederate heritage as a harmless expression of regional pride as part of the larger national Identity.


Today, under the concept of multiculturalism, every culture is expected to live together in harmony, with each of us, retaining and celebrating our distinct differences while tolerating the celebrations and cultures of others.


EXCEPT, for whites. Sometimes, their celebrations are deemed BAD and they are NOT allowed to do it.
No, victim, not "whites". Traitors and perpetrators of mass genocide don't get to "celebrate their heritage" in public. What they do on the dark web in their racist fan fictions is up to them as long as it stays there and out of the public square. Put all those monuments to traitors in a museum like the holocaust museum and set it as an example of what NOT to do.

What about slavery? Is slavery a good enough reason to cancel someone or something?
:lol: No one and nothing is being "cancelled" . Where, except in deep dark places like the dark web where the racists play their cosplay, is slavery NOT condemed?


So, to be clear. SLAVERY is enough reason for something to be "condemned"?
To be clear, slavery is condemned. Yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners. That is not to be celebrated, but neither does it erase their contributions...more like balances it.

Interesting. I mention slavery, and you immediately go specifically to our Founding Fathers, with no mention of the many brown or black cultures or groups that have also practiced slavery.


YOu just demonstrated my point. That only whites' celebration are subject to veto from anyone with a whine, everyone else, is just allowed to celebrate as they see fit.

That is different rules based on race, and that makes you, for supporting it, a racist.
How many are revered by anyone? How many of these "black and brown" cultures have statues erected of them in public squares?

Racism and genocide aren't cultures.


How many are revered by anyone? Plenty.

Ancient Egypt, Ancient Africa, Ancient Latin American Empires, just about every racial or cultural group that celebrates any ancient history, is celebrating slavers.


"We wuz kings"? Those kings owned slaves.

And no one says boo about it, because people are given the right to celebrate their heritage and by the rules of multiculturalism, we are all supposed to tolerate it.

Except it seems, for whites. They sometimes, if someone wants to complain, they can be vetoed by others.


Because whites have different rules, less rights, based on their race.


It is called, racism.

Are you suffering?
 

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