Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 126,711
- 98,396
- 3,635
The Big Lie
- Thread starter Lastamender
- Start date
Nothing I have said indicates that ONLY southerns have a right to celebrate their heritage. Your questions make no sense.
Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastrwww.politifact.com
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
It doesn't matter, because all that matters is that Trump assumed that there were some.
And you people, instead of reporting that, or addressing that, LIED and claimed that he said that ws were "very fine people".
That is teh point.
That's it! It was my Republican buddy who's a felon who voted for Trump. This is why Republicans know voter fraud exists because they do it.
Southerners and Germans don't get to celebrate sedition, treason and their relatives who tried to secede from the United States of America.
They are not patriots. No you should not be able to fly a confederate flag on your car. I know it's allowed but it shouldn't be. It's like wearing your KKK hood around town. Why don't you do that if you are so proud of this heritage?
You remind me of the confederate flag today. You're a white racist pretending not to be.
Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 126,711
- 98,396
- 3,635
It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
You would arrest people for having a confederate flag on their car?
Wow. Thanks for showing just where this kind of thinking leads to.
I mean, I knew, but making the case is hard, because it sounds so outrageous to Americans.
BUt, you just demonstrated it for me.
THanks.
It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
Can you legally ride around in a car with the word N8**#r on it? I'm curious if that's legal or not.
Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 126,711
- 98,396
- 3,635
Yes, he condemned many different groups but not all of them. He supports many hate groups, including the Proud Boys who he told to stand by; which they did for him until Insurrection Day.It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
Remember Trump said he had no clue what Proud Boys was and then in front of America asked them to stand back and stand by?It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
Not stand down. He wouldn't say it. Chris Wallace begged him to but all he would say was stand back and stand by. For what? Him to tell them to storm the Capitol?
Then of course he quickly changed the subject to BLM and Antifa.
I would bet money that there are bumper stickers that say such shit.
BUT, regardless, a confederate flag is not obscene.
You thinking of walking that back some?
Yes, he condemned many different groups but not all of them. He supports many hate groups, including the Proud Boys who he told to stand by; which they did for him until Insurrection Day.It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
You are being silly now. His meaning was clear. He was condemning the ws groups but sticking up for regular people who supported the historical statues.
And you people, instead of voicing your disagreement with his take on it,
LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, AND CLAIMED HE WAS BEING SUPPORTIVE OF WS.
How many people do you think voted against Trump because they believed that he was a WS?
AND
Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 126,711
- 98,396
- 3,635
No, but you'd think Americans would be revolted by seditionists who fought against the USA. And got their asses kicked, to boot.
BlindBoo
Diamond Member
- Sep 28, 2010
- 57,376
- 17,026
- 2,180
The North may have won the war but their occupation ended in 1877 and another era of oppression began. Share Cropping and second class citizenship.
No I think the confederate flag is obscene as a statue of Lee. He was a scumbag Democrat.
Faun
Diamond Member
- Nov 14, 2011
- 126,711
- 98,396
- 3,635
"His meaning was clear."Yes, he condemned many different groups but not all of them. He supports many hate groups, including the Proud Boys who he told to stand by; which they did for him until Insurrection Day.It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
You are being silly now. His meaning was clear. He was condemning the ws groups but sticking up for regular people who supported the historical statues.
And you people, instead of voicing your disagreement with his take on it,
LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, AND CLAIMED HE WAS BEING SUPPORTIVE OF WS.
How many people do you think voted against Trump because they believed that he was a WS?
AND
Translation: you're trying to read his mind
Thanks for finally admitting that.
Evasion. I asked you why you are a racist. Answer the question I asked
For 4 years Trump said horrible things and the next day every time Correll would come here and tell us what he meant was....."His meaning was clear."Yes, he condemned many different groups but not all of them. He supports many hate groups, including the Proud Boys who he told to stand by; which they did for him until Insurrection Day.It's what he said, loser. You're the one trying to read his mind by guessing he believed there were non-racists there; but he never said that's what he believes. That you saying g that's what he believes. It's too bad he didn't say that himself.Yes, you also had neo-confederates and kkk and other assorted racists. So that's who was "very fine people."
I don't have to believe what he said, we have recordings.
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"
Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.
"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"
Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."
Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."
Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."
Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner........"
In Context: Trump’s ‘very fine people on both sides’ remarks
On Aug. 15, 2017, President Donald Trump held a press conference to discuss an executive order he had signed on infrastr
And thank you for proving my point that you people are the ones pushing propaganda and lies.
That you can stand by that lie, after it has been so repeatedly and completely debunked, shows that you are beyond saving.
That you people SUCCESSFULLY pushed that lie, and made it stick, is incredible.
That the American voters, as a group, were SUCCESSFULLY LIED TO THAT THE US PRESIDENT WAS SYMPATHETIC TO WHITE SUPREMACISTS, MAKES THE ELECTORATE MISINFORMED AND THE ELECTION ILLEGETIMATE.
Crocodile tears. Both sides do it. Recall the "You didn't build that" campaign.
So, you admit it was a political lie. THank you.
Your lie though was massively successful. I can think of nothing more damaging in this day and age, as being smeared with the ws label.
And by that fact, you undermined the election.
FRAUD BY DECPETION.
Well that is was the Republican tactic, completely lie about the context of what was said, whereas the part of the Trumpyberra quote they emphasized was half true in that the Grumpster was trying to equivocate and satisfy both sides.
Romney gained ground back in 2012 after they used that attack ad campaign too. Furthermore the Trumpybear campaign embraced a very deceptive campaign against Sec. Clinton in 2016.
Sounds like you guys can dish it out alright, but when the tables are turned, you cry "Fraud"!
Irrelevant.
THe point stands. THe voters were misled on a massive scale.
AND, as per the op, also intimidated.
Thus, not a legitimate election.
Not in the slightest bit true. Trump is most definitely a white supremacist, and Charlottesville was the first time he dropped the mask after the election. ...
....
From the speech you people lied about then and are still lying now.
"And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."
That is what he actually said about ws.
If the American people were told what Trump really said, instead of what you people believe he meant, it could very likely have changed the outcome of the election.
If you people had attacked him, on the basis of your DISAGREEMENT with his opinion of who was at the rally, that would have been a legitimate disagreement, that we could debate ad nauseum.
BUT, instead you pretended that he AGREED with you, that only ws of various stripes were there, on the side of the statues, and then you clearly and purposefully LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID,
in order to support your belief that Trump was a ws.
That was a massive lie, that you held together as a group, and thus sold to the American voters.
By and large, the American voters believe(d) that Trump is/was sympathetic towards ws.
That BY itself would have a HUGE impact on the election, quite possibly changing it's outcome.
Thus, FRAUD BY DECEPTION.
AND, as per the op, it was not by itself.
i quoted him repeatedly, and explicitly stating that he was not referring to the ws.
That bit where you keep tryhing to conflate ws with wacist? We all see what you are doing. Knock that bullshit off.
"Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch."
You are being silly now. His meaning was clear. He was condemning the ws groups but sticking up for regular people who supported the historical statues.
And you people, instead of voicing your disagreement with his take on it,
LIED ABOUT WHAT HE SAID, AND CLAIMED HE WAS BEING SUPPORTIVE OF WS.
How many people do you think voted against Trump because they believed that he was a WS?
AND
Translation: you're trying to read his mind
Thanks for finally admitting that.
A Democrat lying, just like every other Democrat every time. It's who you are, lying is the essence of your being.
I see the racists in your photo though, which one is you?
Similar threads
New Topics
-
Yemen airport CLOSED! (Due to Islamic republic of Iran's crimes via Houthis jihadists)- Started by Sayaras
- Replies: 6
-
-
-
