LBJ - the movie. (2024)

[iamwhatiseem]

I didn't realize Rob Reiner directed the movie. That is a problem. Not exactly a director known for accuracy and history films.
The movie should have been entitled "LBJ's homage to Kennedy". Because that is 100% what the movie was about. It was more about Kennedy and his legacy, than LBJ. Reiner clearly is very fond of JFK.
The movie presents the myth that LBJ only worked on civil rights because he thought JFK was such a great man. Simply not true. And completely left out of the movie is LBJ pushed civil rights and landmark legislation to further protect minorities than JFK did. He did it because he wholly believed the "old ways" needed to end.
The movie presents LBJ as begrudgingly going along. Not true. He was for the swift passage before and after RFK was murdered..

Anyway - the movie is a fluff piece glorifying RFK much more than LBJ.
Reiner clearly has a bromance with Kennedy.

I give it 2 out of 5 stars.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I didn't realize Rob Reiner directed the movie. That is a problem. Not exactly a director known for accuracy and history films.
The movie should have been entitled "LBJ's homage to Kennedy". Because that is 100% what the movie was about. It was more about Kennedy and his legacy, than LBJ. Reiner clearly is very fond of JFK.
The movie presents the myth that LBJ only worked on civil rights because he thought JFK was such a great man. Simply not true. And completely left out of the movie is LBJ pushed civil rights and landmark legislation to further protect minorities than JFK did. He did it because he wholly believed the "old ways" needed to end.
The movie presents LBJ as begrudgingly going along. Not true. He was for the swift passage before and after RFK was murdered..

Anyway - the movie is a fluff piece glorifying RFK much more than LBJ.
Reiner clearly has a bromance with Kennedy.

I give it 2 out of 5 stars.

Lyndon Johnson opposed every civil rights proposal considered in his first 20 years as lawmaker

"During his first 20 years in Congress," Obama said, "he opposed every civil rights bill that came up for a vote, once calling the push for federal legislation a farce and a shame."

On one level, it’s not surprising that anyone elected in Johnson’s era from a former member-state of the Confederate States of America resisted civil-rights proposals into and past the 1950s.

It wasnt about civil rights for blacks, it was all about getting blacks, to vote Democrats. Give them free shit for the rest of their lives, you have have those N*********s voting Democrat for 100 years.

 

[EMH]

LBJ was America's worst ever traitor.... until W.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Lyndon Johnson opposed every civil rights proposal considered in his first 20 years as lawmaker It wasnt about civil rights for blacks, it was all about getting blacks, to vote Democrats. Give them free shit for the rest of their lives, you have have those N*********s voting Democrat for 100 years.

Yeah?
And both Biden and Obama were dead set against gay marriage. Biden made a special appearance on Meet the Press - specifically and categorically to say it will never happen.
LBJ was a politician. With all of the faults of one. But his passing of so many landmark policies - that he did not have to - shows how he actually felt.
When he was a Senator, he was a Senator from the south at a time when America was still very much divided geographically. If he would have voted for civil rights as a Senator - his career would have ended immediately.

 

[Votto]

LBJ was America's worst ever traitor.... until W.

Not even close, Woodrow Wilson, there is no other as bad.

Your first clue to this fact is that Washington DC is litered with glorifying Presidents who were President during a major conflit....................EXCEPT.........................President Wilson. Yea, there is no monument glorifying President Wilson. Even democrats with TDS realize this fact.

He truly is and was that bad.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Not even close, Woodrow Wilson, there is no other as bad.

Buchanan is worse

 

[Votto]

Buchanan is worse

Nope, not even close

He was charged with letting the Civil war occur.

Fun fact, it did not occur under his watch.

 

[EMH]

Not even close, Woodrow Wilson, there is no other as bad.

Your first clue to this fact is that Washington DC is litered with glorifying Presidents who were President during a major conflit....................EXCEPT.........................President Wilson. Yea, there is no monument glorifying President Wilson. Even democrats with TDS realize this fact.

He truly is and was that bad.

LBJ was in on....


the hit on JFK
the Gulf of Tonkin hate hoax
selling out our troops in 'nam
arranging for Israel to steal weapons intended for our troops in 'nam
deliberately "stopping" war in 'nam to keep in ongoing
lying about whether Israel was attacked in 67
conspiring with IDF to attack USS Liberty, and then planning to use it to start WW3 by nuking Cairo
RFK
MLK

 

[Votto]

LBJ was in on....


the hit on JFK
the Gulf of Tonkin hate hoax
selling out our troops in 'nam
arranging for Israel to steal weapons intended for our troops in 'nam
deliberately "stopping" war in 'nam to keep in ongoing
lying about whether Israel was attacked in 67
conspiring with IDF to attack USS Liberty, and then planning to use it to start WW3 by nuking Cairo
RFK
MLK

Assuming that is all true, Wilson has a much, much darker history

1. The man had KKK rallies in the Oval Office, and said the most hateful and racist things any US President has ever said, and pretty much every day of his life

2. Under his watch, he helped create the Fed which not control pretty much everything and with zero oversight.

3. He oversaw the creation of the federal income tax, a tax that SCOTUS declared unconstitutional a decade prior. No problem, they will just add it.

4. Lied about getting into WW1. Wilson galvanized the nation when the ship Lusitania was sunk by a German U boat saying that it was not a military target. Well, divers went down in the 1980's and it was full of munitions.

5. He transformed the US military into a world conquering military, along with FDR later on. Since then, the US has been in military mode around the world nonstop.

6. He helped create the terms of surrender for Germany, which laid the groundwork for Hitler with the Versailles agreement. Just awful.

7. He oversaw the transformation of the US Senate by creating an amendment allowing Senators to be directly voted on by voters instead of the states appointing them, thus further eroding the power of the states.

8. He despised the US Constitution openly, even though he swore to defend it.

9. He pulled a Biden. He has a massive stroke at the end of his term and pretended that it was nothing as his wife assumed all his obligations. She became his autopen. The media and the administration hid this from the American people and even tried for another term.

Yea, he was a real piece of poo.

The problem is, that the Left and their state controlled media can't admit to this because he was a democrat, so they do the next best thing, which is to ignore him completely, much like the do Jesse Smollett.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Yeah?
And both Biden and Obama were dead set against gay marriage. Biden made a special appearance on Meet the Press - specifically and categorically to say it will never happen.
LBJ was a politician. With all of the faults of one. But his passing of so many landmark policies - that he did not have to - shows how he actually felt.
When he was a Senator, he was a Senator from the south at a time when America was still very much divided geographically. If he would have voted for civil rights as a Senator - his career would have ended immediately.

Just a typical swamp creature. Anything to stay in power. Thanks to LBJ he was the guy who made the Projects.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Not even close, Woodrow Wilson, there is no other as bad.

Your first clue to this fact is that Washington DC is litered with glorifying Presidents who were President during a major conflit....................EXCEPT.........................President Wilson. Yea, there is no monument glorifying President Wilson. Even democrats with TDS realize this fact.

He truly is and was that bad.

I beg to differ. Every day blacks drive across the largest monument every made. They even have a plaque with his picture on the drawbridge control building.

 

[g5000]

I didn't realize Rob Reiner directed the movie. That is a problem. Not exactly a director known for accuracy and history films.
The movie should have been entitled "LBJ's homage to Kennedy". Because that is 100% what the movie was about. It was more about Kennedy and his legacy, than LBJ. Reiner clearly is very fond of JFK.
The movie presents the myth that LBJ only worked on civil rights because he thought JFK was such a great man. Simply not true. And completely left out of the movie is LBJ pushed civil rights and landmark legislation to further protect minorities than JFK did. He did it because he wholly believed the "old ways" needed to end.
The movie presents LBJ as begrudgingly going along. Not true. He was for the swift passage before and after RFK was murdered..

Anyway - the movie is a fluff piece glorifying RFK much more than LBJ.
Reiner clearly has a bromance with Kennedy.

I give it 2 out of 5 stars.

Actually, the movie was quite accurate.

Have you read Robert Caro's books about LBJ? A lot of what was in this movie came from there.

The movie actually showed how much LBJ cared about civil rights. It portrayed LBJ's understanding of the obstacles to passage of civil rights legislation and that JFK was going about it all wrong.

LBJ's approach was one hundred percent correct. Overcoming the right wing opposition to civil rights legislation from the Southern Democrats took tactics and strategies JFK was too new to politics to understand, and that frustrated LBJ as he saw Kennedy was going to cause setbacks.

When JFK was killed, LBJ finally saw an opening and exploited it to the max.

Richard Russell was LBJ's mentor and the biggest obstacle.

I highly recommend Robert Caro's biographical series on LBJ. There are four volumes, and supposed to be a fifth. We fans have been waiting 13 years for that fifth volume and are hoping Caro doesn't die before he finishes.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nope, not even close

He was charged with letting the Civil war occur.

Fun fact, it did not occur under his watch.

LOL

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Actually, the movie was quite accurate.

Have you read Robert Caro's books about LBJ? A lot of what was in this movie came from there.

The movie actually showed how much LBJ cared about civil rights. It portrayed LBJ's understanding of the obstacles to passage of civil rights legislation and that JFK was going about it all wrong.

LBJ's approach was one hundred percent correct. Overcoming the right wing opposition to civil rights legislation from the Southern Democrats took tactics and strategies JFK was too new to politics to understand, and that frustrated LBJ as he saw Kennedy was going to cause setbacks.

When JFK was killed, LBJ finally saw an opening and exploited it to the max.

Richard Russell was LBJ's mentor and the biggest obstacle.

I highly recommend Robert Caro's biographical series on LBJ. There are four volumes, and supposed to be a fifth. We fans have been waiting 13 years for that fifth volume and are hoping Caro doesn't die before he finishes.

Gotta love it when the left calls the old left "right-wing".

 

[g5000]

Gotta love it when the left calls the old left "right-wing".

Nice try.

Every once in a while on this forum, some ignorant idiot like yourself tries to associate the present day liberal Democrats with the old time conservative Southern Democrats. This is a profound ignorance of American history. The kind of ignorance on the same level which believes George Washington "seized the airports".

This is about the purest demonstration of ignorance and stupidity as it gets.

So I guess they told you it was your turn to once again propagate this bullshit, eh?

Let's take this step-by-step.

Tell me...which party is it that protests the tearing down of Confederate statues?

Which party was pissed about the renaming of Army bases named after Confederate generals? Which party is now returning those base names to the Confederate names?

Which party waves the Confederate battle flag at events like the sacking of the US Capitol and protests about tearing down Confederal statues?

If you STILL haven't experienced any cognition yet, let's take a look at some photos and see if you can guess if the old timey racists were liberal or conservative, okay?

When the Klan carries an AMERICA FIRST banner in a parade, with two prominent Christian crosses on it, who does that remind you of?

.

.

Moving on...

Here's a guy with the US flag topped by a cross. The Holy Bible. The Confederate flag. A sword.

Also note the Klansman symbol worn on their breast was a blood drop cross (which was actually a yin-yang symbol originally).

Conservative or liberal?

.
Now let's take a look at these Christian terrorists. Conservative or liberal?
Do you think they supported black civil rights?
Do you think they supported gay rights?
Do you think they wanted a big federal government?
Do you think they wanted single-payer health care?
Do you think they wanted to appease the Soviet Union?

.

Now how about this handsome fella. Does he strike you as a liberal? RACE MIXING IS COMMUNISM!

[


.
How about these fine people? Left wing or right wing?

.
Are you feeling stupid right about now?

You should. If you aren't, you are beyond help.


You see, your propagandists absolutely depend on your idiocy. They just have to wave the "Democrat" red flag in your face, and your total ignorance of history kicks in, just as they counted on.

The fact is, ignoramus, the Democrats of the old Deep South were conservatives. And the Klan were far right Christian terrorists.

Please don't allow your brain to be hijacked and made so f*cking stupid!

 

[iamwhatiseem]

TLDR as you try to derail the thread and - AGAIN - attempt to white wash the Democratic Parties racist past, and their even more damning social policies that have devastated the black race in America.
No one here is going to buy your bullshit and your childish name calling because you are a Karen.
The Democratic Party has, in every way, destroyed the black race in America. And continue to do so.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

TLDR as you try to derail the thread and - AGAIN - attempt to white wash the Democratic Parties racist past, and their even more damning social policies that have devastated the black race in America.
No one here is going to buy your bullshit and your childish name calling because you are a Karen.
The Democratic Party has, in every way, destroyed the black race in America. And continue to do so.

Democrats of old created the KKK to terrorize and murder blacks. BLM/ANTIFA was created to terrorize and murder blacks. Nothing has changed with the Democrat party.

 

[BackAgain]

Nice try.

Every once in a while on this forum, some ignorant idiot like yourself tries to associate the present day liberal Democrats with the old time conservative Southern Democrats. This is a profound ignorance of American history. The kind of ignorance on the same level which believes George Washington "seized the airports".

This is about the purest demonstration of ignorance and stupidity as it gets.

So I guess they told you it was your turn to once again propagate this bullshit, eh?

Let's take this step-by-step.

Tell me...which party is it that protests the tearing down of Confederate statues?

Which party was pissed about the renaming of Army bases named after Confederate generals? Which party is now returning those base names to the Confederate names?

Which party waves the Confederate battle flag at events like the sacking of the US Capitol and protests about tearing down Confederal statues?

If you STILL haven't experienced any cognition yet, let's take a look at some photos and see if you can guess if the old timey racists were liberal or conservative, okay?

When the Klan carries an AMERICA FIRST banner in a parade, with two prominent Christian crosses on it, who does that remind you of?

.

.

Moving on...

Here's a guy with the US flag topped by a cross. The Holy Bible. The Confederate flag. A sword.

Also note the Klansman symbol worn on their breast was a blood drop cross (which was actually a yin-yang symbol originally).

Conservative or liberal?

.
Now let's take a look at these Christian terrorists. Conservative or liberal?
Do you think they supported black civil rights?
Do you think they supported gay rights?
Do you think they wanted a big federal government?
Do you think they wanted single-payer health care?
Do you think they wanted to appease the Soviet Union?

.

Now how about this handsome fella. Does he strike you as a liberal? RACE MIXING IS COMMUNISM!

[


.
How about these fine people? Left wing or right wing?

.
Are you feeling stupid right about now?

You should. If you aren't, you are beyond help.


You see, your propagandists absolutely depend on your idiocy. They just have to wave the "Democrat" red flag in your face, and your total ignorance of history kicks in, just as they counted on.

The fact is, ignoramus, the Democrats of the old Deep South were conservatives. And the Klan were far right Christian terrorists.

Please don't allow your brain to be hijacked and made so f*cking stupid!

Your verbosity doesn’t make you even one iota more persuasive.

We all understand your fervent desire to deny your own Party’s history. But, you’re still clearly full of shit.