The Bible Is Evidence

[JoeBlow]

Coming from a guy who thinks, "I'll sexually harass this girl to try to make her stop arguing with me", that's not impressive.

What are the facts about the worldwide 40 day flood?

 

[HaShev]

Abraham is much too early by hundreds of years. It's likely that Abraham was from Urfa near Haran.

And Abraham resided in the West Bank much earlier then People from Jordan and Egypt and all over thr Middle East who claimed to be indigenous, so
;-)

 

[surada]

And Abraham resided in the West Bank much earlier then People from Jordan and Egypt and all over thr Middle East who claimed to be indigenous, so
;-)

Nope. The Canaanites and Egyptians we're there before Abraham.

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[surada]

Here's where the Canaanites we're settled.

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[HaShev]

Nope. The Canaanites and Egyptians we're there before Abraham.

I was the one exposing the letter from the Arab league requesting influx of immigration to the region to match the inflow of Jews to Israel, they are not indigenous to the region. They are from all over as admitted in the letter, and wanting to over populate a small region is dangerous for the health and welfare of the people, but since when did Syria or Iran care about the people they used as proxy. You'd think people would learn from how Syria used Lebannon and how that worked out for the Lebanese.

 

[surada]

I was the one exposing the letter from the Arab league requesting influx of immigration to the region to match the inflow of Jews to Israel, they are not indigenous to the region. They are from all over as admitted in the letter, and wanting to over populate a small region is dangerous for the health and welfare of the people, but since when did Syria or Iran care about the people they used as proxy. You'd think people would learn from how Syria used Lebannon and how that worked out for the Lebanese.
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Don't be silly. The Amorites and Akkadians were from Arabia. Sargon was an Arab. Sargon 2 settled four Arab tribes in Samaria around around 600 BC... about the same time the Chaldeans we're in Ur. The population was never more than 600,000 total. Before the 1930s the population had doubled with European refugees.

 

[Hawkins]

The bible is evidence.

Yes. It is.

1) human testimonies are valid
2) there's no other better way for truth to convey

Greek gods are not true due to the lack of testimonies from claimed eyewitnesses. There are no valid human testimonies of encountering these gods.
E.T. in the movie is not true due to the same fact that it lacks true human testimonies on encountering this E.T.
Aliens however can be true, as there are claimed eyewitnesses who said that they encountered aliens. However, the question is on how valid those testimonies are, as in the case of an encounter, at least authority shall be called. That is, you report this to the police or the mass media right away and let them examine the credibility. This says there's a better way to convey if it's true.

Your own grandpa wrote a book about what he's told by his grandma about friends she met in her lifetime. When your grandson read the book, 1) it's a valid testimony that cannot be further examined, while 2) there's no better way for such truth to convey in the case that the grand grandma did tell the truth. In this case, you are more than comfortable taking her words as evidence of her encounters. if however, she said that it's just a novel (i.e., a fabricated story), then you have the evidence that it's not true. There's not a better way to make a better judgment.

This is the nature of what human testimonies are and how truths are conveyed through them. Modern humans failed to realize so because they are brainwashed by modern education to think fallaciously that you can have "more evidence" in this case. Humans are futile about evidence in this case, though Satan blinded them to let them fart on the term "evidence".

Somehow the prophecy recorded in the Bible is correct and precise.

2 Corinthians 4:
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 

[hobelim]

This is the nature of what human testimonies are and how truths are conveyed through them. Modern humans failed to realize so because they are brainwashed by modern education to think fallaciously that you can have "more evidence" in this case. Humans are futile about evidence in this case, though Satan blinded them to let them fart on the term "evidence".

When reading scripture it is of the utmost importance to not throw everything you have learned about science, biology, literature, vernacular, history, reality, etc., into the trash. Many people have mortally injured themselves and others by doing this. This basic knowledge understood by anyone with a high school education worldwide is an essential constraint when speculating about what the truth conveyed might be. For instance, the truth of the eyewitness accounts of the resurrected Jesus must be that they were eyewitness accounts of what was seen and heard in dreams.

This is the only possible way that those eyewitness accounts could possibly be true because such things as popping in and out of locked room, getting his wounds poked, floating up into the sky, a dead friend eating fish, etc., do not happen in actual reality, never have, and never will.

Who needs evidence for that when everyone, whatever their faith, religion, belief or nonbelief, has been intimately acquainted with the reality of life on earth every day and night for their entire lives?

Believing that they were eyewitness descriptions of actual events is delusional at best.

 

[ding]

For instance, the truth of the eyewitness accounts of the resurrected Jesus must be that they were eyewitness accounts of what was seen and heard in dreams.

 

[HaShev]

When reading scripture it is of the utmost importance to not throw everything you have learned about science, biology, literature, vernacular, history, reality, etc., into the trash. Many people have mortally injured themselves and others by doing this. This basic knowledge understood by anyone with a high school education worldwide is an essential constraint when speculating about what the truth conveyed might be. For instance, the truth of the eyewitness accounts of the resurrected Jesus must be that they were eyewitness accounts of what was seen and heard in dreams.

This is the only possible way that those eyewitness accounts could possibly be true because such things as popping in and out of locked room, getting his wounds poked, floating up into the sky, a dead friend eating fish, etc., do not happen in actual reality, never have, and never will.

Who needs evidence for that when everyone, whatever their faith, religion, belief or nonbelief, has been intimately acquainted with the reality of life on earth every day and night for their entire lives?

Believing that they were eyewitness descriptions of actual events is delusional at best.

Or by way of meaning of words being misunderstood. Example; walking on water=walking the shoreline, or coming back from the dead=being allowed back from being exhiled and shuned out of the city. Sometimes someone had to argue your case to bring you back. Sort of like those being shuned by the Amish community, they can't be communicated with, thus the term excommunicated is liken to being cast out and dead to them.
And there is always out right exaggerated stories to compete with other mythologies, thus foggeries and fables due to Constantine (who had an extensive library of fables/mythologies) and Eusebius' (the forger's) imaginations.

 

[BreezeWood]

How does that work? "There have only ever been copies, not anything that was copied." Huh?

- they rewrote the originals to make forgeries then destroyed the originals ...

the same reason they waited till the 4th century to write the c bible - to rewrite the events of the 1st century after persecuting the original followers to conform to their own religion of servitude - the warship of a messiah. the state religion of the roman empire.

 

[hobelim]

Or by way of meaning of words being misunderstood. Example; walking on water=walking the shoreline, or coming back from the dead=being allowed back from being exhiled and shuned out of the city. Sometimes someone had to argue your case to bring you back. Sort of like those being shuned by the Amish community, they can't be communicated with, thus the term excommunicated is liken to being cast out and dead to them.
And there is always out right exaggerated stories to compete with other mythologies, thus foggeries and fables due to Constantine (who had an extensive library of fables/mythologies) and Eusebius' (the forger's) imaginations.

In addition to that, in the context of Judaism, if the reward for complying with the laws demands is a blessing, life, and the reward for failing to comply, whether you have made great errors in your own speculations or whether you were misled yourself, is a curse, the death, then rising from the dead is aspiring to comply with the one and only right way to understand the hidden subjects and fulfill the laws demands that leads to the promise of abundant blessings and life on earth in the sanctuary of God freeing all those who do it from the burden of the law which is a curse, death.

 

[shimon]

Mystery Babylon refers to the mythologies Rome borrowed to swallow up those cultures in the manner I discussed.

Like a giant carnivorous fish the Romans swallowed all cultures they came in contact with and gulped them down whole .. They did this with Judaism as well but couldnt digest it like they did all others like the Greeks! The Gauls etc etc so they had to spit the Jews out whole and unscathed … Didn’t stop them from chasing them from place to place giving them very little rest but the Romans were a persistent and vindictive and power hungry bunch to say the least…

 

[surada]

Like a giant carnivorous fish the Romans swallowed all cultures they came in contact with and gulped them down whole .. They did this with Judaism as well but couldnt digest it like they did all others like the Greeks! The Gauls etc etc so they had to spit the Jews out whole and unscathed … Didn’t stop them from chasing them from place to place giving them very little rest but the Romans were a persistent and vindictive and power hungry bunch to say the least…

Iran is the Persian language.

When Did Persia Become Iran and Why?

The region that is now the country of Iran has been known by many different names, and has had varying boundaries and borders over the past 5000...

www.historyhit.com

 

[shimon]

Iran is the Persian language.

When Did Persia Become Iran and Why?

The region that is now the country of Iran has been known by many different names, and has had varying boundaries and borders over the past 5000...

www.historyhit.com

Why is your inane post here as it has nothing to do with what Iposted or are you trying to bury what I have brought forth…

 

[HaShev]

Like a giant carnivorous fish the Romans swallowed all cultures they came in contact with and gulped them down whole .. They did this with Judaism as well but couldnt digest it like they did all others like the Greeks! The Gauls etc etc so they had to spit the Jews out whole and unscathed … Didn’t stop them from chasing them from place to place giving them very little rest but the Romans were a persistent and vindictive and power hungry bunch to say the least…

That's why I always saw Rome as the Whale which swallowed Jonah.
In the Biblical era the Dead Sea Scrolls showed us what "Day" meant in certain context.
The Ages of The World Scroll
4Q180-181 reveals Days=Ages
So 3 days=3ages
So 3 day(ages) story of Jonah and the Whale has to be rediscovered in meaning, as the riddle where Jonah (Said to represent Israel) spends 3days(ages) in the belly of the whale (Rome swallowed Israel).

Remember:in ancient slang Rome is called Seas and it's Army called Ships, so they would not know they were being spoken of during revolts.

Slang used in the Jonah story refer to the Ship surrounding him (Roman army) in the Sea(Rome).

So we did see it took 3 ages before Jonah (Israel) came out of this Whale =Rome/Europe to be free again as Israel returned/restored/placed back(HaShev) exactly 3 ages(days) as prophesied in the Jonah story
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