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The Bible and "The Statue of Liberty"
Does that sound similar? It does sound very emphatic, "humane", merciful, deep, and powerful. Our God is good. Hallelujah.
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isaiah 55:1
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Emma Lazarus, The New Colossos originally on the statue of liberty, NY, USA.
 
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Isaiah was a Prophet for the children of Israel. True Israel. All twelve tribes of Israel. His message was to and for them.

The message found on the Statue of Liberty is inviting every freeloading, worthless third-worlder to come to America and enjoy her free handouts at taxpayer expense.

So, no ... the Bible and the Statue of Liberty aren't the same. The Bible has to be read in its entirety and in context.
 
The Bible and "The Statue of Liberty"
Does that sound similar? It does sound very emphatic, "humane", merciful, deep, and powerful. Our God is good. Hallelujah.
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isaiah 55:1
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Emma Lazarus, The New Colossos originally on the statue of liberty, NY, USA.

There is nothing Biblical about the Statue of Liberty. It was gifted to the United States by France in order to celebrate the alliance between the two countries during the American Revolution, and to honor the United States' independence and ideals of freedom.
 
There is nothing Biblical about the Statue of Liberty. It was gifted to the United States by France in order to celebrate the alliance between the two countries during the American Revolution, and to honor the United States' independence and ideals of freedom.
Not to mention that the statue, itself, is modeled after the Roman, pagan goddess, Mithra.

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Yes, the Holy Bible does speak about the Statue of Liberty as it sits in the land of Shinar which is Babylon America. A place full of abominations, liars, wicked, evil, and those whom God says have committed whordoms against him by way of adultery against him in worship of other gods.

God says this people are lovers of sin as they usher God out of their lives (sound familiar?) This rebellion starts with the brotherhood -the Freemasons and illuminati. From there it filters down to the homosexuals, liberal reproductive baby abortion killers (they now call baby murder "freedom).

In society they lie and say the Statue of Liberty represents freedom, and that is a lie. The truth is that it represents rebellion towards God. It is man's symbol of breaking away from God's righteousness, ordinances, law, and obedience. It represents man doing whatever he wants to do, and committing all sins he wants to commit including homosexual and lesbian abominations. The Statue of Liberty is against God. It is demonic.

On the Statue of Liberty there is a set of broken chains snapped apart on its feet. They are covered but not removed from the statue. In the Holy Bible it says, "

  • Psalms 2:3-12 “Let us break their chains and throw off their shackles.” The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them. He rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, “I have installed my king on Zion, my holy mountain.”
 
Someone at a Kamala Harris rally yelled, "Jesus is Lord"
She said you belong at the (Trump) rally down the street.

....connect the dots.

Kamala knows the group she represents is against God and his Word. They have broken the chains that bind them, and they live foul and sinfully wicked lives. I'm not sure if they wanted Kamala Harris to expose them as her sinfully wicked and demonic anti-God voters like she did; although they have no one else to vote for except her.
 
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Isaiah was a Prophet for the children of Israel. True Israel. All twelve tribes of Israel. His message was to and for them.

The message found on the Statue of Liberty is inviting every freeloading, worthless third-worlder to come to America and enjoy her free handouts at taxpayer expense.

So, no ... the Bible and the Statue of Liberty aren't the same. The Bible has to be read in its entirety and in context.
The poem on the Statue of Liberty----was written by Emma Lazarus----I poet who--actually did write in a biblical manner----in fact, in hebrew----most of the time
 
There is nothing Biblical about the Statue of Liberty. It was gifted to the United States by France in order to celebrate the alliance between the two countries during the American Revolution, and to honor the United States' independence and ideals of freedom.
seems to be kind of a "graven image" in biblical terminology.

i don't know if this "liberty" is an actual greco/ roman pagan diety, but that would add an extra biblical aspect.i
maybe morty is talking about the damn poem, who is it? emma lazerrus?
 
Isaiah was a Prophet for the children of Israel. True Israel. All twelve tribes of Israel. His message was to and for them.

The message found on the Statue of Liberty is inviting every freeloading, worthless third-worlder to come to America and enjoy her free handouts at taxpayer expense.

So, no ... the Bible and the Statue of Liberty aren't the same. The Bible has to be read in its entirety and in context.

"The twelve tribes of Israel" are spread across the world - including the United States.

Although I won't correlate what is written in Isaiah with the Statue of Liberty - your statement that, "The message found on the Statue of Liberty is inviting every freeloading, worthless third-worlder to come to America and enjoy her free handouts at taxpayer expense." Is borderline laughable. But I will give you all due respect and presume that you simply lack knowledge of history.


The Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World; French: La Liberté éclairant le monde) is a colossal neoclassical sculpture on Liberty Island in New York Harbor, within New York City. The copper-clad statue, a gift to the United States from the people of France, was designed by French sculptor Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi and its metal framework was built by Gustave Eiffel. The statue was dedicated on October 28, 1886.

The statue is a figure of a classically draped woman,[8] likely inspired by the Roman goddess of liberty Libertas.[9] In a contrapposto pose,[8][10] she holds a torch above her head with her right hand, and in her left hand carries a tabula ansata inscribed JULY IV MDCCLXXVI (July 4, 1776, in Roman numerals), the date of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. With her left foot she steps on a broken chain and shackle,[8] commemorating the national abolition of slavery following the American Civil War.[11][12][13] After its dedication the statue became an icon of freedom and of the United States, being subsequently seen as a symbol of welcome to immigrants arriving by sea.

The idea for the statue was conceived in 1865, when the French historian and abolitionist Édouard de Laboulaye proposed a monument to commemorate the upcoming centennial of U.S. independence (1876), the perseverance of American democracy and the liberation of the nation's slaves.[14] The Franco-Prussian War delayed progress until 1875, when Laboulaye proposed that the people of France finance the statue and the United States provide the site and build the pedestal. Bartholdi completed the head and the torch-bearing arm before the statue was fully designed, and these pieces were exhibited for publicity at international expositions.

The torch-bearing arm was displayed at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia in 1876, and in Madison Square Park in Manhattan from 1876 to 1882. Fundraising proved difficult, especially for the Americans, and by 1885 work on the pedestal was threatened by lack of funds. Publisher Joseph Pulitzer, of the New York World, started a drive for donations to finish the project and attracted more than 120,000 contributors, most of whom gave less than a dollar (equivalent to $34 in 2023). The statue was built in France, shipped overseas in crates, and assembled on the completed pedestal on what was then called Bedloe's Island. The statue's completion was marked by New York's first ticker-tape parade and a dedication ceremony presided over by President Grover Cleveland.

The statue was administered by the United States Lighthouse Board until 1901 and then by the Department of War; since 1933, it has been maintained by the National Park Service as part of the Statue of Liberty National Monument, and is a major tourist attraction. Limited numbers of visitors can access the rim of the pedestal and the interior of the statue's crown from within; public access to the torch has been barred since 1916.

Development​

Origin​

Both the Roman goddess Libertas and Sun god Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun", pictured) influenced the design of Liberty Enlightening the World.
According to the National Park Service, the idea of a monument presented by the French people to the United States was first proposed by Édouard René de Laboulaye, president of the French Anti-Slavery Society and a prominent and important political thinker of his time. The project is traced to a mid-1865 conversation between Laboulaye, a staunch abolitionist, and Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, a sculptor. In after-dinner conversation at his home near Versailles, Laboulaye, an ardent supporter of the Union in the American Civil War, is supposed to have said: "If a monument should rise in the United States, as a memorial to their independence, I should think it only natural if it were built by united effort—a common work of both our nations."[15] The National Park Service, in a 2000 report, however, deemed this a legend traced to an 1885 fundraising pamphlet, and that the statue was most likely conceived in 1870.[16] In another essay on their website, the Park Service suggested that Laboulaye was minded to honor the Union victory and its consequences, "With the abolition of slavery and the Union's victory in the Civil War in 1865, Laboulaye's wishes of freedom and democracy were turning into a reality in the United States. In order to honor these achievements, Laboulaye proposed that a gift be built for the United States on behalf of France. Laboulaye hoped that by calling attention to the recent achievements of the United States, the French people would be inspired to call for their own democracy in the face of a repressive monarchy."[17]






Not to mention that the statue, itself, is modeled after the Roman, pagan goddess, Mithra.

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Ironically, if you actually understood and followed the 2nd commandment you would never Idolize or claim that a statue is an "idol". You would take it for what it is - a statue representing what it represents - nothing more, nothing less - and certainly not an "idol".
 
Someone at a Kamala Harris rally yelled, "Jesus is Lord"
She said you belong at the (Trump) rally down the street.

....connect the dots.
Show the link or accept you're a useful idiot of Satan.
 
"The twelve tribes of Israel" are spread across the world - including the United States.
There are people who think the twelve tribes represent the european race or the black african race, for example black hebrew israelites think the israeli tribes are black africans, and christian identitists think it represents the white european nations such as "germans, anglo-saxons, french and all the others in europe". A jewish rabbi claimed we gypsies are a tribe of israel though.

 
"The twelve tribes of Israel" are spread across the world - including the United States.

Although I won't correlate what is written in Isaiah with the Statue of Liberty - your statement that, "The message found on the Statue of Liberty is inviting every freeloading, worthless third-worlder to come to America and enjoy her free handouts at taxpayer expense." Is borderline laughable. But I will give you all due respect and presume that you simply lack knowledge of history.


The Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World; French: La Liberté éclairant le monde) is a colossal neoclassical sculpture on Liberty Island in New York Harbor, within New York City. The copper-clad statue, a gift to the United States from the people of France, was designed by French sculptor Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi and its metal framework was built by Gustave Eiffel. The statue was dedicated on October 28, 1886.

The statue is a figure of a classically draped woman,[8] likely inspired by the Roman goddess of liberty Libertas.[9] In a contrapposto pose,[8][10] she holds a torch above her head with her right hand, and in her left hand carries a tabula ansata inscribed JULY IV MDCCLXXVI (July 4, 1776, in Roman numerals), the date of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. With her left foot she steps on a broken chain and shackle,[8] commemorating the national abolition of slavery following the American Civil War.[11][12][13] After its dedication the statue became an icon of freedom and of the United States, being subsequently seen as a symbol of welcome to immigrants arriving by sea.

The idea for the statue was conceived in 1865, when the French historian and abolitionist Édouard de Laboulaye proposed a monument to commemorate the upcoming centennial of U.S. independence (1876), the perseverance of American democracy and the liberation of the nation's slaves.[14] The Franco-Prussian War delayed progress until 1875, when Laboulaye proposed that the people of France finance the statue and the United States provide the site and build the pedestal. Bartholdi completed the head and the torch-bearing arm before the statue was fully designed, and these pieces were exhibited for publicity at international expositions.

The torch-bearing arm was displayed at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia in 1876, and in Madison Square Park in Manhattan from 1876 to 1882. Fundraising proved difficult, especially for the Americans, and by 1885 work on the pedestal was threatened by lack of funds. Publisher Joseph Pulitzer, of the New York World, started a drive for donations to finish the project and attracted more than 120,000 contributors, most of whom gave less than a dollar (equivalent to $34 in 2023). The statue was built in France, shipped overseas in crates, and assembled on the completed pedestal on what was then called Bedloe's Island. The statue's completion was marked by New York's first ticker-tape parade and a dedication ceremony presided over by President Grover Cleveland.

The statue was administered by the United States Lighthouse Board until 1901 and then by the Department of War; since 1933, it has been maintained by the National Park Service as part of the Statue of Liberty National Monument, and is a major tourist attraction. Limited numbers of visitors can access the rim of the pedestal and the interior of the statue's crown from within; public access to the torch has been barred since 1916.

Development​

Origin​

Both the Roman goddess Libertas and Sun god Sol Invictus ("The Unconquered Sun", pictured) influenced the design of Liberty Enlightening the World.
According to the National Park Service, the idea of a monument presented by the French people to the United States was first proposed by Édouard René de Laboulaye, president of the French Anti-Slavery Society and a prominent and important political thinker of his time. The project is traced to a mid-1865 conversation between Laboulaye, a staunch abolitionist, and Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, a sculptor. In after-dinner conversation at his home near Versailles, Laboulaye, an ardent supporter of the Union in the American Civil War, is supposed to have said: "If a monument should rise in the United States, as a memorial to their independence, I should think it only natural if it were built by united effort—a common work of both our nations."[15] The National Park Service, in a 2000 report, however, deemed this a legend traced to an 1885 fundraising pamphlet, and that the statue was most likely conceived in 1870.[16] In another essay on their website, the Park Service suggested that Laboulaye was minded to honor the Union victory and its consequences, "With the abolition of slavery and the Union's victory in the Civil War in 1865, Laboulaye's wishes of freedom and democracy were turning into a reality in the United States. In order to honor these achievements, Laboulaye proposed that a gift be built for the United States on behalf of France. Laboulaye hoped that by calling attention to the recent achievements of the United States, the French people would be inspired to call for their own democracy in the face of a repressive monarchy."[17]








Ironically, if you actually understood and followed the 2nd commandment you would never Idolize or claim that a statue is an "idol". You would take it for what it is - a statue representing what it represents - nothing more, nothing less - and certainly not an "idol".
Regardless of the intent of the statue's original maker or the statue's original purpose, it has come to be described by the far left as an invitation. An invitation to anyone and everyone seeking to partake in America's abundance and to gorge themselves on her “milk and honey.” It has become a symbol of Socialism, where the “have-nots” have every right to share in the fruits of the “haves.” Why else would the far left use taxpayer money to feed and house; educate and medicate talentless and, often times, criminal peoples pouring over our borders illegally?

The 2nd Commandment was given directly to Moses as one of the many Commandments He expected His children (the twelve tribes of Israel) to follow. Yes ... the 12 tribes are “scattered abroad” as James 1:1 indicates. Yes, they are found on the continent of Europe (Scandinavia, Britain, Germany), Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, and even dying South Africa. And though non-Israelites could certainly benefit from following the 10 Commandments, they were never obligated to do so.

The Statue of Liberty IS built around a pagan goddess, and many there be who worship it as such.

Regardless, the original intent of the Founding Fathers was to create a nation for the benefit of themselves and their “posterity.” They never in a million years envisioned America as a melting pot of “diversity.” They never intended to create a second Tower of Babel. Unfortunately, Babel is what America has become thanks, in part, to the invitation found at the base of the statue.
 
Regardless of the intent of the statue's original maker or the statue's original purpose, it has come to be described by the far left as an invitation. An invitation to anyone and everyone seeking to partake in America's abundance and to gorge themselves on her “milk and honey.” It has become a symbol of Socialism, where the “have-nots” have every right to share in the fruits of the “haves.” Why else would the far left use taxpayer money to feed and house; educate and medicate talentless and, often times, criminal peoples pouring over our borders illegally?

The 2nd Commandment was given directly to Moses as one of the many Commandments He expected His children (the twelve tribes of Israel) to follow. Yes ... the 12 tribes are “scattered abroad” as James 1:1 indicates. Yes, they are found on the continent of Europe (Scandinavia, Britain, Germany), Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, and even dying South Africa. And though non-Israelites could certainly benefit from following the 10 Commandments, they were never obligated to do so.

The Statue of Liberty IS built around a pagan goddess, and many there be who worship it as such.

Regardless, the original intent of the Founding Fathers was to create a nation for the benefit of themselves and their “posterity.” They never in a million years envisioned America as a melting pot of “diversity.” They never intended to create a second Tower of Babel. Unfortunately, Babel is what America has become thanks, in part, to the invitation found at the base of the statue.
I see deep "humanity" in both quotes, im not sure of the context of isaiah if he invited only "the twelve tribes of israel" or "all humans who are thirsty" though. It was just a vague idea, from me when i read it yesterday, it reminded me of. Im not claiming im a scholar of the bible or know it all.
 
Regardless of the intent of the statue's original maker or the statue's original purpose, it has come to be described by the far left as an invitation. An invitation to anyone and everyone seeking to partake in America's abundance and to gorge themselves on her “milk and honey.” It has become a symbol of Socialism, where the “have-nots” have every right to share in the fruits of the “haves.” Why else would the far left use taxpayer money to feed and house; educate and medicate talentless and, often times, criminal peoples pouring over our borders illegally?

The 2nd Commandment was given directly to Moses as one of the many Commandments He expected His children (the twelve tribes of Israel) to follow. Yes ... the 12 tribes are “scattered abroad” as James 1:1 indicates. Yes, they are found on the continent of Europe (Scandinavia, Britain, Germany), Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, and even dying South Africa. And though non-Israelites could certainly benefit from following the 10 Commandments, they were never obligated to do so.

The Statue of Liberty IS built around a pagan goddess, and many there be who worship it as such.

Regardless, the original intent of the Founding Fathers was to create a nation for the benefit of themselves and their “posterity.” They never in a million years envisioned America as a melting pot of “diversity.” They never intended to create a second Tower of Babel. Unfortunately, Babel is what America has become thanks, in part, to the invitation found at the base of the statue.


Almost "Everyone" that came to America - whether in the 1500's all the way to present day were "Have-nots" in search of a better life - likely including your ancestors. (Unless you are Native American).

LEGAL Immigration is what built this country and the main reason it has become The United States of America. We would not be having this conversation on a computer, via the internet, if things did not play out exactly as they did.

I understand your frustration and concern for "illegal immigration" but the last thing anyone should do is conflate historical "legal immigration" with current events (illegal immigration, etc).
 
I see deep "humanity" in both quotes, im not sure of the context of isaiah if he invited only "the twelve tribes of israel" or "all humans who are thirsty" though. It was just a vague idea, from me when i read it yesterday, it reminded me of. Im not claiming im a scholar of the bible or know it all.
That's fair. I understand your underlying intent.

But I am a scholar of the Bible and I'm also a realist. Knowing what I know about the Bible as compared to what I know about modern politics and anti-Bible philosophies leaves me no choice but to reach the conclusions that I do. The topic of this thread barely scratches the surface where God's Word vs. satanic counterfeits are concerned.
 
Almost "Everyone" that came to America - whether in the 1500's all the way to present day were "Have-nots" in search of a better life - likely including your ancestors. (Unless you are Native American).

LEGAL Immigration is what built this country and the main reason it has become The United States of America. We would not be having this conversation on a computer, via the internet, if things did not play out exactly as they did.

I understand your frustration and concern for "illegal immigration" but the last thing anyone should do is conflate historical "legal immigration" with current events (illegal immigration, etc).
But the Founding Fathers and their kin turned a desolate landscape into a prosperous and fruitful nation through hard work, innovation, genius, and integrity. Today, peoples from around the globe are coming from crapholes seeking a piece of someone else's pie.
 
But the Founding Fathers and their kin turned a desolate landscape into a prosperous and fruitful nation through hard work, innovation, genius, and integrity. Today, peoples from around the globe are coming from crapholes seeking a piece of someone else's pie.
The Founding Fathers laid out the "blue print" (The U.S. Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, etc) - and yes, the risks and sacrifices they made laid the foundation of the United States. It's through this "Blue Print" that "Free Thinkers" such as Benjamin Franklin used their ingenuity to create, invent, etc. From that point forward, peoples from almost every nation, all walks of life migrated to the United States and continued to work hard, and helped this country become what it is today.

Your gripe should be with illegal immigration and the current issues that arise from it.

As far as legal immigration - even today - it is a necessity if we want to continue to grow and develop as a nation. Migrant farmers, for example, are essentially a necessity if we want to keep our farming/produce industries competitive with the rest of world. (Do you prefer produce and vegetables from the U.S. or from other countries?).

Even technological sectors that rely on the most brilliant minds of the world to remain competitive rely (in part) on legal immigration. (Do you want the United States to remain dominant in technological advances or would you prefer that China, India and so forth to dominated?) There are dozens of other examples but I hope you get the point. "America First" only can continue to be first through legal immigration - the way it has been for over 200 years.

That said - Legal immigration should never be abused and/or used primarily for "political gain" - which could also be a valid concern.
 

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