The best thing libertarians can do right now is support Republicans

No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Hell. No. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarian.
Yea but libertarians will vote for trump don’t worry. Libertarians are just cons who’ve been let down by republicans too much to say they are republicans.
People who call themselves libertarians, yet vote Republican aren't libertarians - big L or otherwise, they're just Republicans who don't want to admit they're Republicans.

LO2E is fraud.
Voting for ANYONE other than Trump is playing Russian Roulette with our nation. Your personal values won't save you from a radical take over of our nation.
Biden is a moderate not a radical

He will return us to normalcy

Biden was a moderate 25 years ago. Now he's whatever his handlers are, and they are radical left
Nah that’s just what republicans say every 4 years. You said it about Clinton, he was a moderate. You said it about Obama, he was a moderate too. Hillary would have been a moderate too.

Trump could have been a moderate but the far right got him elected so he’s serving them not mainstream America.

You think Obama and Hillary are moderates? How far left do you lean? Can you even walk upright?
That’s the progressives plan. Lean so far left that the fringe looks moderate ;)
Actually that’s what cons did. Youve pulled this country too far right. Look at the Supreme Court. This country isn’t that conservative

You think this country is being pulled by the ... right? Be honest, you lean so far left you actually can't walk upright
 
That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

Buddy, the Libertarians have ALWAYS been the "Gag" party.



Telling the same joke five times is fundamentally different than telling five jokes.

Libertarians had a good run under candidates like Ron Paul, Harry Browne and Badnarick. Unfortunately after that they stopped nominating libertarians

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

I'm sorry, who was "electronically lynched", exactly? It seems to me that every sad ass Uncle Tom who gets out there telling audiences of white people how shiftless the other Negroes is doing well enough. Except for Herman Cain, but that was his own damned fault. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

And why are any of these bad ideas? We really do need to get off fossil fuels... they are destroying the planet. We have more than enough wealth for universal health care and minimum income. We just choose not to.

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

First, until Trump crashed the economy, and instigated race riots, crime was at record lows in this country.


- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start

Again, this is a bad thing, why? Other countries have these things, and frankly, they are a lot better off than we are. Now, if you are a libertarian child who thinks that civilization can happen without government, that's fine and all.

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Uh, guy, the Republicans are putting kids in cages and have storm troopers throwing peaceful demonstrators into vans. If anyone has gotten "Worse", it's the Republicans. They stopped being about ideas and have just become "The Cult of Trump".

Libertarians are supporting police-state tactics.
Christians are excusing a man who cheats on his wife and fucks porn stars.
Security conservatives are defending selling out our allies and pulling away from our international commitments.

In short, you are now supporting things you HAVE crucified past Democratic presidents for. Hey, remember the good old days when you impeached Clinton for getting a blow job from an intern. Well, screw that, Trump can pay off Stormy Daniels, and you'll not only defend him, you'll support his hiding his tax records from law enforcement.

That you're a Marxist is not exactly new news
 
Do
Libertarians
Agree
That
A
Child's
Constitutional
Rights
Should
Begin
When
Their
Life
Does?

No, Libertarians don't think the Government Should regulate a woman's Uterus.

Because that would be stupid.

Actually, most libertarians are pro-choice. Stop speaking for us since you don't know what the hell you're talking about
 
There are people on both sides of the issue....I came around to the full throated pro life side when Project Veritas demonstrated to me that the abortionists are complete heartless ghouls, who look upon fetuses with no more regard than the auto parts yard looks at old junkers....IOW. I was persuaded through compelling evidence.

So someone doctors a video of a legal and medically beneficial practice, (Those tissues are donated and they help people medically), and you found that compelling?

Therefore, I strongly suggest that you folks the pro life movement put as much effort and energy in the direction of persuasion of fence sitters like me, as you do into the obstinate piety for which y'all are renowned.

if you guys were serious about their being less abortions, you'd support Single Payer Health Care, Paid Family Leave, universal sex education (religion free) and the distribution of contraception. That's how you get to less abortions, if you guys were really serious about that.

This is what France has, and they have half the number of abortions we have. Abortion is paid for up to the 12th week, after that a Doctor has to sign off on it... But a pregnancy isn't a crisis situation in France like it is here, so less women have abortions.

MEANWHILE, if you want to look at a country that has what you want - too much religion and stupid laws banning abortion - you can look at the Philippines. Abortion is illegal in most cases, but they have 800,000 abortions a year (more than the US with a third of our population).
 
No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Hell. No. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarian.
Yea but libertarians will vote for trump don’t worry. Libertarians are just cons who’ve been let down by republicans too much to say they are republicans.
People who call themselves libertarians, yet vote Republican aren't libertarians - big L or otherwise, they're just Republicans who don't want to admit they're Republicans.

LO2E is fraud.
Voting for ANYONE other than Trump is playing Russian Roulette with our nation. Your personal values won't save you from a radical take over of our nation.
Biden is a moderate not a radical

He will return us to normalcy
Biden has dementia...he isn’t going to be running anything.
Trumps got dementia too. He’s literally gone insane.
If that were true you idiots would have tried harder to present a decent candidate. You didn’t.
Trump is a decent man?

She said decent "candidate." Your reading skills are just awful. Don't you want better for your children than the crappy government education you got?
I don’t have kids and my two nephews go to really expensive private schools. The oldest is going to Michigan state university in the fall.

My family will be ok for at least the next generation and with the head start they’ve gotten from their rich father their kids will probably do well too.

Cant say that for most of you struggling middle class Americans but if you think trumps going to make your life better by all means vote for him, sucker
 
Telling the same joke five times is fundamentally different than telling five jokes.

Libertarians had a good run under candidates like Ron Paul, Harry Browne and Badnarick. Unfortunately after that they stopped nominating libertarians

Uh, you guys never got more than 1% of the vote. The real problem is that the Koch Brothers (May they Burn in Hell) decided to stop funding the "Joke" and decided to infiltrate the GOP with their awful ideas.

That you're a Marxist is not exactly new news

Yes, everyone who doesn't want to bend over to make the rich richer while we all drink poison water and breathe poison air is a "Marxist".

Actually, most libertarians are pro-choice. Stop speaking for us since you don't know what the hell you're talking about

Actually, I just snikcer at you.. Libertarians are Children with Adult Defiance Disorder. I find it hilarious you talk about "Liberty" all day, but think it's fine when the cops execute black folks in the street for petty offenses.
 
if you guys were serious about their being less abortions, you'd support Single Payer Health Care, Paid Family Leave, universal sex education (religion free) and the distribution of contraception. That's how you get to less abortions, if you guys were really serious about that.

Planned Parenthood has done more to prevent abortions than Republican Policies
 
There are people on both sides of the issue....I came around to the full throated pro life side when Project Veritas demonstrated to me that the abortionists are complete heartless ghouls, who look upon fetuses with no more regard than the auto parts yard looks at old junkers....IOW. I was persuaded through compelling evidence.

So someone doctors a video of a legal and medically beneficial practice, (Those tissues are donated and they help people medically), and you found that compelling?

Therefore, I strongly suggest that you folks the pro life movement put as much effort and energy in the direction of persuasion of fence sitters like me, as you do into the obstinate piety for which y'all are renowned.

if you guys were serious about their being less abortions, you'd support Single Payer Health Care, Paid Family Leave, universal sex education (religion free) and the distribution of contraception. That's how you get to less abortions, if you guys were really serious about that.

This is what France has, and they have half the number of abortions we have. Abortion is paid for up to the 12th week, after that a Doctor has to sign off on it... But a pregnancy isn't a crisis situation in France like it is here, so less women have abortions.

MEANWHILE, if you want to look at a country that has what you want - too much religion and stupid laws banning abortion - you can look at the Philippines. Abortion is illegal in most cases, but they have 800,000 abortions a year (more than the US with a third of our population).

Anything else you want to put on your wish list of free government shit you want? I don't see cheese on the list. Free government cheese is the best. You should ask for that too
 
There are people on both sides of the issue....I came around to the full throated pro life side when Project Veritas demonstrated to me that the abortionists are complete heartless ghouls, who look upon fetuses with no more regard than the auto parts yard looks at old junkers....IOW. I was persuaded through compelling evidence.

So someone doctors a video of a legal and medically beneficial practice, (Those tissues are donated and they help people medically), and you found that compelling?

Therefore, I strongly suggest that you folks the pro life movement put as much effort and energy in the direction of persuasion of fence sitters like me, as you do into the obstinate piety for which y'all are renowned.

if you guys were serious about their being less abortions, you'd support Single Payer Health Care, Paid Family Leave, universal sex education (religion free) and the distribution of contraception. That's how you get to less abortions, if you guys were really serious about that.

This is what France has, and they have half the number of abortions we have. Abortion is paid for up to the 12th week, after that a Doctor has to sign off on it... But a pregnancy isn't a crisis situation in France like it is here, so less women have abortions.

MEANWHILE, if you want to look at a country that has what you want - too much religion and stupid laws banning abortion - you can look at the Philippines. Abortion is illegal in most cases, but they have 800,000 abortions a year (more than the US with a third of our population).

Anything else you want to put on your wish list of free government shit you want? I don't see cheese on the list. Free government cheese is the best. You should ask for that too

And a pony. I want a pony.
 
I don’t have kids and my two nephews go to really expensive private schools. The oldest is going to Michigan state university in the fall

Michigan State? OMG, they couldn't get into a real school? What a waste of money then on "really expensive private schools." Mighigan fucking State.

Buy hey, if they want to grow corn or stick their hand inside a cow, they are going to do all right there.

Go Blue!
 
Us Republicans in Michigan 3 yesterday nominated Pete Meijer to crush the dimocrat opponent in November for the seat held by libertarian Justin Amash, who declined to seek reelection because he knew we were gonna can his worthless ass.
 
I don’t have kids and my two nephews go to really expensive private schools. The oldest is going to Michigan state university in the fall

Michigan State? OMG, they couldn't get into a real school? What a waste of money then on "really expensive private schools." Mighigan fucking State.

Buy hey, if they want to grow corn or stick their hand inside a cow, they are going to do all right there.

Go Blue!
Amen!

Know what Michigan and Michigan State students have in common? They were all accepted by Michigan State.
 
Us Republicans in Michigan 3 yesterday nominated Pete Meijer to crush the dimocrat opponent in November for the seat held by libertarian Justin Amash, who declined to seek reelection because he knew we were gonna can his worthless ass.

Yep. That's what happens when libertarians convince themselves Republicans are on our side. They're not.

Libertarians who vote Republican are like Vegetarians who eat meat. They're not what they claim.
 
Swing and a miss.

You shouldn't make assumptions. Those were especially off. I make no reference to the things you are attributing to me.
In your opinion-

I never assume. I responded to what you typed. It's obviously not a response you approve of, but, it is the correct response. Words mean things, or they don't.
 
No, the Republican haven't done anything to merit support. I'm not even going to try. But:

Democrats are

- No longer just a lesser evil. They are actual evil. They have taken race whoring to epic proportions. Race relations have done nothing but go down and it's been a clear Democrat strategy to accomplish that to get blacks to the polls to vote blue. That while they ramp up the electronic lynching of any black who tries not to be a Democrat to send a message to the rest of the blacks what will happen to them if they do the same

- Pushing the green new deal to get Marxism. The reality is we aren't technologically advanced enough yet to get off fossil fuels. Yet they want to spend trillions. And it's just a shallow marketing cover for Marxism. They are seriously pushing things like minimum income as "green"

- Turning our inner cities into violent turf. You can't even walk the streets anymore. Note too how even though there are NO Republicans involved in these inner city issues, Democrats try to use their own failures to draw votes

- Are just pushing endless Marxism, and for real. Not like the old days where they just ran as Marxists. They want single payer and government control over energy, financial services just to start


That while the Libertarian Party is now just a gag party

- Bob Barr, Gary Johnson and Gary Johnson? Three candidates in a row that weren't even libertarian

- Finally in 2020, we got Jo Jorgensen who is at least libertarian, but the Libertarian Party again had to prove it's just a gag party by picking Spike Cohen, the anarchist running mate of Vermin, a performance artist who wears a shoe as a hat and isn't even libertarian. The party can't be taken seriously at this point

I argued since circa 1990 thirty years ago that it really didn't matter if you didn't listen to the words and just looked at what they actually did. Now it matters. Not because the Republican have gotten any better, they haven't. But the Democrats have gone off the deep end. No more sticking our heads in the sand and pretending the parties are the same, they are not. And Democrats are to a point like despots and dictators that the have to be stopped.

Frankly if you can't vote Republican, at least vote for another third party until the Libertarian Party pulls its head out of its ass. Gone were the days of Harry Browne where we could vote for an actual libertarian. Badnarik wasn't bad either. But since then, it's sad

Hell. No. Trump is the polar opposite of libertarian.
Yea but libertarians will vote for trump don’t worry. Libertarians are just cons who’ve been let down by republicans too much to say they are republicans.
People who call themselves libertarians, yet vote Republican aren't libertarians - big L or otherwise, they're just Republicans who don't want to admit they're Republicans.

LO2E is fraud.
Voting for ANYONE other than Trump is playing Russian Roulette with our nation. Your personal values won't save you from a radical take over of our nation.
Biden is a moderate not a radical

He will return us to normalcy
Biden has dementia...he isn’t going to be running anything.
Trumps got dementia too. He’s literally gone insane.
If that were true you idiots would have tried harder to present a decent candidate. You didn’t.
Trump is a decent man?
Don’t whine about Trump and then offer up mentally challenged Biden as an alternative.
 
I find it hilarious you talk about "Liberty" all day, but think it's fine when the cops execute black folks in the street for petty offenses.

You know what's even funnier about this is that it's an all Democrat issue. Democrat cities, Democrats city counsels, Democrat police unions, Democrat governors and you think it's Republicans and libertarians doing this when we have no say over it at all. It's all you, Holmes. Democrats are the party of the KKK, segregation, slavery, Jim Crow and police brutality. Blacks need you like they need a knee on their neck. Oh yeah, you give them that too
 
I don’t have kids and my two nephews go to really expensive private schools. The oldest is going to Michigan state university in the fall

Michigan State? OMG, they couldn't get into a real school? What a waste of money then on "really expensive private schools." Mighigan fucking State.

Buy hey, if they want to grow corn or stick their hand inside a cow, they are going to do all right there.

Go Blue!
Amen!

Know what Michigan and Michigan State students have in common? They were all accepted by Michigan State.

"kaz" is short for my home town, Kalamazoo. And I am a Michigan alum
 
Anything else you want to put on your wish list of free government shit you want? I don't see cheese on the list. Free government cheese is the best. You should ask for that too

I can afford my own cheese.

The thing is, none of us can really afford Medical Treatment if we got really sick. This is what I figured out when I busted up my knee in 2007 and Cigna and my employer screwed me over. This was AFTER I paid premiums for years.

So we either...

1) Have a system of insurance, and hope the insurance companies don't rip us off and bankrupt us to make a bigger profit.

or

2) Have a system of government run health care, and don't put the Republicans in charge again because they'll only fuck it up.
 

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