The Balfour Declaration

[Shusha]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

 

[rylah]

The Balfour Declaration was incorporated into the British Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was to facilitate Palestinian citizenship for the Jews and help create an independent Palestinian state. Britain failed to do that and passed Palestine off to the UNSCOP.

Ignoring that, the Zionists unilaterally took over most of Palestine by illegal military conquest.

Well, you might be able to argue that Britain failed to accomplish the creation of an independent Palestinian state, but an independent Palestinian state was certainly created (Israel). As you stated, the intent was for the Jewish people (all of them) to have citizenship, which they did and do. As do the Arab people.

There was no military conquest. We know this because (as you stated above) the Jewish citizens had every right to be citizens. They weren't conquering anything, they were participating within the legal framework of the time.

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Zionism came as an answer to the discrimination and pogroms against Jews in Europe, Asia and Arab pogroms in Syria-Palestine. The dire situation of the Jewish community was a continuous condition of Palestine.

Zionist activity was supported and coordinated by Palestinian Jews. The tools they used were a culmination of an age-old administrative system that served to help Palestinian Jews and elsewhere to survive. The same mechanism of financial aid and communication were transferred into an organized political party, that could efficiently represent that effort on the international arena.

Political (not spiritual) Zionism had many flaws, but it was in no way foreign to Jews in Palestine.
BTW The grand-grand grandfather of Israeli's current president was a Palestinian Jew who built new neighborhoods in Jerusalem to solve the problem poverty and density . These people were an integral part of the Jewish community in Palestine.

Arabs on the other hand proclaimed a Sheik from Mecca to be their King...but You of course don't see it as a separate foreign entity because he was Arab.

 

[fanger]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

 

[Sixties Fan]

The ironic thing is that the British government has been downplaying the Balfour centenary, with only a single low-key official event that no one of note attendedon Wednesday night. The major effort to mark the occasion is a private dinner that Netanyahu and May will attend next week hosted by the current Lords Balfour and Rothschild.

(full article online)

Palestinian government: "Balfour Declaration the biggest political crime in history" ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

Neither were Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria, but that is what happens when an Empire loses a war. Germany lost land as well, possibly after both WW.

Cry a river, cry an ocean, those who lose lose, and that is it.
The Arabs lost all wars against Israel.
That's it.

 

[danielpalos]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

 

[danielpalos]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

Don't Jews come from Judea?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

Neither were Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria, but that is what happens when an Empire loses a war. Germany lost land as well, possibly after both WW.

Cry a river, cry an ocean, those who lose lose, and that is it.
The Arabs lost all wars against Israel.
That's it.

What war did the Palestinians lose against Israel?

 

[Hollie]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

Neither were Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria, but that is what happens when an Empire loses a war. Germany lost land as well, possibly after both WW.

Cry a river, cry an ocean, those who lose lose, and that is it.
The Arabs lost all wars against Israel.
That's it.

What war did the Palestinians lose against Israel?

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

Neither were Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria, but that is what happens when an Empire loses a war. Germany lost land as well, possibly after both WW.

Cry a river, cry an ocean, those who lose lose, and that is it.
The Arabs lost all wars against Israel.
That's it.

What war did the Palestinians lose against Israel?

There have only been little dalliances where the IDF has delivered islamic terrorist beatdowns to the various islamic terrorist franchises operating out of the islamic terrorist enclaves.

What a shame that the two, competing islamic terrorist franchises in gaza and the West bank have an interest in maintaining their status as welfare fraud recipients. Any establishment of an Islamic terrorist "state" would mean that the first islamic terrorist attack aimed at Israel from that "state" would be an act of war. There would be little cause for Israel to respond to such an act of war with the limited beatdowns they have delivered to date.

Your impotent gee-had of none is a hoot.

 

[fanger]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

"anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms." and no jew ever ask's what is it that we do to cause this?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

"anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms." and no jew ever ask's what is it that we do to cause this?

The CRIME Jews have committed is not having converted to either Christianity or Islam.

That is the most heinous crime any Jew can ever commit.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

What about all the self-hating sissy Jews who think Zionists are Trumpian deplorables?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Balfour Declaration was incorporated into the British Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was to facilitate Palestinian citizenship for the Jews and help create an independent Palestinian state. Britain failed to do that and passed Palestine off to the UNSCOP.

Ignoring that, the Zionists unilaterally took over most of Palestine by illegal military conquest.

Well, you might be able to argue that Britain failed to accomplish the creation of an independent Palestinian state, but an independent Palestinian state was certainly created (Israel). As you stated, the intent was for the Jewish people (all of them) to have citizenship, which they did and do. As do the Arab people.

There was no military conquest. We know this because (as you stated above) the Jewish citizens had every right to be citizens. They weren't conquering anything, they were participating within the legal framework of the time.

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Zionism came as an answer to the discrimination and pogroms against Jews in Europe, Asia and Arab pogroms in Syria-Palestine. The dire situation of the Jewish community was a continuous condition of Palestine.

Zionist activity was supported and coordinated by Palestinian Jews. The tools they used were a culmination of an age-old administrative system that served to help Palestinian Jews and elsewhere to survive. The same mechanism of financial aid and communication were transferred into an organized political party, that could efficiently represent that effort on the international arena.

Political (not spiritual) Zionism had many flaws, but it was in no way foreign to Jews in Palestine.
BTW The grand-grand grandfather of Israeli's current president was a Palestinian Jew who built new neighborhoods in Jerusalem to solve the problem poverty and density . These people were an integral part of the Jewish community in Palestine.

Arabs on the other hand proclaimed a Sheik from Mecca to be their King...but You of course don't see it as a separate foreign entity because he was Arab.

Offering the West a Decoy to the Jihad

Jews had suffered persecution for almost 2,000 years before Zionism. So. as usual when you listen to our billboard-information regime, there had to be more to it than what we're told to believe.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

"anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms." and no jew ever ask's what is it that we do to cause this?

The CRIME Jews have committed is not having converted to either Christianity or Islam.

That is the most heinous crime any Jew can ever commit.

Hitler didn't even care if the Jews converted or not; he wanted all Jews dead, period. So another dreadful crime of the Jews was just being alive!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. You keep trying to make this artificial distinction between the Jewish people and Zionists.

Palestine wasn’t in the first place the British Government’s to offer or give.

In 1917, when the British Government – by almost all accounts an occupying force in Palestine – issued this promise, they did so as an empire giddy on power. The promise by a coloniser to create an ethnically controlled state on the land of those it oppresses isn’t something to be celebrated today.
the Jewish community is not one cohesive body, its ideologies and outlooks not all common or shared. More than two-thirds of British Jews report to have a “sense of despair” every time an expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is approved.

I could tell you that to be critical of the Israeli government is not antisemitic, and neither is the belief that the Israeli state is an illegitimate force in its current form. I could tell you that yelling antisemitism when it isn’t there weakens and undermines its all too real consequences.
It's not 'antisemitic' for Jeremy Corbyn not to celebrate the centenary of the Balfour Declaration – it's sensible

Neither were Lebanon, Iraq, or Syria, but that is what happens when an Empire loses a war. Germany lost land as well, possibly after both WW.

Cry a river, cry an ocean, those who lose lose, and that is it.
The Arabs lost all wars against Israel.
That's it.

Polemophobia (Not Recognized by Shriveled Shrinks)

Look what happened when gutless and unpatriotic pacifism infected the world in between the World Wars.

 

[Shusha]

Should we ask any "astrologers", as to why the "stars were not in better alignment", in creating a State of Judea, for Jews?

That has nothing to do with the Balfour Declaration.
It was going to happen at one point or another, with Balfour or not as the Jews had no other choice considering how anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms.
The Jews needed their own sovereign country, on their own homeland.

Why do you call it State of Judea?

"anti Jewish feelings kept causing endless pogroms." and no jew ever ask's what is it that we do to cause this?

The CRIME Jews have committed is not having converted to either Christianity or Islam.

That is the most heinous crime any Jew can ever commit.

Hitler didn't even care if the Jews converted or not; he wanted all Jews dead, period. So another dreadful crime of the Jews was just being alive!

According to some (Tinmore) the crime of the Jews is to be in a place. No Jews at the lunch counter or the front of the bus.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Balfour Declaration was incorporated into the British Mandate for Palestine. The Mandate was to facilitate Palestinian citizenship for the Jews and help create an independent Palestinian state. Britain failed to do that and passed Palestine off to the UNSCOP.

Ignoring that, the Zionists unilaterally took over most of Palestine by illegal military conquest.

Well, you might be able to argue that Britain failed to accomplish the creation of an independent Palestinian state, but an independent Palestinian state was certainly created (Israel). As you stated, the intent was for the Jewish people (all of them) to have citizenship, which they did and do. As do the Arab people.

There was no military conquest. We know this because (as you stated above) the Jewish citizens had every right to be citizens. They weren't conquering anything, they were participating within the legal framework of the time.

The Zionist's colonial project was not part of Palestine. It was a separate entity.

Zionism came as an answer to the discrimination and pogroms against Jews in Europe, Asia and Arab pogroms in Syria-Palestine. The dire situation of the Jewish community was a continuous condition of Palestine.

Zionist activity was supported and coordinated by Palestinian Jews. The tools they used were a culmination of an age-old administrative system that served to help Palestinian Jews and elsewhere to survive. The same mechanism of financial aid and communication were transferred into an organized political party, that could efficiently represent that effort on the international arena.

Political (not spiritual) Zionism had many flaws, but it was in no way foreign to Jews in Palestine.
BTW The grand-grand grandfather of Israeli's current president was a Palestinian Jew who built new neighborhoods in Jerusalem to solve the problem poverty and density . These people were an integral part of the Jewish community in Palestine.

Arabs on the other hand proclaimed a Sheik from Mecca to be their King...but You of course don't see it as a separate foreign entity because he was Arab.

Offering the West a Decoy to the Jihad

Jews had suffered persecution for almost 2,000 years before Zionism. So. as usual when you listen to our billboard-information regime, there had to be more to it than what we're told to believe.

Yes, there is.

It is called the creation of Christianity and Islam and their murderous ideologies against Jews.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Indeed, nothing at all has changed with the Palestinians. They have not moved an inch in a hundred years. PLO chief and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas now demands that Britain officially renounce the Balfour Declaration and apologize for having issued it as if Lord Balfour was still foreign secretary and David Lloyd George was still prime minster.

And their growing chorus of supporters at the UN, throughout the Islamic world, and in Europe is similarly stuck in 1917.

(full article online)

COLUMN ONE: Balfour’s greatest of gifts

 

[Sixties Fan]

http://www.israelhayom.com/2017/10/27/the-ideal-that-moves-me/