The Balfour Declaration

[Sixties Fan]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

 

[theliq]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

 

[Sixties Fan]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

All of that is thoroughly documented, you uneducated Moron.

They had a brain and knew that endorsing the Jewish rights to sovereignty on their own ancient Homeland would be a good thing for all Arabs.
The Al Husseini clan thought otherwise. And all the Arabs lost.
And continue to be the losers.
-----------------

As late as August 1947, al-Wahda newspaper advocated the incorporation of Palestine into "Greater Syria."

Conclusion
Mahmoud Abbas's rejection of the Jewish right to national self-determination, which was acknowledged a hundred years ago by the international community, including the world's foremost Muslim power, leaders of the pan-Arab movement, and ordinary Palestinian Arabs, affords a sad testament to the unchanging nature of the Palestinian leadership's recalcitrance.

It was Hajj Amin Husseini's predication of Palestinian national identity on hatred of the "other" rather than on a distinct shared legacy that "paved the road for the Nakba of Palestinian people and their dispossession and displacement from their land." And it was Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas's persistence in this zero-sum approach, despite their feigned moderation in the Oslo peace charade, which ensured the perpetuation of Palestinian dispersal and statelessness to date. It is only by shedding their century-long revanchist dreams and opting for peace and reconciliation with their Israeli neighbors that Palestinian leaders can end their people's suffering. And what can be a better starting point for this sea change than endorsement of the Balfour Declaration rather than its atavistic denigration?

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

 

[theliq]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

All of that is thoroughly documented, you uneducated Moron.

They had a brain and knew that endorsing the Jewish rights to sovereignty on their own ancient Homeland would be a good thing for all Arabs.
The Al Husseini clan thought otherwise. And all the Arabs lost.
And continue to be the losers.
-----------------

As late as August 1947, al-Wahda newspaper advocated the incorporation of Palestine into "Greater Syria."

Conclusion
Mahmoud Abbas's rejection of the Jewish right to national self-determination, which was acknowledged a hundred years ago by the international community, including the world's foremost Muslim power, leaders of the pan-Arab movement, and ordinary Palestinian Arabs, affords a sad testament to the unchanging nature of the Palestinian leadership's recalcitrance.

It was Hajj Amin Husseini's predication of Palestinian national identity on hatred of the "other" rather than on a distinct shared legacy that "paved the road for the Nakba of Palestinian people and their dispossession and displacement from their land." And it was Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas's persistence in this zero-sum approach, despite their feigned moderation in the Oslo peace charade, which ensured the perpetuation of Palestinian dispersal and statelessness to date. It is only by shedding their century-long revanchist dreams and opting for peace and reconciliation with their Israeli neighbors that Palestinian leaders can end their people's suffering. And what can be a better starting point for this sea change than endorsement of the Balfour Declaration rather than its atavistic denigration?

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Lying Zionist,you filth never wanted or want Peace...MORON

 

[Sixties Fan]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

All of that is thoroughly documented, you uneducated Moron.

They had a brain and knew that endorsing the Jewish rights to sovereignty on their own ancient Homeland would be a good thing for all Arabs.
The Al Husseini clan thought otherwise. And all the Arabs lost.
And continue to be the losers.
-----------------

As late as August 1947, al-Wahda newspaper advocated the incorporation of Palestine into "Greater Syria."

Conclusion
Mahmoud Abbas's rejection of the Jewish right to national self-determination, which was acknowledged a hundred years ago by the international community, including the world's foremost Muslim power, leaders of the pan-Arab movement, and ordinary Palestinian Arabs, affords a sad testament to the unchanging nature of the Palestinian leadership's recalcitrance.

It was Hajj Amin Husseini's predication of Palestinian national identity on hatred of the "other" rather than on a distinct shared legacy that "paved the road for the Nakba of Palestinian people and their dispossession and displacement from their land." And it was Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas's persistence in this zero-sum approach, despite their feigned moderation in the Oslo peace charade, which ensured the perpetuation of Palestinian dispersal and statelessness to date. It is only by shedding their century-long revanchist dreams and opting for peace and reconciliation with their Israeli neighbors that Palestinian leaders can end their people's suffering. And what can be a better starting point for this sea change than endorsement of the Balfour Declaration rather than its atavistic denigration?

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Lying Zionist,you filth never wanted or want Peace...MORON

Stop insulting King Faisal and all other intelligent Arabs.

They had brains and actually spoke to the Jews.

You are just memorex from all the Jew hating sites, books, media you have swallowed your whole life.

Choose life, choose peace.

The Jewish people, never mind if becoming sovereign over one's own ancient homeland is called Zionism or anything else, HAVE the right to live on their ancient homeland even if the Al Husseini, Tamimi, Nasrallah of the world do not want to see Jews being sovereign of their own destiny, but rather, the "Let me have the pleasure of beating up some Jews today" ideology some Arabs have had for the previous 1300 years.

Stop your ignorance. That is the first step.

 

[danielpalos]

I believe the problem is, no actual State of Judea was created; and now, we have no Judeans, but Only, Israelis and the Israelites.

 

[theliq]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

All of that is thoroughly documented, you uneducated Moron.

They had a brain and knew that endorsing the Jewish rights to sovereignty on their own ancient Homeland would be a good thing for all Arabs.
The Al Husseini clan thought otherwise. And all the Arabs lost.
And continue to be the losers.
-----------------

As late as August 1947, al-Wahda newspaper advocated the incorporation of Palestine into "Greater Syria."

Conclusion
Mahmoud Abbas's rejection of the Jewish right to national self-determination, which was acknowledged a hundred years ago by the international community, including the world's foremost Muslim power, leaders of the pan-Arab movement, and ordinary Palestinian Arabs, affords a sad testament to the unchanging nature of the Palestinian leadership's recalcitrance.

It was Hajj Amin Husseini's predication of Palestinian national identity on hatred of the "other" rather than on a distinct shared legacy that "paved the road for the Nakba of Palestinian people and their dispossession and displacement from their land." And it was Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas's persistence in this zero-sum approach, despite their feigned moderation in the Oslo peace charade, which ensured the perpetuation of Palestinian dispersal and statelessness to date. It is only by shedding their century-long revanchist dreams and opting for peace and reconciliation with their Israeli neighbors that Palestinian leaders can end their people's suffering. And what can be a better starting point for this sea change than endorsement of the Balfour Declaration rather than its atavistic denigration?

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Lying Zionist,you filth never wanted or want Peace...MORON

Stop insulting King Faisal and all other intelligent Arabs.

They had brains and actually spoke to the Jews.

You are just memorex from all the Jew hating sites, books, media you have swallowed your whole life.

Choose life, choose peace.

The Jewish people, never mind if becoming sovereign over one's own ancient homeland is called Zionism or anything else, HAVE the right to live on their ancient homeland even if the Al Husseini, Tamimi, Nasrallah of the world do not want to see Jews being sovereign of their own destiny, but rather, the "Let me have the pleasure of beating up some Jews today" ideology some Arabs have had for the previous 1300 years.

Stop your ignorance. That is the first step.

Sorry you can say what you like,try to make out Everyone thought having a Jewish State in Palestine was a good thing...Stop Being A Bloody Idiot...Europe did not want Jews and wanted to dump them in Uganda but the Zionists wanted part of PALESTINE and did everything to do that,your analogy that I hate Jews somehow is Crap...What I detest is Zionism and everything associated with this disreputable Terrorist Organization.

I believe in a two state solution but Zionists do not ever and never will

 

[Sixties Fan]

Even the Ottoman Empire, head of the world's Muslim community, seemed to have acknowledged the right of the Jews to collective revival in their ancestral homeland. On August 12, 1918, Grand Vizier Talaat Pasha, one of the triumvirs who had run the empire since 1913, issued an official communiqué expressing "sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well-organized immigration and colonization" and offering to promote this enterprise "by all means" provided it "does not affect the rights of the non-Jewish population."[8]

Largely modeled on the Balfour Declaration and formulated in a similar process of lengthy discussions with prominent Jewish leaders, Talaat's proclamation came too late to have real significance—two-and-a-half months after its issuance, the Ottomans surrendered to the Allies—and was apparently designed to improve the Muslim empire's bargaining position in the looming postwar peace talks. Yet its issuance was nothing short of extraordinary given the violent Ottoman reaction to anything that smacked of national self-determination, from the Greek war of independence in the 1820s, to the Balkan wars of the 1870s, to the Armenian genocide of World War I. Indeed, only a year before the declaration, the Jewish community in Palestine (or the Yishuv) faced a real risk of extinction from the Ottomans for the very same reason, only to be saved through intervention by Germany, Istanbul's senior war ally.

Arabs Embrace the Declaration
Emir Faisal. Talaat was hardly the only regional potentate to accept the Jewish right to national revival. The leaders of the nascent pan-Arab movement were perfectly amenable to endorsing the Balfour Declaration so long as this seemed to be conducive to their ambitions. And none more so than the Hashemite emirs Faisal and Abdullah who, together with their father, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein ibn Ali, perpetrated the "Great Arab War" against the Ottoman Empire. They were, as it happened, generously rewarded for their endeavors in the form of vast territories several times the size of the British Isles. Yet since these spectacular gains (which comprise the current states of Iraq, Jordan, and parts of Saudi Arabia) only served to whet their appetite, the emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

The Hashemite emirs continued to pursue their imperial ambitions under the pan-Arab guise.

Even during the revolt, Faisal began toying with the idea of establishing his own Syrian empire, independent of his father's prospective regional empire. In late 1917 and early 1918, he went so far as to negotiate this option with key members of the Ottoman leadership behind the backs of his father and his British allies. As his terms were rejected by Istanbul, Faisal tried to gain great-power endorsement for his imperial dream, and it was here that his interests seemed to converge with that of the Zionist movement.

On June 4, 1918, Faisal met Chaim Weizmann, the Russia-born, Manchester-based rising head of the Zionist movement. The two struck up an immediate rapport, and the emir readily acknowledged "the necessity for cooperation between Jews and Arabs" and "the possibility of Jewish claims to territory in Palestine." Yet he refused to discuss Palestine's future until such a time "when Arab affairs were more consolidated."[9]

(full article online)

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Moron

All of that is thoroughly documented, you uneducated Moron.

They had a brain and knew that endorsing the Jewish rights to sovereignty on their own ancient Homeland would be a good thing for all Arabs.
The Al Husseini clan thought otherwise. And all the Arabs lost.
And continue to be the losers.
-----------------

As late as August 1947, al-Wahda newspaper advocated the incorporation of Palestine into "Greater Syria."

Conclusion
Mahmoud Abbas's rejection of the Jewish right to national self-determination, which was acknowledged a hundred years ago by the international community, including the world's foremost Muslim power, leaders of the pan-Arab movement, and ordinary Palestinian Arabs, affords a sad testament to the unchanging nature of the Palestinian leadership's recalcitrance.

It was Hajj Amin Husseini's predication of Palestinian national identity on hatred of the "other" rather than on a distinct shared legacy that "paved the road for the Nakba of Palestinian people and their dispossession and displacement from their land." And it was Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas's persistence in this zero-sum approach, despite their feigned moderation in the Oslo peace charade, which ensured the perpetuation of Palestinian dispersal and statelessness to date. It is only by shedding their century-long revanchist dreams and opting for peace and reconciliation with their Israeli neighbors that Palestinian leaders can end their people's suffering. And what can be a better starting point for this sea change than endorsement of the Balfour Declaration rather than its atavistic denigration?

Turks, Arabs Welcomed the Balfour Declaration

Lying Zionist,you filth never wanted or want Peace...MORON

Stop insulting King Faisal and all other intelligent Arabs.

They had brains and actually spoke to the Jews.

You are just memorex from all the Jew hating sites, books, media you have swallowed your whole life.

Choose life, choose peace.

The Jewish people, never mind if becoming sovereign over one's own ancient homeland is called Zionism or anything else, HAVE the right to live on their ancient homeland even if the Al Husseini, Tamimi, Nasrallah of the world do not want to see Jews being sovereign of their own destiny, but rather, the "Let me have the pleasure of beating up some Jews today" ideology some Arabs have had for the previous 1300 years.

Stop your ignorance. That is the first step.

Sorry you can say what you like,try to make out Everyone thought having a Jewish State in Palestine was a good thing...Stop Being A Bloody Idiot...Europe did not want Jews and wanted to dump them in Uganda but the Zionists wanted part of PALESTINE and did everything to do that,your analogy that I hate Jews somehow is Crap...What I detest is Zionism and everything associated with this disreputable Terrorist Organization.

I believe in a two state solution but Zionists do not ever and never will

Reread what I wrote. It says that some Arab clans, especially from Arabia, especially King Faisal, were very much for the Balfour Declaration and a sovereign Jewish State ON ancient Jewish homeland. No one else's homeland. Only on the Jewish ancient land.

The Jews did not want part of Uganda because it is not their ancient homeland, it belongs to someone else in Africa. Africa is not the Jewish ancient homeland, Uganda, Kenia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Libya, Morocco, Egypt.....name it.

But Palestine is the ancient homeland of the Jewish people. It has been for over 3000 years as many historical documents from all who ever did business with the Jewish Nation, or invaded the Jewish Nation will attest to it.

Some countries in Europe did not want the Jews, because they are Asians, from Asia Minor, from what the Romans decided to call after a Jewish revolt, Syria Palestinea.

Good for you. Hate the Jewish right to be sovereign on their own ancient homeland. Call them terrorists for defending themselves from 1300 years of Muslim invasion and conquest and treatment of Jews as if they were not humans, or not human enough.

Enjoy the Muslims calling Jews Pigs and Apes, and wishing to kill all Jews anywhere they are hiding.

If you do not know what is written in the Quran, Islam's holy book which tells them how to treat people, then go and read it.

BUT.....do not fail to read the part where it is written in the Quran that Israel (aka Palestine) belongs to the Jewish Nation.


Which part of the Quran Muslims choose to read and believe continues to be the issue.

The land belongs to the Jews

OR

Kill them wherever they can be found.


(Remind me.....who are the terrorists? Who had been terrorizing non Muslims on their very ancient lands for 1300 years before the Ottoman Muslim Empire lost a huge chunk of all it had. And that after the Arab invaders, and the Christian invaders had already come along and treated non Muslims or non Christians in such a humane manner. )

Don't you agree that Islam does teach to treat non Muslims in such a way until they are forced to convert to Islam, which is the final ambition?

Haven't Christians treated non Christians the same way?
So many pogroms, the Inquisition which is still going on, the Holocaust.

You wish to see the Jews as being terrorists that is your choice.

Jews and non Jews can see from history, that all Israel is doing is defending itself from people who have it IN WRITING that they wish to destroy Israel and kill all the Jews.

Just as Christians and Muslims were doing, especially doing WWII.

You may be a member of the Free Palestine At Any Cost, By Any Means, which has been bombing, ramming knifing, BDS ing, etc, etc, etc in the world.

That is your choice.

Israel chooses to strive, as it has done from the very beginning, at great cost, which would have been much greater for all Jews if the Jews had not worked, as approved by International Law, to develop and rebuild their own country.


REBUILD, something which once was and would have to be reborn at one point or another.
Considering the monstrous choices some Europeans were making to continue with treating Jews as non humans, only one choice was finally arrived to.

Time to rebuild the Jewish Nation ON, and only ON, its ancient homeland


You have learned anything different than that......that is your poor education, and no-one else's.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For Israelis, the declaration was just one step in a series of significant events that had started decades before Lord Balfour and continued after him, all contributing to the Jewish people’s return to the Land of Israel. The first wave of immigrants started in 1882, 35 years before Balfour’s declaration and long before the First Zionist Congress in 1897.

For the PA, the Balfour Declaration is a necessary component of the Palestinian narrative. The two foundations of Palestinian ideology, both fictitious, are that a Palestinian nation existed for thousands of years and that there never had been a Jewish presence in the Land of Israel.

But this left one problem: The PA needed to explain to its people why millions of Jews had immigrated from Europe and all over the world, if they had no connection to the land. The PA’s answer is colonialism and Balfour is the “proof.”

According to the PA’s adjusted narrative, Balfour and Britain’s support were not one step in the growing Zionist movement, but were the beginning of all Jewish history in the land. The PA says the Jews were chosen by Britain only because the Jews were so “evil” that Europe was looking for a way to be rid of them.

(full article online)

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Had-th...on-the-PA-would-not-have-been-invented-513217

 

[Sixties Fan]

100 years of Arab-Israeli history: Renowned British doctor pens surprising book on conflict

 

[Sixties Fan]

Simon Schama at Balfour lecture: ‘The life of Israel is Hitler’s failure’

 

[Sixties Fan]

Ronnie Fraser tells the little-known story of the British Labour Party’s support for Zionism. Three months before the Balfour Declaration, its War Aims Memorandum made clear that ‘The British Labour Movement expresses the opinion that Palestine should be set free from the harsh and oppressive government of the Turk, in order that the country may form a Free State, under international guarantee, to which such of the Jewish People as desired to do so may return, and may work out their salvation’.

(full article online)

Balfour 100 | Before Balfour: The Labour Party’s War Aims memorandum

 

[Sixties Fan]

Netanyahu: I Won't Forget How UK Backtracked On Balfour Declaration

 

[Sixties Fan]

30 years after Thatcher’s rebuff, Theresa May celebrates Balfour with Israel

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course none of all this changes the fact that Britain promised to give away that which was not theirs.

 

[Shusha]

Of course none of all this changes the fact that Britain promised to give away that which was not theirs.

No, they didn't. They promised to support the EXISTING rights of the Jewish people to a national homeland in, you know, their homeland.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Of course none of all this changes the fact that Britain promised to give away that which was not theirs.

It was the Turks'. For 500 years. It was "others" before the Turks for a period of time.

But it was always the Jewish ancient homeland as written in many Christian and Islamic books, including the Quran.
With the Jews being present on it for 3800 years.

It was not the Arabs' land.
It was not the Turks' land.
It was not the British Land.
It was not the Hashemite's land.


It was and continues to be the Jewish Nation's land.

Am Israel Chai !

 

[thetor]

30 years after Thatcher’s rebuff, Theresa May celebrates Balfour with Israel

Well the hapless Teresa is a Zionist Jew

 

[thetor]

Of course none of all this changes the fact that Britain promised to give away that which was not theirs.

No, they didn't. They promised to support the EXISTING rights of the Jewish people to a national homeland in, you know, their homeland.

and later when you got prior to and after nationhood,Israel was supposed to look after the Palestinians as part of their charter...What a load of absolute BULLSHIT that proved to be

 

[thetor]

Of course none of all this changes the fact that Britain promised to give away that which was not theirs.

No, they didn't. They promised to support the EXISTING rights of the Jewish people to a national homeland in, you know, their homeland.

and Palestinian,Muslim,christian etc.,rights