What about Gaza?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Thanks for trying to answer my questions. The rest of the class is sent back to kindergarten.

Israel's Cuban Missile Crisis

Gaza is a forward base of Egypt's Moslem Brotherhood, which started this jihad soon after the Turks finally lost the last one.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Arabs don't hate Israel as much as they don't want anything to do with the human lice known as Hamas. Hamas is supported by Iran because they are the Arab's mortal enemies.

Up Shiites' Creek

Hamas is Sunni. It would be exterminated by Hezbollah if the extermination of Jews didn't come first for both sects.

 

[The Duke]

Why are there no horses in Gaza?

 

[The Duke]

Since no one seems capable of rationally discussing Palestine, let's narrow the focus to Gaza. Does anyone think that it doesn't exist, either? Here are my questions for discussion:

1. What is the legal status of Gaza? Is it under the jurisdiction of another country (e.g., Egypt) or is it an independent territory?

2. Is Hamas its democratically elected ruling political party?

3. Has Hamas declared war against Israel, or vice versa?

4. Can Gaza be effectively governed without Hamas? Is the PLO a possible alternative?

It seems to me that the October 7th attack by Hamas bears some similarity to the December 7th attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese government. In both situations, a militaristic political faction had taken control and orchestrated a surprise attack on its enemies. Further, both of these factions had gained widespread public support through propaganda and intimidation. Thus, the attacked countries faced the problem of having to defeat and pacify an entire population.

In the first case, the U.S. had to utterly defeat Japan and occupy it in order to change its warlike inclinations. In the second case, Israel has retaliated against Hamas, but has not occupied Gaza. Without such occupation, is there any way to pacify its population? Is any country willing an able to do this?

I applaud President Trump's outside-the-box thinking to relocate these people, but I think it is more of a negotiating tactic than a practical solution. Even so, it would still require the occupation of Gaza by outside forces. Do you think some combination of international forces is a real possibility? If not, will Gaza just remain the world's largest prison camp?

Send equal amounts of Gazans to ( Cyprus ) ( Lebanon ) ( Egypt ) ( Jordan ) …

Hell to the fuck naw! They're a parasite that kills the host. No.

 

[Failzero]

Egypt and Jordan don't want them. Lebanon is a multireligious country. Did you know there are Greeks on Cyprus?

The bulk of PLO Fighters who surrendered to Israel in a huge previous fight were sent to Cyprus ( The Islamic side of the island )

 

[The Duke]

Is it that the Arabs don't want them, or is it the Arabs want them to stay in Gaza to keep the conflict with Israel going without having to enter the conflict themselves?

The former. Palestinians have already blown up any bridges they might would have.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The former. Palestinians have already blown up any bridges they might would have.

That may be, but don't you think the Arabs would like to see the conflict continue but don't want to take the risk of participating, themselves? After all, the few Jews who still live in Saudi Arabia are legally second class citizens.

 

[The Duke]

That may be, but don't you think the Arabs would like to see the conflict continue but don't want to take the risk of participating, themselves? After all, the few Jews who still live in Saudi Arabia are legally second class citizens.

Not really.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The bulk of PLO Fighters who surrendered to Israel in a huge previous fight were sent to Cyprus ( The Islamic side of the island )

The PLO is not Hamas. They do not work well together. Are you sure of your info? Got a link to that?

 

[Failzero]

The PLO is not Hamas. They do not work well together. Are you sure of your info? Got a link to that?

This happened when Arafat was still alive & heathy ( back when you were young & unseasoned in the Navy ) Google pictures of the Defeated PLO Fighters on Trucks leaving to be shipped to Cyprus

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This happened when Arafat was still alive & heathy ( back when you were young & unseasoned in the Navy ) Google pictures of the Defeated PLO Fighters on Trucks leaving to be shipped to Cyprus

The PLO has absolutely zero to do with Gaza. Catch a freaking clue!

BTW, I patrolled off Lebanon back in the day, providing missile coverage for our Marine's amphibs. Unseasoned? Right!

Arafat has been dead 20 years! Get with the current day. Gaza was under Israeli occupation when he died.

 

[jwoodie]

So should Gaza be treated as an independent (albeit terrorist) state? Isn't that how Germany and Japan were treated in WW2? Should the Allies have just left them to forage in the ruins of their own cities? Wouldn't that have led to even greater hostility and militarism (as it did in Germany after WW1)?

It seems that Gaza needs to be occupied and pacified before it can join the ranks of civilized states. Does anyone have the will and capability to do this?