Zone1 The average life expectancy of an Irish immigrant worker after arriving in America was just 14 years

[Weatherman2020]

Bad things happening to people is rarely about skin color.
For example:
In the 1850’s a railroad tunnel was being dug thru the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. During construction there was a railroad accident that killed two slaves.

Due to the value of slaves, all slaves were removed from the project and were replaced with Irish immigrants.


“In the current year, when the 1619 Project is considered history, Django Unchained is treated like a documentary, and Gone With the Wind has been thrown into the burn pile, most Americans have a very distorted understanding of how the institution of slavery operated on a day-to-day basis. Pop culture portrayals (the ones that have not been banned) would have us believe that sadistic Southern plantation owners routinely starved, beat and killed their slaves for the sheer thrill of it. When we meet Leonardo di Caprio’s planter character in Django Unchained, he is amusing himself by forcing two slaves to fight a gladiator death match. Well, as with all historical events that are integrated into a founding mythology – for example, the American Revolution, slavery & the Civil War, and World War 2 – the truth is a bit more complicated than the legend.”

You'll Own Nothing... (Audio Version)

Slavery, company towns, and the World Economic Forum

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[Mashmont]

Bad things happening to people is rarely about skin color.
For example:
In the 1850’s a railroad tunnel was being dug thru the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. During construction there was a railroad accident that killed two slaves.

Due to the value of slaves, all slaves were removed from the project and were replaced with Irish immigrants.


“In the current year, when the 1619 Project is considered history, Django Unchained is treated like a documentary, and Gone With the Wind has been thrown into the burn pile, most Americans have a very distorted understanding of how the institution of slavery operated on a day-to-day basis. Pop culture portrayals (the ones that have not been banned) would have us believe that sadistic Southern plantation owners routinely starved, beat and killed their slaves for the sheer thrill of it. When we meet Leonardo di Caprio’s planter character in Django Unchained, he is amusing himself by forcing two slaves to fight a gladiator death match. Well, as with all historical events that are integrated into a founding mythology – for example, the American Revolution, slavery & the Civil War, and World War 2 – the truth is a bit more complicated than the legend.”

You'll Own Nothing... (Audio Version)

Slavery, company towns, and the World Economic Forum

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Really? Where are my reparations?!

 

[AMart]

That occurred all the down and over to New Orleans. If a slave dies the owner has to be compensated. With the Irish there is always another to take the place of the dead man.

 

[Lisa558]

Bad things happening to people is rarely about skin color.
For example:
In the 1850’s a railroad tunnel was being dug thru the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. During construction there was a railroad accident that killed two slaves.

Due to the value of slaves, all slaves were removed from the project and were replaced with Irish immigrants.


“In the current year, when the 1619 Project is considered history, Django Unchained is treated like a documentary, and Gone With the Wind has been thrown into the burn pile, most Americans have a very distorted understanding of how the institution of slavery operated on a day-to-day basis. Pop culture portrayals (the ones that have not been banned) would have us believe that sadistic Southern plantation owners routinely starved, beat and killed their slaves for the sheer thrill of it. When we meet Leonardo di Caprio’s planter character in Django Unchained, he is amusing himself by forcing two slaves to fight a gladiator death match. Well, as with all historical events that are integrated into a founding mythology – for example, the American Revolution, slavery & the Civil War, and World War 2 – the truth is a bit more complicated than the legend.”

You'll Own Nothing... (Audio Version)

Slavery, company towns, and the World Economic Forum

martyrmade.substack.com

Wow. I never knew about that specific case with the railroad and the Irish immigrants. There are obviously many instances of bigotry, against many minorities, in American history.

Another little-known example is that Grant issued an edit expelling all Jews from their homes, with 24 hours’ notice, in three of the states under his control (I think MI, KY, and TN). Fortunately, Lincoln stepped in and voided the order.

If past bigotry against minorities continues to be taught in schools, as it should, it should be broadened beyond just slavery and Jim Crow - which was what we were taught - and include other examples of prejudice, as well.

 

[rightwinger]

That occurred all the down and over to New Orleans. If a slave dies the owner has to be compensated. With the Irish there is always another to take the place of the dead man.

Reminds me of a story about Coal Mining

The owners of the mine was more concerned about the safety of the Mules than safety of the miners

If a mule got killed, he had to buy a new mule
If a miner got killed, he just hired a new one

 

[Weatherman2020]

That occurred all the down and over to New Orleans. If a slave dies the owner has to be compensated. With the Irish there is always another to take the place of the dead man.

Slaves were worth several years of the average salary. It’s a lot more cost effective to find desperate people to do the job.

 

[AMart]

Reminds me of a story about Coal Mining

The owners of the mine was more concerned about the safety of the Mules than safety of the miners

If a mule got killed, he had to buy a new mule
If a miner got killed, he just hired a new one

That's one job I would have never wanted to do.

 

[Flash]

As disgusting as it is portrayed in modern times slavery helped to make this country a global economic power.

The exports of tobacco and cotton to Europe and the rest of the world brought in a lot of much needed cash to a new nation.

Slavery is just a part of hour history, like it is part of the history of most of the rest of the world. Nothing to be ashamed of should not be distorted.

Liberals love to distort the history in order to foster a victim class as a core voting group.

 

[IM2]

Bad things happening to people is rarely about skin color.
For example:
In the 1850’s a railroad tunnel was being dug thru the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. During construction there was a railroad accident that killed two slaves.

Due to the value of slaves, all slaves were removed from the project and were replaced with Irish immigrants.


“In the current year, when the 1619 Project is considered history, Django Unchained is treated like a documentary, and Gone With the Wind has been thrown into the burn pile, most Americans have a very distorted understanding of how the institution of slavery operated on a day-to-day basis. Pop culture portrayals (the ones that have not been banned) would have us believe that sadistic Southern plantation owners routinely starved, beat and killed their slaves for the sheer thrill of it. When we meet Leonardo di Caprio’s planter character in Django Unchained, he is amusing himself by forcing two slaves to fight a gladiator death match. Well, as with all historical events that are integrated into a founding mythology – for example, the American Revolution, slavery & the Civil War, and World War 2 – the truth is a bit more complicated than the legend.”

You'll Own Nothing... (Audio Version)

Slavery, company towns, and the World Economic Forum

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BS.

Irish led riots into black communities.

 

[IM2]

“The tale of the Irish slaves is rooted in a false conflation of indentured servitude and chattel slavery. These are not the same. Indentured servitude was a form of bonded labour, whereby a migrant agreed to work for a set period of time (between two and seven years) and in return the cost of the voyage across the Atlantic was covered. Indentured servitude was a colonial innovation that enabled many to emigrate to the New World while providing a cheap and white labour force for planters and merchants to exploit. Those who completed their term of service were awarded ‘freedom dues’ and were free. The vast majority of labourers who agreed to this system did so voluntarily, but there were many who were forcibly transplanted from the British Isles to the colonies and sold into indentured service against their will. While these forced deportees would have included political prisoners and serious felons, it is believed that the majority came from the poor and vulnerable. This forced labour was in essence an extension of the English Poor Laws, e.g. in 1697. John Locke recommended the whipping of those who ‘refused to work’ and the herding of beggars into workhouses. Indeed this criminalisation of the poor continues into the 21st century. In any case, all bar the serious felons were freed once the term of their contract expired.”
- Liam Hogan

 

[AZrailwhale]

BS.

Irish led riots into black communities.

Sure they did. In those days everyone was racist. Even John Brown was a racist.

 

[IM2]

The Irish who chose to leave Ireland and come to America were not enslaved, nor did they face Apartheid. But some owned slaves and practiced apartheid. Everybody has not had it as bad as others and many white ethnic groups chose to unite using skin color to discriminate against others and benefit. So excuse me for bringing up these facts.

 

[IM2]

Wow. I never knew about that specific case with the railroad and the Irish immigrants. There are obviously many instances of bigotry, against many minorities, in American history.

Another little-known example is that Grant issued an edit expelling all Jews from their homes, with 24 hours’ notice, in three of the states under his control (I think MI, KY, and TN). Fortunately, Lincoln stepped in and voided the order.

If past bigotry against minorities continues to be taught in schools, as it should, it should be broadened beyond just slavery and Jim Crow - which was what we were taught - and include other examples of prejudice, as well.

It always has. The truth is that whites used their skin color to unify across the lines of ethnicity and religion. No matter how much you lie, white Jews never faced what groups of color have.,

 

[IM2]

In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish. A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: “My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman.” Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: “Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, ‘You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.’ The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded.”

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed “race,” Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another “race,” Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White, How the Irish Became White

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Bad things happening to people is rarely about skin color.
For example:
In the 1850’s a railroad tunnel was being dug thru the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia. During construction there was a railroad accident that killed two slaves.

Due to the value of slaves, all slaves were removed from the project and were replaced with Irish immigrants.


“In the current year, when the 1619 Project is considered history, Django Unchained is treated like a documentary, and Gone With the Wind has been thrown into the burn pile, most Americans have a very distorted understanding of how the institution of slavery operated on a day-to-day basis. Pop culture portrayals (the ones that have not been banned) would have us believe that sadistic Southern plantation owners routinely starved, beat and killed their slaves for the sheer thrill of it. When we meet Leonardo di Caprio’s planter character in Django Unchained, he is amusing himself by forcing two slaves to fight a gladiator death match. Well, as with all historical events that are integrated into a founding mythology – for example, the American Revolution, slavery & the Civil War, and World War 2 – the truth is a bit more complicated than the legend.”

You'll Own Nothing... (Audio Version)

Slavery, company towns, and the World Economic Forum

martyrmade.substack.com

Slavery Was Punishment. Savages Who Behaved Like Wild Animals Needed to Be Tamed.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Really? Where are my reparations?!

The Only Reparations That Will Repair Anything

We'll get them when we confiscate the loot of the Deep State.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Slaves were worth several years of the average salary. It’s a lot more cost effective to find desperate people to do the job.

If They Claim They Own a Man's Work, They Own That Man

Back then, the Gilded Age plute Scrooges and their stooges didn't even have to outsource, as they do today. Another reason for outsourcing is that the HeirHead head officers and their corporate brown-noses are too incompetent to create enough revenue to pay decent wages.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No matter how much you lie, white Jews never faced what groups of color have.,

Oy Vey, OJ

So the Holocaust was nothing compared to an Afram almost getting convicted for murdering his wife?

 

[Lisa558]

It always has. The truth is that whites used their skin color to unify across the lines of ethnicity and religion. No matter how much you lie, white Jews never faced what groups of color have.,

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they’re a liar, so stop calling me that.

White Jews have faced hell on Earth.

 

[irosie91]

for LIsa and others-----the ROLES OF CULTURAL NORMS and ACTUAL INHERITED PHYSIOLOGY
in SUCCESS IN AMERICA-----is a real issue.
I have been excluded from basket ball success because
of RACISM against my genes------short and left-handed