The American Culture War was won by the Left

[Meriweather]

Abortion is about "culture?"

When one thinks of it in terms of life and death, absolutely it is culture. Once culture values all life.

 

[AFrench2]

Abortion is about "culture?"
You sick fuck

Culture is about ideas. Would you disagree?

And the idea that abortion is okay, and a woman's right, has won. Women are now a part of our culture and history like never before (first VP, etc)

 

[Indeependent]

- Gay Marriage is legal
- Interracial marriage is accepted
- Marijuana is legal in more than 25 states
- Rappers and musicians have their pants down in music videos
- Abortion still legal

Remember the Roman Empire?
Where do you think this is all going to lead?

 

[jbrownson0831]

- Gay Marriage is legal
- Interracial marriage is accepted
- Marijuana is legal in more than 25 states
- Rappers and musicians have their pants down in music videos
- Abortion still legal

Goofy liberal kids are morons.....

 

[9thIDdoc]

- Gay Marriage is legal
- Interracial marriage is accepted
- Marijuana is legal in more than 25 states
- Rappers and musicians have their pants down in music videos
- Abortion still legal

There is no end so there is no "won" or "lost". The pendulum swings one way then swings another. Only thing you can count on is change.

 

[Oldestyle]

- Gay Marriage is legal
- Interracial marriage is accepted
- Marijuana is legal in more than 25 states
- Rappers and musicians have their pants down in music videos
- Abortion still legal

That's the sum total of the Left's accomplishments in the "Culture War"? Which one of those things is making this a better country to live in for the average American?

 

[TNHarley]

Abortion is about "culture?"
You sick fuck

Culture is about ideas. Would you disagree?

And the idea that abortion is okay, and a woman's right, has won. Women are now a part of our culture and history like never before (first VP, etc)

Its the fact that you call abortion part of our culture. Why would anyone even want that to be part of their "culture"
"hey man, you hear about those americans? Women get to destroy their future offspring."
"wow man, really? What a great country!"
I am pro choice, but the way you leftist freaks salivate about it is fucking disgusting. Its mental illness.

 

[TNHarley]

So, the OP clearly has down syndrome(avatar). I guess we can add psychopathy to it.

 

[Meriweather]

And the idea that abortion is okay, and a woman's right,

Rather, abortion has a higher priority than life (all of society, not just women).

 

[JoeB131]

Underlining again how low in importance this manufactured concern with such an infinitesimal minority rates.

Quite right. It's not a big deal. It's very unlikely most HS athletes will ever encounter a trans-girl on a track meet, but the way you guys are carrying on, you'd think there were a whole army of them ready to take their trophies.

But where would the right be without manufactured outrage?

 

[JoeB131]

Rather, abortion has a higher priority than life (all of society, not just women).

Or we are just pragmatic about not wanting to give a glob of cells more rights than the woman it is inside.

If you want to see a society that does exactly what you guys want, you only need to look at the Philippines. You know, a country where they take the Pope seriously.

Abortion is illegal in all circumstances except a threat to the life of the woman. But the laws are largely unenforced, and it is estimated that 500K to 800K abortions happen a year- a much higher per-capita rate than in the United States. The Philippines also have millions of abandoned children eeking out livings in slums and garbage dumps. If you think life is cheap in a country that allows abortion, look at how cheap it is in a country that tries to outlaw it.

 

[JoeB131]

Remember the Roman Empire?
Where do you think this is all going to lead?

Um, actually, the Roman Empire went into more rapid decline AFTER they accepted Christianity as a State Religion... So your argument that Romans were all out having Orgies and lost their empire is a little silly.

In fact, the Romans themselves had a pretty strong moral code. Orgies were something that were largely made up by later writers, kind of like throwing Christians to Lions. that never happened, either.

The Roman Empire had an economic model based on conquering new territories. Once they ran out of places to conquer, they fell.

 

[Indeependent]

Remember the Roman Empire?
Where do you think this is all going to lead?

Um, actually, the Roman Empire went into more rapid decline AFTER they accepted Christianity as a State Religion... So your argument that Romans were all out having Orgies and lost their empire is a little silly.

In fact, the Romans themselves had a pretty strong moral code. Orgies were something that were largely made up by later writers, kind of like throwing Christians to Lions. that never happened, either.

The Roman Empire had an economic model based on conquering new territories. Once they ran out of places to conquer, they fell.

We both know the goals of the Church weren’t all that different from the sexual perversities of the polytheists.

 

[JoeB131]

We both know the goals of the Church weren’t all that different from the sexual perversities of the polytheists.

Um. No.

You have it mixed up.

There's a reason why Constantine picked Christianity as the state religion of Rome. He wanted a single idea that united the Empire. It's also why he took a keen interest in guiding Church Dogma, such as the Council of Nicea to standardize Orthodox Faith.

 

[Indeependent]

We both know the goals of the Church weren’t all that different from the sexual perversities of the polytheists.

Um. No.

You have it mixed up.

There's a reason why Constantine picked Christianity as the state religion of Rome. He wanted a single idea that united the Empire. It's also why he took a keen interest in guiding Church Dogma, such as the Council of Nicea to standardize Orthodox Faith.

Christianity also had a set of books.
Please tell me that Constantine was a fine upstanding leader who didn't value Ignorance among the masses, Gold, murder and pussy.

 

[JoeB131]

Christianity also had a set of books.
Please tell me that Constantine was a fine upstanding leader who didn't value Ignorance among the masses, Gold, murder and pussy.

Christianity had lots of books... and that was part of the problem that Constantine had to solve. Which books to you keep to maintain a somewhat consistent view of Christianity. It's why they kept the synaptic Gospels but got rid of the Gnostic ones.

Constantine was an interesting character when considered in the CONTEXT of Roman History. Now, being a big fan of Roman History, Constantine came in on the tale end of the "Crisis of the Third Century". In that time, the Roman Empire was beset by almost constant civil war as anyone with an army could declare himself emperor and hijack the Empire or a large chunk of it. In a 50 year period, 26 men declared themselves as "Emperor". Most of them died violent deaths. It included the first Emperor to die in combat (Decius) and the first to be captured by a foreign enemy (Valerian).

NO, he wasn't a "nice guy", but he was a leader Rome needed at that period in its history, to the point where he re-established political stability. Part of that was establishing a "State religion". Yes, you couldn't get Latins, Gauls, Greeks and Egyptians to all identify with a Roman nationality, but you could unite them under a single God, which is what he tried to do.

 

[Indeependent]

Christianity also had a set of books.
Please tell me that Constantine was a fine upstanding leader who didn't value Ignorance among the masses, Gold, murder and pussy.

Christianity had lots of books... and that was part of the problem that Constantine had to solve. Which books to you keep to maintain a somewhat consistent view of Christianity. It's why they kept the synaptic Gospels but got rid of the Gnostic ones.

Constantine was an interesting character when considered in the CONTEXT of Roman History. Now, being a big fan of Roman History, Constantine came in on the tale end of the "Crisis of the Third Century". In that time, the Roman Empire was beset by almost constant civil war as anyone with an army could declare himself emperor and hijack the Empire or a large chunk of it. In a 50 year period, 26 men declared themselves as "Emperor". Most of them died violent deaths. It included the first Emperor to die in combat (Decius) and the first to be captured by a foreign enemy (Valerian).

NO, he wasn't a "nice guy", but he was a leader Rome needed at that period in its history, to the point where he re-established political stability. Part of that was establishing a "State religion". Yes, you couldn't get Latins, Gauls, Greeks and Egyptians to all identify with a Roman nationality, but you could unite them under a single God, which is what he tried to do.

Rome respected a ruthless leader.
The books, by the way, are not even in chronological order because The Book of James slammed Paul and the Jesus nonsense, so he had that put at the end.

 

[BreezeWood]

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the culture war's conclusion would be to bring to justice the crucifiers ...
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who are alive and well - and festering.

 

[BreezeWood]

Christianity also had a set of books.
Please tell me that Constantine was a fine upstanding leader who didn't value Ignorance among the masses, Gold, murder and pussy.

Christianity had lots of books... and that was part of the problem that Constantine had to solve. Which books to you keep to maintain a somewhat consistent view of Christianity. It's why they kept the synaptic Gospels but got rid of the Gnostic ones.

Constantine was an interesting character when considered in the CONTEXT of Roman History. Now, being a big fan of Roman History, Constantine came in on the tale end of the "Crisis of the Third Century". In that time, the Roman Empire was beset by almost constant civil war as anyone with an army could declare himself emperor and hijack the Empire or a large chunk of it. In a 50 year period, 26 men declared themselves as "Emperor". Most of them died violent deaths. It included the first Emperor to die in combat (Decius) and the first to be captured by a foreign enemy (Valerian).

NO, he wasn't a "nice guy", but he was a leader Rome needed at that period in its history, to the point where he re-established political stability. Part of that was establishing a "State religion". Yes, you couldn't get Latins, Gauls, Greeks and Egyptians to all identify with a Roman nationality, but you could unite them under a single God, which is what he tried to do.

Rome respected a ruthless leader.
The books, by the way, are not even in chronological order because The Book of James slammed Paul and the Jesus nonsense, so he had that put at the end.

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Rome respected a ruthless leader.

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no, that's what they would like you to believe.

 

[Indeependent]

Christianity also had a set of books.
Please tell me that Constantine was a fine upstanding leader who didn't value Ignorance among the masses, Gold, murder and pussy.

Christianity had lots of books... and that was part of the problem that Constantine had to solve. Which books to you keep to maintain a somewhat consistent view of Christianity. It's why they kept the synaptic Gospels but got rid of the Gnostic ones.

Constantine was an interesting character when considered in the CONTEXT of Roman History. Now, being a big fan of Roman History, Constantine came in on the tale end of the "Crisis of the Third Century". In that time, the Roman Empire was beset by almost constant civil war as anyone with an army could declare himself emperor and hijack the Empire or a large chunk of it. In a 50 year period, 26 men declared themselves as "Emperor". Most of them died violent deaths. It included the first Emperor to die in combat (Decius) and the first to be captured by a foreign enemy (Valerian).

NO, he wasn't a "nice guy", but he was a leader Rome needed at that period in its history, to the point where he re-established political stability. Part of that was establishing a "State religion". Yes, you couldn't get Latins, Gauls, Greeks and Egyptians to all identify with a Roman nationality, but you could unite them under a single God, which is what he tried to do.

Rome respected a ruthless leader.
The books, by the way, are not even in chronological order because The Book of James slammed Paul and the Jesus nonsense, so he had that put at the end.

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Rome respected a ruthless leader.

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no, that's what they would like you to believe.

You know why he was called Constantine, The Great?
If you didn't call him that, you didn't live.