The 2020 Election: An Objective Look. Was it Rigged or was it Fair?

[leftwinger]

Drop boxes have to be inside GOVT buildings and monitored. One hand one ballot. Maybe Signature verified before drop in? On site. Don''t try to go around dumping more in another building.

 

[leftwinger]

OK Skippy

Show ONE fraudulent vote that was identified in Arizona

You claim millions
Show one

That's stupid even for you.

 

[Independent thinker]

Rigged.

The active suppression/lying about the Hunter laptop has been credibly estimated to have given Xiden 15% more of the vote than he would have received, had the criminal acts contained therein become common knowledge.

Nevermind all the obvious jiggery-pokery that occurred with mail-in cheating, stopped counting that resumed after ballot drops in the dead of night, machines connected to the internet, statistically impossible vote spikes, and all that...If that 15% didn't vote for Pedo Peter, none of that would've worked.

Yes, a whole lot of it has to do with how you define rigged or stolen. I totally agree that many coverups helped Biden and the Media being just another arm of the Democrat party is yet another example.

 

[Oddball]

Drop boxes have to be inside GOVT buildings and monitored. One hand one ballot. Maybe Signature verified before drop in? On site. Don''t try to go around dumping more in another building.

No drop boxes at all.

I'll throw a bone and say one week of early voting -paper ballot hand counted of course- and if you can't do that or a legit absentee, then it sucks to be you.

 

[Foxfyre]

Once again creating a major impediment to voting when you can’t identify a single fraudulent vote

Easy to do
Just show where anyone tried to vote and found someone had voted in their name.

You claim it happens all the time

I can identify fraudulent votes. I have WITNESSED fraudulent votes. I just explained in this thread how I could have easily cast three fraudulent votes myself and nobody would have ever been the wiser.

So stow your nonsense please unless you can tell me why all American people should not be able to feel confident that our elections are as honest, fair and accurate as we can reasonably make them.

If that means citizens should help take responsibility so that it can be that way, well I can't see a single downside to that.

In my opinion, any citizen who cannot show proof of citizenship and residency when he/she registers to vote and who is not willing to help keep the vote as honest, fair and accurate as is reasonably possible does not deserve to vote.

And all who object to that simply want their side to be able to cheat. it's as simple as that.

 

[0311]

OK Skippy

Show ONE fraudulent vote that was identified in Arizona

You claim millions
Show one

That will be hard to do, mainly because no such fraudulent ballots exist.

 

[g5000]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?

Your numbers are incorrect.

Voter turnout in 2020 was 158,427,986.

Voter turnout in 2024 was 156,302,318.

About a 2 million difference. Your conspiracy is melting.

Maybe there was a special episode of Love Island on Election Night 2024.

Voter turnout in United States presidential elections - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.

Again, you are WAY off. Where are you getting these bogus numbers?

The difference between votes cast in California in 2020 and 2024 is 1,759,281.

3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?

Since your numbers have been way off so far, please provide a link for the Maricopa numbers.

4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states.

Except there was no massive drop off in votes.

Your entire conspiracy theory is built on a false premise.

So, these are the facts I am aware of.

Your "facts" are wrong. Someone is feeding you bullshit. Who?

 

[Oddball]

Yes, a whole lot of it has to do with how you define rigged or stolen. I totally agree that many coverups helped Biden and the Media being just another arm of the Democrat party is yet another example.

Without the laptop being suppressed, none of it would have mattered...The 15% gained from that made it close enough to be stolen.

 

[Foxfyre]

No drop boxes at all.

I'll throw a bone and say one week of early voting -paper ballot hand counted of course- and if you can't do that or a legit absentee, then it sucks to be you.

Zero need for drop boxes when every citizen has access to the U.S. Post Office.

 

[Oddball]

OK Skippy

Show ONE fraudulent vote that was identified in Arizona

You claim millions
Show one

42,000...But no amount of documentation will ever convince an intellectually bankrupt hack like you.

 

[BluesLegend]

The 2020 Election: An Objective Look. Was it Rigged or was it Fair?​

Let's ask the government's own expert on election fraud who monitors foreign elections for fraud. Government expert what say you?

Government Expert: Of the 7 key indicators of election FRAUD, only 3 of which are sufficient to strongly suggest FRAUD, I found all 7 indicators in the 2020 presidential election.

 

[Oddball]

Zero need for drop boxes when every citizen has access to the U.S. Post Office.

No need when everyone has access to their public polling place or city hall.

 

[BluesLegend]

In one key Dem district in a key swing state election day turnout was reported as very low. The fake news was hyperventilating all day that there were no lines at the polls, nobody was showing up.

THEN the following morning...

Wow election day turnout was an HISTORIC HIGH never before seen.

 

[leftwinger]

On site voting, With valid ID. Check-in take so long nibody can go elsewhere also.

It aint rocket science. Legal humans living in that local make black dots on white paper. Machine count dots. Duh.

I would put President or Congress votes on separate sheet away from local dog catcher. Eaiser for later audits. CA ballot sometimes 17 pages? Very messy. Trump put on folds for more "had entry" later in the back.

Count both on machine and paper ballot in another site. If they don't agree fix it or your State is eliminated from Federal.

The Arabs can do it. Why not here?

 

[Marener]

Zero need for drop boxes when every citizen has access to the U.S. Post Office.

Drop boxes are safer than post offices. Cheaper too.

 

[Independent thinker]

Maybe you can explain how cheating is done on mail in ballots.
Each ballot is traced by barcode to a registered voter. There is no way to introduce fake ballots into the process. If massive mail in ballots are intercepted and filled out, there would be massive cases of people claiming they didn’t receive their ballot or attempts at double voting.
It didn’t happen

In some places, ballots are mailed out to all registered voters, even if they hadn't voted in years. Many registered voters don't vote. Those are legitimate ballots that could theoretically be used for voting by people other than the registered voter. In addition, ballot harvesting is against the law and yet there have been many cases of multiple ballots coming in by individuals. Democrats can go to assisted living facilities (for one example) and "help" seniors fill out their ballots and then return dozens or more of them in an unlawful way, AKA ballot harvesting.

 

[Independent thinker]

Those ballots still must have a signature. Faking a signature will get you serious jail time.
It is easy to identify because people will complain they didn’t get a ballot and will vote in person. If you show up to vote in person and it is found someone had voted in your name, a criminal investigation ensues.

Didn’t happen…..there was no fraud

It's very easy to do and you know it.

 

[Foxfyre]

On site voting, With valid ID. Check-in take so long nibody can go elsewhere also.

It aint rocket science. Legal humans living in that local make black dots on white paper. Machine count dots. Duh.

I would put President or Comgress votes on separate sheet away from local dog catcher. Eaiser for later audits.

Count both on machine and paper ballot in another site. If they don't agree fix it or your State is eliminated from Federal.

The Arabs can do it. Why not here?

That is another factor I have offered as a good reform. In national elections put the Presidential, congressional, governor, mayor choices on one ballot and all the lesser offices on another. Then hand count and report the presidential ballot first which should go pretty quickly and, if the ballots are counted where they are cast, that should go pretty quickly and folks will know the outcome probably before they go to bed that night.

 

[BluesLegend]

Like districts pretty much vote the same across the country, this has been true for decades.

Then in 2020 voting in certain Dem districts looked nothing like all the other similar districts, turning decades long analytics on it's head.

Those anomaly districts, you guessed ALL were in key Dem swing state districts Dems would need to steal the election.

 

[leftwinger]

Zero need for drop boxes when every citizen has access to the U.S. Post Office.

Can't trust that as then they can drop off hundreds in secret drive up. No camera. USPS in CA also known to toss some Zip codes ballots.

They Collect all returned mail ballots (Vacant lots, bad zip codes, Shell stations etc.) w/o tracking, piled up on pallets. This was reported key in 2020 to flood out ballots to bad addeesses. They get used by mules later. Some deny the whistleblower statements. Not worth the cgotcha.

AZ reportedly sent out 32K with bad zip code early...whoops. fixed it resent. Where is the audit if the first 32K? Uh-huh, gotcha. Anything goes. No penalty for GOVT workers who are deep State. Just dont respond, it goes away.