Thank you, Trump, for great economy

[citygator]

Yeah, the Dems are really raising property taxes bigtime. People who live in blue areas have it tough, as the leftists go after property owners to fund all their freebies.

The average property tax rose 2.7% in 2024. Insurance went up 19%.

Why are you right wingers unable to function effectively? You have DDS - Democrat Derangement Syndrome. Everything is a dems fault. Insurance rates are sky high.. not local taxes by democrats. Get a life.

 

[Marener]

It’s hilarious that this train wreck of a thread is still chugging along.

 

[Lisa558]

The average property tax rose 2.7% in 2024. Insurance went up 19%.

Why are you right wingers unable to function effectively? You have DDS - Democrat Derangement Syndrome. Everything is a dems fault. Insurance rates are sky high.. not local taxes by democrats. Get a life.

I’m dealing with another idiot leftist on another thread, and I only have patience for so many of you people. You’re destroying our country and letting it be overtaken by anti-Americans.

And you’re one to talk: everything is Trump’s fault to you.

 

[Lisa558]

It’s hilarious that this train wreck of a thread is still chugging along.

Yes, considering how you leftists are working hard to scare everyone.

 

[Marener]

Yes, considering how you leftists are working hard to scare everyone.

Your position is that the people should be happy that Trump made things worse, but only by a little!

 

[Lisa558]

Your position is that the people should be happy that Trump made things worse, but only by a little!

Stock market is way up…..half the people are better off.

 

[Dragonlady]

PBS and chicago sun times?

Where do you get YOUR information? PMSDNCNOW? LOL

News sources that can pass a fact check test.

 

[Marener]

Stock market is way up…..half the people are better off.

Stock market was way up in 2024, but we were told that the economy was absolutely abysmal.

It was the main focus of the Trump campaign and represented the biggest issue for voters.

If Dems pointed to the stock market gains in 2024, they were laughed at and ridiculed by MAGA.

Now? It’s all that matters apparently.

 

[citygator]

I’m dealing with another idiot leftist on another thread, and I only have patience for so many of you people. You’re destroying our country and letting it be overtaken by anti-Americans.

And you’re one to talk: everything is Trump’s fault to you.

Not EVERYTHING but definitely the:

• Tariff Disaster
• The Iran War Disaster
• The ICE operations Disaster
• The Terrible Budget Deficit submitted
• The Epstein File Disaster
• The Gas Price Disaster
• The Ballroom which left a Disaster area on the White House premises
• The staffing Disaster: Noem, Bondi, Chavez.. Likely Patel and Hegseth
• The military leadership turnover disaster
• Maybe not all his fault but these arent doing well
  • Job growth is anemic
  • GDP is barely 2%
  • Unemployment rising
  • Inflation rising
  • Mortgage rates still not lowered - were high under Biden too
  • Ukraine still going - not his war but it was promised by him to end swiftly
  • Energy prices are +13% - lots of reasons but he set expectations that they would drop
  • Farm foreclosures are on the rise - still not to pre-covid highs but much higher than last 4 years
  • Fertilizer is scarce - that is his fault

Good news is:

• Housing prices are holding their equity
• Stock market is growing despite last few months of decreases- maybe too weighted to AI but doing ok.
• Company profits continue to be record breaking
• Spending has slowed but not stopped

Most of the good news is the economic resilience of the US and not Trump actions frankly... maybe tax cuts helped the company profits.

 

[Winco]

Stock market is way up…..half the people are better off.

The Stock Market (DOW) ,in this example, for every POTUS since Reagan
What happened to Bush?.

Dow Jones returns by full POTUS term (since 1980)​

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• 1981: -9.23%
• 1982: +19.60%
• 1983: +20.27%
• 1984: -3.74%

Total (compound): ~+27%

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• 1985: +27.66%
• 1986: +22.58%
• 1987: +2.26%
• 1988: +11.85%

Total: ~+78%

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• 1989: +26.96%
• 1990: -4.34%
• 1991: +20.32%
• 1992: +4.17%

Total: ~+53%

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• 1993: +13.72%
• 1994: +2.14%
• 1995: +33.45%
• 1996: +26.01%

Total: ~+96%

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• 1997: +22.64%
• 1998: +16.10%
• 1999: +25.22%
• 2000: -6.17%

Total: ~+67%

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• 2001: -7.10%
• 2002: -16.76%
• 2003: +25.32%
• 2004: +3.15%

Total: ~+1% (basically flat)

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• 2005: -0.61%
• 2006: +16.29%
• 2007: +6.43%
• 2008: -33.84%

Total: ~-19%

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• 2009: +18.82%
• 2010: +11.02%
• 2011: +5.53%
• 2012: +7.26%

Total: ~+49%

(Note: other sources estimate ~70% depending on start/end methodology )

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• 2013: +26.50%
• 2014: +7.52%
• 2015: -2.23%
• 2016: +13.42%

Total: ~+50%

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• 2017: +25.08%
• 2018: -5.63%
• 2019: +22.34%
• 2020: +7.25%

Total: ~+55%

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• 2021: +18.73%
• 2022: -8.78%
• 2023: +13.70%
• 2024: +12.88%

Total: ~+39%

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Key takeaways (important context)​

• The Dow varies wildly year-to-year (e.g., -33.8% in 2008 vs +26.5% in 2013)
• Presidential attribution is correlation, not causation:
  • Markets are forward-looking
  • Fed policy, global shocks, and business cycles dominate
• Biggest standout:
  • Clinton’s 1st term (~+96%) = strongest since 1980
  • G.W. Bush 2nd (~-19%) = worst (dot-com + financial crisis overlap)