I'm in NO WAY suggesting people should treat this differently than what we're told. It's too early.
For comparison, currently Corona19 has a mortality rate of 4.61% world wide, however, the mortality rate in the USA is 1.63%. So much for our healthcare sucks. I only checked Switzerland, which is a personal PROG-favorite nationalized medicine. They come in a 1.81%. Bet your ass most nationalized healthcare systems are higher than the USA, same with the rate of people affected - but that's another story.
OK two things on this straw-filled premise.
Number one, on the numbers, we have 4,269 cases which had an outcome, either Recovered or Died. Of those, 1731 were deaths. I'm prohibited from posting what that percentage is but I guarantee you it's nowhere near 1.81. Number two, as far as nationalized health systems, check out Germany, the first country to do it, in the 19th century.
Country,
Other | Total
Cases | New
Cases | Total
Deaths | New
Deaths | Total
Recovered | Active
Cases | Serious,
Critical | Tot Cases/
1M pop | Deaths/
1M pop | 1st
case |
|---|
| World | 622,490 | +26,178 | 28,808 | +1,467 | 137,373 | 456,309 | 24,016 | 79.9 | 3.7 | Jan 10 |
| USA | 105,778 | +1,652 | 1,731 | +35 | 2,538 | 101,509 | 2,494 | 320 | 5 | Jan 20 |
| Italy | 86,498 | | 9,134 | | 10,950 | 66,414 | 3,732 | 1,431 | 151 | Jan 29 |
| China | 81,394 | +54 | 3,295 | +3 | 74,971 | 3,128 | 886 | 57 | 2 | Jan 10 |
| Spain | 72,248 | +6,529 | 5,812 | +674 | 12,285 | 54,151 | 4,165 | 1,545 | 124 | Jan 30 |
| Germany | 53,340 | +2,469 | 399 | +48 | 6,658 | 46,283 | 1,581 | 637 | 5 | Jan 26 |
As you can see we're much closer to Italy's model --- not because of who has what health care system while you spin your Ronald Reagan booga-booga record from 1962, but simply because they took a lax attitude when they were first hit by it.
So as far as "tell you what you're missing", there are a couple of Biglys.
Don't know what you're looking at. Here's the current data sorted by most cases per million, up to the USA. I deleted rows for smaller territories. What in this data would tell me "
As you can see we're much closer to Italy's model"?????
If you have Excel I can teach you how to use it
| Territory | …. | Cases | …. | Deaths | …. | Recovered | …. | Number of cases per 1 million population | …. | Mortality Rate | …. | Recovery Rate |
| Switzerland | …. | 13,377 | …. | 242 | …. | 1,530 | …. | 1,546 | …. | 1.81% | …. | 11.44% |
| Spain | …. | 72,248 | …. | 5,812 | …. | 12,285 | …. | 1,545 | …. | 8.04% | …. | 17.00% |
| Italy | …. | 86,498 | …. | 9,134 | …. | 10,950 | …. | 1,431 | …. | 10.56% | …. | 12.66% |
| Austria | …. | 8,030 | …. | 68 | …. | 225 | …. | 892 | …. | 0.85% | …. | 2.80% |
| Belgium | …. | 9,134 | …. | 353 | …. | 1,063 | …. | 788 | …. | 3.86% | …. | 11.64% |
| Norway | …. | 3,973 | …. | 20 | …. | 7 | …. | 733 | …. | 0.50% | …. | 0.18% |
| Germany | …. | 53,340 | …. | 399 | …. | 6,658 | …. | 637 | …. | 0.75% | …. | 12.48% |
| Netherlands | …. | 9,762 | …. | 639 | …. | 3 | …. | 570 | …. | 6.55% | …. | 0.03% |
| Portugal | …. | 5,170 | …. | 100 | …. | 43 | …. | 507 | …. | 1.93% | …. | 0.83% |
| France | …. | 32,964 | …. | 1,995 | …. | 5,700 | …. | 505 | …. | 6.05% | …. | 17.29% |
| Estonia | …. | 645 | …. | 1 | …. | 20 | …. | 486 | …. | 0.16% | …. | 3.10% |
| Ireland | …. | 2,121 | …. | 22 | …. | 5 | …. | 430 | …. | 1.04% | …. | 0.24% |
| Iran | …. | 35,408 | …. | 2,517 | …. | 11,679 | …. | 422 | …. | 7.11% | …. | 32.98% |
| Israel | …. | 3,460 | …. | 12 | …. | 89 | …. | 400 | …. | 0.35% | …. | 2.57% |
| Denmark | …. | 2,201 | …. | 65 | …. | 1 | …. | 380 | …. | 2.95% | …. | 0.05% |
| USA | …. | 106,258 | …. | 1,751 | …. | 2,538 | …. | 321 | …. | 1.65% | …. | 2.39% |
Pogo uses his numbers to paint a worse possible scenario. Kinda like, if you haven't recovered, you're going to die scenario.
They need to make things seem worse than they really are or else they become depressed.
I realize that for conservatives, denial is not just a river in Egypt, but here are some other hard facts: Italy is indeed the model you're following, with a few key exceptions:
1. Italy has far more hospital beds and capacity, per capita, than the USA. Italy has 3.14 beds per 1000 people. The USA has 2.77 beds per 1000 people. That means that Italy was capable of treating a larger percentage of the sickest patients.
2. Except of course, the Italian hospital staff had insufficient PPE and they started getting sick and dying. I have a dear friend who is an emergency room nurse in New York City. One of the staff in her hospital has died of the disease. A day or two ago, staff were told that even if they test positive, they should continue treating patients until their symptoms start to show. That isn't because they're not infectious, that's because there is no one else to replace them. In Boston, more than 150 EMT have tested positive. Over 2000 New York policemen have called in sick.
The whole point of the self-isolation and shutting everything down is to stop people from spreading a highly contageous virus. There are no cases in my county and yet I'm staying home and self-isolating because, if everyone does that, the virus has nowhere to go.
Edited to correct spelling mistakes that regrettably changed the content: the USA 2.77 bed per 1000, not 100, and I change "country" to "county", because I'm well aware that we've have cases in the country, just not in my county, which is just one small corner of it.
Them Italians don't **** around.
