- Mar 11, 2015
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America has not reached great yet. And what greatness you claim was done by implementation of racist laws and policies favoring whites. It is documented, It is true and whites excluded others from the process.Thats not trueWhites have everything they have because of government help. So you need to be quiet.Then there is the blacks are losers racism that denies 243 years of white racial preference which is the rhetoric asians like poli chic uses even as her Asian ass is in college based on Affirmative Action.Because the majority of whites here do try telling us black folks how to think and what to think. And we blacks can't have the opinions we have based upon our ability to think and discern, unless we see things as these racists right wing pieces of crap see then. If we do not, then we are on some kind of plantation being controlled by white liberals. And then the blacks who validate racist beliefs who keep us from moving forward and championed at every turn. If we oppose them, we are wrong, even as whites can be liberal and conservative, disagree and that's OK. But all backs must only see America the way most whites here tell us.I don't think you are a racist, but I do think you are not very knowledgeable about how blacks feel about this matter and instead of listening and accepting what we say, you want to explain it to us as whites see it and that seems to come with the attitude that we don't have the right to feel as we do.Wrong. But you and a whole lot of other whites here seem to think that you can speak for blacks. I happen to be black and I think I know much better than you how blacks feel about seeing a confederate uniform and what we think about blacks who wear that uniform. You don't have any pride if you are black and today decide to play a confederate soldier in a re enactment. I am not the only black thinking that way and if you took your white ass out of this forum and found a majority black forum you might learn how blacks actually think instead of what whites think we need to think.You didn't choose the rational answer because it is not rational to try using a picture of a black man wearing a confederate uniform to claim that blacks don't oppose the confederacy. A black person with pride would not put on a fucking confederate uniform. Whites like you need to learn that. The confederate flag means only one thing, white supremacy. The Nazi flag has not changed meaning, and whites like you would hear no excuses made for flying it. We would see no justification of flying the Nazi flag as a symbol of German heritage, but the confederate flag gets all kinds of excuses by whites. If that black man was wearing a black panther outfit and flying a black panther flag you would not be defending him.
If that black man was wearing a black panther outfit and flying a black panther flag you would not be defending him.
Really? who told you that? You assume too much about what I think. Black people have every right to be proud of the stance that was taken.
Secondly I'm not using the picture to claim anything because I'm not the one who posted it. Your problem is you think all black people need to think like you do in order to have pride in themselves. I basically said you really cant judge too much by this picture. And I'm also saying just because a black guy wears a damn piece of cloth you don't like, doesn't mean he's a step n fetch it person. Did you hear the man's opinion? did he tell it to you? I dont think so.
It's just a photograph, story unknown.
Like I previously said in post 235, It's something I cannot answer. I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt though for being a descent human being until proven otherwise. I think were done here. i cant communicate with you with out being a racist white.
Ok well, you want me to listen and accept what you say. Ok, well I understand you think I'm discounting the feelings of black Americans and you think, that i think... somehow I know better than all of them.
That was not even the original point I was trying to make or would attempt to make. Of course I can understand how the vast percentage of black Americans wouldn't be caught dead in a confederate uniform and standing next to that flag.
My main point was, there is more to that fellow that we do not know, than we do know. its a photograph... but we dont know the how or the why, before passing personal judgement. Right then, like you maybe 95 % of black Americans might say the guy was a sellout or had a gun to his head.
But if i wanted to explore another direction of thought.. why does that mean I'm immediately passing judgement on what all black people think? I never said that.... and actually I did come the conclusion after responding to Asclepias that this is a better conversation between African Americans who have different ideas. Though I would like to see that conversation. People have a lot of different ways of thinking and I am curious about that. Some people are realists... some people are idealists, and others maybe something else, some people developed their outlook from their parents or acedemia, and others from the hard experiences of life. Some people are more pessimistic and others optimistic... its very easy to not understand each other, when their minds are wired differently... it doesnt necessarily make a person bad but when people see the entire world in a different way.... its not hard to fill our head with what we believe the other person is thinking. I am guilty of doing that myself and wrong many times... even in th ereal world outside of USMB
So many times though, here the expression of anything different is just taken as a slap and here sometimes things are so politically and emotionally charged that so much is seen as passing a judgement, or a complete mandate on an entire group, and honestly, i guess that could be understandable considering all the things that get said around here.
As far a Political Chick... you previously called her some kind of an (explitive) racist, trying to be white and all that.
I really dont think so. I think she believes America is mostly a good place and wants it to be. Around here though, people dont like to back down much and usually take a hard stand in these discussions . People are probably a lot more considerate in real life away from the keyboard.
Then there is the blacks are losers racism that denies 243 years of white racial preference which is the rhetoric asians like poli chic uses even as her Asian ass is in college based on Affirmative Action. The excuse is always about slavery. So it seems that whites must learn how things went after slavery until today and understand that white racism has always existed here, that it exists today and we need to get rid of it instead of whites clinging to false equivalences every time it's pointed out. One black person calling a white person a name is not equal to 243 years of beatings, killings or laws and policies designed to deny us of our rights. And whites here need to understand that is where we are coming from.
We did not come here on the mother fucking mayflower. We did not agree to become indentured servants for 7 years upon payment of our passage from Europe. And all this diversion about blacks selling each other denies the fact that whites had slaves in Europe but did not use them or send them here to be slaves. We did not immigrate here and enter through Ellis island. So when we talk about our experiences here it will not be what whites have experienced, it won't be pleasant for whites to hear, but it is American history.
So while whites want to claim the confederacy is part of our history, they want to deny our experience as part of American history and that just cannot be done. While whites can make up grievances to be angry about, blacks are called names here for expressing legitimate grievances. While whites here complain about a government made expressly for them, we get called whiners and victims because we legitimately complain about how we keep getting left out.
Here we have a section on race and racism with over 1,000 threads. Most of these threads are by whites denigrating blacks. Threads have been made by whites with opinions on us in every realm of our lives. They have even denigrated us about our hair and what we eat. But then if we come back with legitimate historical based facts, we have to read whites whining about how we should not be making things about race, Whites, poli chic and dont taz me bro. That's why I say she is racist and wants to be white. Because that's what she does.
Last we know the mother fucking history of the republican and democratic parties. We know why we left the republican party and we know why we are not republicans now. Any black person denying white supremacy is not an independent thinker. Any black person supporting a party that cannot vote for a correction to the decision made in Shelby v. Holder is a fool, a sellout and a uncle tom. Because that black person is supporting a party that does not want us to have the constitutional right to vote. Now it's time whites understood what we see, not what you think we see.
I hope you can understand where I come from better now yarddog and I appreciate your reasonable response to my post.
when black people act like losers that how they will be treated
America is great because of individual initiative with limited government intervention
but even if you think governmement deserves all the credit whites have been responsible for the government up until very recently