Teacher in Ireland arrested and put in prison for not using woke pronouns

[AMart]

Actually it is grammar, not science.

No it isn't. There is man and woman, or boy and girl, or male and female. That's it, there is no 3rd gender. Pretending to be something else doesn't make it true.

 

[AMart]

Doesn't really matter as he was arrested for violating a court order and not for using the wrong pronoun.



And again that was his choice

Doesn't the school principal set school policy?

And the underlying court order is absurd.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's a FAD; not even Grammar.

Greg

Does not really matter, it is the school policy and they have every right to make it so.

I never really understood all the hair pulling over this.

The spouse of a co-worker has decided they are "non-binary" and wish to use they/them. The co-worker told us about it and out of respect for her I use those when speaking of her spouse.

I do not understand what it even means to be "non-binary", but since it has no impact on my life and does not cause me any harm to abide by their wishes, why be a dick to my co-worker?

 

[Blues Man]

No it isn't. There is man and woman, or boy and girl, or male and female. That's it, there is no 3rd gender. Pretending to be something else doesn't make it true.

And the whole issue is easily avoided by simply calling students by their first or last names.

 

[Blues Man]

And the underlying court order is absurd.

It was a legit no trespass order.

Take it up with the courts in Ireland

 

[Papageorgio]

It's the root cause of why he was jailed.

He was jailed because he violated a court order prohibiting him to be on the school grounds.

Should he have been suspended, not in my opinion, should he have defied a court order? Not in my opinion.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No it isn't. There is man and woman, or boy and girl, or male and female. That's it, there is no 3rd gender. Pretending to be something else doesn't make it true.

There has always been a third gender in literature.

Did none of you graduate high school?

 

[martybegan]

Well, that is because there are far too many big government authoritarians like you around.

Saying a company can't fire someone for their political views outside work isn't authoritarian.

 

[martybegan]

Once again he didn't have to call any student anything but their names and doing that would not have violated school policy but he wanted to make a point and it got him fired.

Anyway this whole pronoun thing is stupid because no one usually refers to a person by any pronoun (other than you) if that person is present. At least I don't.

Yet un-stupid enough to be a suspend-able offense in the views of the work school admins.

 

[gtopa1]

Doesn't really matter as he was arrested for violating a court order and not for using the wrong pronoun.



And again that was his choice

Doesn't the school principal set school policy?

Of course it matters. If the Judge looks at the Proximate Cause and finds that the School perjured itself in getting the first injunction then there will be all hell to pay. I hope he has a good silk. It should be happening now quite frankly.

Greg

 

[Blues Man]

Yet un-stupid enough to be a suspend-able offense in the views of the work school admins.

That's life, sweetheart.

 

[martybegan]

No I really think the whole pronoun thing is stupid. BUT if it was school policy and he violated that policy then it's the teachers own fault.

We do know that he violated a court ordered no trespass and THAT is the reason he was arrested as he should have been

Hosing down protesters in the south was civil policy, guess you defend that as well.

 

[Blues Man]

Of course it matters. If the Judge looks at the Proximate Cause and finds that the School perjured itself in getting the first injunction then there will be all hell to pay. I hope he has a good silk. It should be happening now quite frankly.

Greg

The teacher should have taken it up via appropriate channels. What he should not have done was violate a court order.

 

[martybegan]

He was jailed because he violated a court order prohibiting him to be on the school grounds.

Should he have been suspended, not in my opinion, should he have defied a court order? Not in my opinion.

And Rosa should have just sat in the back of the bus.

 

[Blues Man]

Hosing down protesters in the south was civil policy, guess you defend that as well.

Analogy FAIL

 

[martybegan]

That's life, sweetheart.

When "so what" is your only defense, you ain't got one.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Saying a company can't fire someone for their political views outside work isn't authoritarian.

Personally I think a company should be able to fire anyone for any reason.

 

[Blues Man]

And Rosa should have just sat in the back of the bus.

Analogy FAIL

 

[martybegan]

Analogy FAIL

Hits too hard to reply, eh?

Defending the rules blankly is the path to oppression.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Analogy FAIL

He does not seem to understand there is a difference between the Govt and private businesses.