Tariffs on China raised from 34% to 54% to now 104%

I agree with you but to quote Obama 'Elections have consequences...'

Harris might have been a bad candidate but they gave Trump a pass on a lot of things...

The same voters that picked Trump twice are still there, listening and watching the same media...

The rest of the world just can't trust US. They have failed so many times that Trump is only the symptom.

US has to have a look at itself and ask themselves, is voting nut jobs like Trump & Co really in their interest?
He wants to wreak things and he has a devoted media and cabal of people to cheer him on...
It seems US has lost its way... Is this rock bottom? Well we said that so many times before we would be foolish to believe that... He has his hand picked Supreme Court very close to saying that ICE (his police force) can pick up anyone and send them to a prison without informing anyone... Think about that, he can disappear people...

If you were stopped in your car on the way home alone. They can handcuff you, accuse you of anything and send you to a El Salvador prison and tell no one... Your family will know nothing... No clue if you ever get back or they just keep accusing you of anything, there is no due process...

They can say it about anyone... Remeber this guy is Mexican so don't let the colour of your skin protect you.
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We are not at rock bottom, the sub is still going down...
Absolutely. The 2016 elections taught me, loud and clear, that America isn't what I thought it was. 2024 was just more confirmation.

We deserve what we get. And now we have to get it without allies.
 
Congress needs to take Baby Donald's tariff rattle away before it's too late.
I think the only way that is happening is if some jump the aisle...

Musk pulling the threat of financing primary challengers could convince some to take the chance...

We are talking about 4 Congress out of 220... Unlikely but possible if Musk and Murdoch find Trump's tariff too much damage..

Musk is a major looser in a China v US trade war...

Murdoch doesn't like the trade war either..
 
Absolutely. The 2016 elections taught me, loud and clear, that America isn't what I thought it was. 2024 was just more confirmation.

We deserve what we get. And now we have to get it without allies.
The ROW has been patient...

They saw Bush Jr. and they said 'everyone makes a mistake....

They saw Trump (1st) and they said 'everyone makes a mistake....'. We witnessed the COVID response and felt for America as making a mistake should not have caused over 500k needless deaths through mismanagement...

We felt the pain (like everyone) of Trump's ill fated Oil supply cut that drove Global Inflation...

But then we say US re-elect Trump... Then everyone said that there is something deeply wrong in US. IT's Media market has created havoc where there are people living in different countries beside each other...
 
I think the only way that is happening is if some jump the aisle...

Musk pulling the threat of financing primary challengers could convince some to take the chance...

We are talking about 4 Congress out of 220... Unlikely but possible if Musk and Murdoch find Trump's tariff too much damage..

Musk is a major looser in a China v US trade war...

Murdoch doesn't like the trade war either..
Well, the Trumpsters appear to think that this is all worth it, and that we'll see a tangible, material difference in the US economy when these tariff problems are negotiated away. AND, that losing all these close working relationships we've had with our former friends will be a big plus.

Looking forward to seeing how that happens.
 
China will simply not open its markets to American goods. They could charge a 200% tariff on American trade. It would amount to so little we wouldn't notice. Musk has all Teslas sold in China, made in China. He won't even notice.
 
China will simply not open its markets to American goods. They could charge a 200% tariff on American trade. It would amount to so little we wouldn't notice. Musk has all Teslas sold in China, made in China. He won't even notice.
China is the 3rd highest (4th if you count EU as one country) importer of US goods in the world....
 
Trump has started a trade war with China that could turn into a real war. China is not going to sit still and with the being allies with Russia and having power, this could turn ugly soon.

The least problem but nonetheless a big problem for all of us, is that we will now be unable to buy anything as everything is going to be way to expensive. As of now, things have gone up already and now they are going to go through the roof

White House says 104% tariff on China will take effect Wednesday

If war is about to start, pack your suitcase.
 
Trump has started a trade war with China that could turn into a real war. China is not going to sit still and with the being allies with Russia and having power, this could turn ugly soon.

The least problem but nonetheless a big problem for all of us, is that we will now be unable to buy anything as everything is going to be way to expensive. As of now, things have gone up already and now they are going to go through the roof

White House says 104% tariff on China will take effect Wednesday

Here comes the DemCons to defend and aid the CCP.
 
Trump has started a trade war with China that could turn into a real war. China is not going to sit still and with the being allies with Russia and having power, this could turn ugly soon.

The least problem but nonetheless a big problem for all of us, is that we will now be unable to buy anything as everything is going to be way to expensive. As of now, things have gone up already and now they are going to go through the roof

White House says 104% tariff on China will take effect Wednesday

I agree that in the immediate future there will be shortages and higher prices since so much stuff comes from china

But that is the very reason trump is correct to break the circle of dependence on china

It will be painful at first

However quite liberating in the long run
 
I agree that in the immediate future there will be shortages and higher prices since so much stuff comes from china

But that is the very reason trump is correct to break the circle of dependence on china

It will be painful at first

However quite liberating in the long run
You can never regain anyone's confidence and that is going to hurt us for decades
 
You can never regain anyone's confidence and that is going to hurt us for decades
You are just talking past me instead of acknowledging the need to break our dependence on china

Or rejecting it if you happen to like living in a vassal state of china
 
You are just talking past me instead of acknowledging the need to break our dependence on china

Or rejecting it if you happen to like living in a vassal state of china
You do not seem to understand that we all depend on each other and if you break that dependence, you have NOTHING.

It is like a marriage. It is never totally fair/even for everyone (someone always gives more than the other) but if you are together, it gives more benefits to all, than being divorced and alone
 
You do not seem to understand that we all depend on each other and if you break that dependence, you have NOTHING.

It is like a marriage. It is never totally fair/even for everyone (someone always gives more than the other) but if you are together, it gives more benefits to all, than being divorced and alone
China does not want a modern wife who is an equal partner with the husband

China wants a concubine that is totally subservient to the man
 
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